We the deplorable

[Lee Chowaniec]

Hey buffalopundit:

Sorry to hear you say that we were not having a good exchange.

I am glad you straightened me out on Obama regarding: "Socialist direction he was taking the country in", means nothing and isn't remotely true. How could I ever have gotten that opinion, or in fact the 31 states in the country that voted him into office; near 2/3rds of the country, quite overwhelming and could be consider a landslide as much of the media is saying?

As an independent, nay, blank registered voter I really am amused watching your ilk get bent out of shape by the words of an unpredictable/irreverent Trump who has walked back much of what he has said and promised and who has yet to take office.

I am not a victim of anything, just trying to point out why your party lost and that at present they seem to have learned nothing about veritable tolerance and inclusiveness for all Americans.

[mark blazejewski]

Thanks for the reply.

As far as Nevada is concerned, people don't have a problem standing in casino lines. In other areas, people don't have a problem spending holiday in a parking lot or sidewalk, spending the overnight in sleeping bags, just to position themselves favorably for a sale the next day. That sounds like a straw man.

This country existed for more than two centuries. During that time people had to travel unpaved dirt paths to the polling places, and communications were limited to dispatch riders, snail mail, and the telegraph. There was never an outcry with those handicaps, yet, in the 21st Century, with our comforts and advantages, there is such an uproar. It seems that the early voting program is a made-for-fraud gimmick, IMHO. There is simply no reason why voting has to take place, as in some places, a month before election day.

I may be open for two, perhaps even three, days of consecutive, uninterrupted voting to pacify the dissatisfied, but that is far as I would go. BTW, forget home computer voting.

Oh yea, one other point: where did I EVER say that I "want to limit peoples(') voting rights?" I am talking about maintaining long-recognized, LEGITIMATE voting standards. You are talking about flexible, ever-changing standards based on perceived ease. Thank God this is no longer the day of the Jim Crow, poll taxes, and other horrible practices. Let's not address evil with a recipe for fraud.

[HipKat]

As of 12/2:

Hillary Clinton: 65,250,299 (48.1% of total vote)
Donald Trump: 62,686,023 (46.2% of total vote)

Oh, yeah, well THAT'S a landslide fo sho!

[gorja]

[mark blazejewski]

Incredible Gorja; it says it so well.

[Save Us]

Hey buffalopundit:

Sorry to hear you say that we were not having a good exchange.

I am glad you straightened me out on Obama regarding: "Socialist direction he was taking the country in", means nothing and isn't remotely true. How could I ever have gotten that opinion, or in fact the 31 states in the country that voted him into office; near 2/3rds of the country, quite overwhelming and could be consider a landslide as much of the media is saying?

As an independent, nay, blank registered voter I really am amused watching your ilk get bent out of shape by the words of an unpredictable/irreverent Trump who has walked back much of what he has said and promised and who has yet to take office.

I am not a victim of anything, just trying to point out why your party lost and that at present they seem to have learned nothing about veritable tolerance and inclusiveness for all Americans.

The Democratic party failed their constituency miserably even with with almost 10 Trillion in money printing....
Their glorious leader had her mouth piece Podesta tell everyone to go home toward the end,, and where was she... To me this says a lot.

People would do well to read Alex de tocqueville's musings on democracy in America, as well as Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,, then maybe lefties would finally get the picture.

[gorja]

Incredible Gorja; it says it so well.

I thought the same thing. I had never heard of Dana Kamide before but he summed it up quite well

[HipKat]

The Democratic party failed their constituency miserably even with with almost 10 Trillion in money printing....
Their glorious leader had her mouth piece Podesta tell everyone to go home toward the end,, and where was she... To me this says a lot.

People would do well to read Alex de tocqueville's musings on democracy in America, as well as Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,, then maybe lefties would finally get the picture.

Lefties get the picture. That's why so many of us voted for Trump.

Who doesn't get the picture is the Democrat leadership and the left wing media.

I was listening to MSNBC on Sirius today driving to my first job and they were keying on 2 topics; Trump's call with Taiwan and the Carrier deal in Indiana.

1, Taiwan - their beef is that by talking to Taiwan, Trump is upsetting China who considers Taiwan a rouge state. I guess China has submitted a formal complaint to God only knows who. I'm thinking, why the hell do we care about what China thinks? Why should we worry about if China is happy with us having a relationship with Taiwan - while China maintains one with N. Korea? It's asinine. But to the Left Wing media, we're supposed to pacify China??? Puh-LEEZE

2, Carrier. The complaint is that Carrier receives a 7 million dollar tax break. Well companies get tax breaks all over the country, all the time. To come in, to set up shop, to build, etc. You know what they DIDN'T mention?? Over a 1000 Americans get to keep their jobs, maintain an income that allows them to spend money back into the economy. Now if that equals 7,000,000 dollars or not, I don't know. Over time, yeah, it probably does.

THIS is why the Dems are lost. They STILL keep themselves absorbed on things the bulk of this country doesn't care about. 1% of the income, special interest groups, pouting over a lost election.....

Until they get figured out that the rest of us feel like the Democrats turned their backs on us, they're never going to get anywhere

[4248]

Our government has been spending billions - if not trillions of our tax dollars over seas. Most of it goes to improve other people standards of living and such - everything from bike paths to coal powered geneators and even Marriot Hotels. None of which ever benefit America.

Now Mr.Trump did give them a plane load of cash money - he reduced future tax owed.

The Party players in that state don't like it because it will force them to spend less. They will not get what they would have in the future if nothing changed - but something did change. They were losing workers and eventualy tax revenue - they were losing the revenue the employees would spend.

The bottom line is every IDA does the same thing - why is it any different when Mr.Trump does it ?

If our Town Council and our IDA did it - no Party Player would be saying anything negative. They'd be bragging about creating and saving jobs and OH what a Good Politician I am

[mark blazejewski]

Lefties get the picture. That's why so many of us voted for Trump.

Who doesn't get the picture is the Democrat leadership and the left wing media.

I was listening to MSNBC on Sirius today driving to my first job and they were keying on 2 topics; Trump's call with Taiwan and the Carrier deal in Indiana.

1, Taiwan - their beef is that by talking to Taiwan, Trump is upsetting China who considers Taiwan a rouge state. I guess China has submitted a formal complaint to God only knows who. I'm thinking, why the hell do we care about what China thinks? Why should we worry about if China is happy with us having a relationship with Taiwan - while China maintains one with N. Korea? It's asinine. But to the Left Wing media, we're supposed to pacify China??? Puh-LEEZE

2, Carrier. The complaint is that Carrier receives a 7 million dollar tax break. Well companies get tax breaks all over the country, all the time. To come in, to set up shop, to build, etc. You know what they DIDN'T mention?? Over a 1000 Americans get to keep their jobs, maintain an income that allows them to spend money back into the economy. Now if that equals 7,000,000 dollars or not, I don't know. Over time, yeah, it probably does.

THIS is why the Dems are lost. They STILL keep themselves absorbed on things the bulk of this country doesn't care about. 1% of the income, special interest groups, pouting over a lost election.....

Until they get figured out that the rest of us feel like the Democrats turned their backs on us, they're never going to get anywhere

By carping on the Taiwan "issue," they only set themselves up for criticism on their outreach to Iran.

Their criticism of Carrier only makes the hardworking Democrats, like many present and past members of my family, realize just how far away from the party of Harry Truman, John Kennedy, and Hubert Humphrey this current Democratic party is. Its policies and focus left a void.

Many "establishment" Republicans did not fill it. Clinton et al didn't. TRUMP DID.

Very nice post.

[Lee Chowaniec]

Irony

True irony was on display in one of the Snoozes Saturday editorials.

http://buffalonews.com/2016/12/02/ed...-skew-opinion/

The editorial claims that social media was drowning in fake news during this presidential election, often aimed at undermining Hillary Clinton.

Second, adopt the journalist’s code and insist upon corroboration. If your mother says she loves you, get a second source.

That’s the difference between real and fake news. Real news is reported by professionals with a commitment to accuracy and objectivity. It is checked and edited. Time and money are put into the serious work of providing information that is factual and valuable. It’s meant to inform, not to manipulate.*

This is coming from a local newspaper that 90% of the time publishes its national political election news from the New York Times and Washington Post – national outlets in the tank for Clinton and posting the most ridiculous speculative news on Trump’s administration without him having taken office yet.

BTW -Today’s first section was all Times and Washington Post publications.

* OMG, they are actually referring to the professional media.

[HipKat]

Very nice post.

Thank you, and now Jill Stein proves my point....

Green Party campaign drops statewide recount effort in Pa.

and then

Jill Stein Campaign Plans To Take Pennsylvania Recount Effort To Federal Court

[sharky]

I laugh at all the "fake news" claims. As opposed to the "real" news that we know the DNC had editorial control of at times? Or local stories that get basic facts completely wrong and never issue a correction?
Didn't NPR report that they found the creator of some of the fake news from the election cycle and it turned out to be created be a democrat?

[Lee Chowaniec]

Had one listened to 60 Minutes Scott Pelley’s interview of House Speaker Ryan today he or she would have clearly seen a smug, arrogant, media type attack interview meant to demean the winning party; while at the same time presupposing what the Trump agenda is like when in fact it has been less than four weeks since the election victory and near the same length of time until he takes office.

Unlike Clinton’s interview, no softball questions here.

As for the Stein debacle, it is what it is, stupid; a waste of time and money on a project going nowhere.

[buffalopundit]

Hey buffalopundit:

Sorry to hear you say that we were not having a good exchange.

It wasn't. If I wanted slogans and catchphrases regurgitated at me, I'd have waded into the Breitbart cesspool.

I am glad you straightened me out on Obama regarding: "Socialist direction he was taking the country in", means nothing and isn't remotely true. How could I ever have gotten that opinion, or in fact the 31 states in the country that voted him into office; near 2/3rds of the country, quite overwhelming and could be consider a landslide as much of the media is saying?

I don't understand what that paragraph purports to assert.

As an independent, nay, blank registered voter I really am amused watching your ilk get bent out of shape by the words of an unpredictable/irreverent Trump who has walked back much of what he has said and promised and who has yet to take office.

Then why bother being blank? Why not join the Republican party, now that it no longer pretends that it's conservative?

I am not a victim of anything, just trying to point out why your party lost and that at present they seem to have learned nothing about veritable tolerance and inclusiveness for all Americans.

Your ironic self-identification as "deplorable" says otherwise.