We the deplorable

[Lee Chowaniec]

Lee stated, "Hillary should be pardoned" = Pardoned for what ? Why ?

Good one, 4248, especially since she has not been indicted, tried and convicted of any crime.

However, she is gone and should be forgotten and to end this kind of detraction, that costs the taxpayers millions of dollars, let’s put that time and money to better use. It’s time to move on.

[mark blazejewski]

A President can pardon in anticipation of indictment and/or conviction. Under Article Two, Section Two, of the Constitution, the President's power of pardon is broad ranging and absolute. Richard Nixon was never indicted, and never went through the political sanctions of impeachment and removal from office, yet President Ford granted a pardon "..for all offensives against the United States that" Nixon " has committed, or may have committed, or taken part in during the period of January 20, 1969-August 9, 1973." That pardon was all-encompassing, and was issued in anticipation of indictment. Nixon's acceptance of the pardon is generally viewed as an admission of guilt by Nixon.

I think that the national interest would be well served if Secretary Clinton is pardoned for any possible crimes that she may have committed in connection with the email scandal and the issues involving the Clinton Foundation. I would hope that, whether the pardon comes from President Obama or President Trump, further clemency is extended to all others involved in the "crimes." THEN MOVE ON!

[shortstuff]

Mark I enjoy reading your posts.

[gorja]

A President can pardon in anticipation of indictment and/or conviction. Under Article Two, Section Two, of the Constitution, the President's power of pardon is broad ranging and absolute. Richard Nixon was never indicted, and never went through the political sanctions of impeachment and removal from office, yet President Ford granted a pardon "..for all offensives against the United States that" Nixon " has committed, or may have committed, or taken part in during the period of January 20, 1969-August 9, 1973." That pardon was all-encompassing, and was issued in anticipation of indictment. Nixon's acceptance of the pardon is generally viewed as an admission of guilt by Nixon.

I think that the national interest would be well served if Secretary Clinton is pardoned for any possible crimes that she may have committed in connection with the email scandal and the issues involving the Clinton Foundation. I would hope that, whether the pardon comes from President Obama or President Trump, further clemency is extended to all others involved in the "crimes." THEN MOVE ON!

Mark, I have to disagree. I'm not one that believes that it's right to forgive her for being so cavalier with classified info

Wouldn't you really want to watch them put the screws to her? Then MOVE ON. Love ya Mark

[mark blazejewski]

Georgia, I'm being magnanimous. It is easier to be that way when you win.

My only sincere fear is that with her on trial, they'll blame Trump, special prosecutor and grand jury notwithstanding, and and accuse Trump of throwing his opposition in jail like a banana republic; A DISTORTION OF COURSE, but that is the left. It will well serve the creeps through the mid-terms and beyond.

In my heart, do I agree with you? HELL YES!!! [/B]

[AlphaMAle]

Lee,

I can't understand why the backers of this Anti-Trump rioting are not in jail. George Soros and the DNC are behind this and are obstructing the process of government. Why aren't the new powers to be delivering a message, Stop or Jail. January 20th they should be rounded up and shipped to a country that wants them, no one will. Interfering in our governmental actions is against the law. The other important issue is to dump Paul Ryan and his wife.

[Jeff]

Lee,

I can't understand why the backers of this Anti-Trump rioting are not in jail. George Soros and the DNC are behind this and are obstructing the process of government. Why aren't the new powers to be delivering a message, Stop or Jail. January 20th they should be rounded up and shipped to a country that wants them, no one will. Interfering in our governmental actions is against the law. The other important issue is to dump Paul Ryan and his wife.

Deplorable

[Lee Chowaniec]

Throughout her 30 year career in politics Hillary has been involved in more scandals, pay-to-play corruption activities, and has been recognized as a pathological liar, and yet the president, justice system and liberal base will accept her transgressions and cover for her.

Trump won because he was the only Republican candidate that would stoop to her level in opposition while putting out a message that resonated with the disenfranchised, forgotten middle class workers.

He is already softening the rhetoric he used to get elected and hopefully will act to unite this polarized country not being vindictive in victory and adding to the divisiveness.
Hillary will be pardoned; that’s a given. What purpose would be served to jail her? It would only energize the left and the ‘less educated but better informed’ right already knows what a piece of **** she is. She and Billy ‘the big Banger’ are toast.

I received this from a liberal friend of mine today. It exemplifies the convoluted thinking of the political correct, all inclusive, tolerant left:

After the chaos surrounding the 2000 election, it is inevitable that there will be electoral crises again. If you don't think so, consider the following:

• if Donald Trump had been leading in all the major 2016 pre-election polls (as Hillary Clinton was)
• if Donald Trump had won the popular vote by 1.5-2 percent (as Hillary Clinton did)
• but Donald Trump lost the Electoral College and the presidency (as Hillary Clinton did)
• How much chaos do you think there would be in the country right now?

How much chaos was there when Obama was elected in 2008 and 2012? Were there street protesters, rioting, individual harm and property damage? Who is marching in the streets now? Who is rioting? Where is Obama’s voice on this; Hillary’s?

Hillary is busy finding someone other than herself to blame for her loss. Comy is her target for now. Gee, it just couldn’t be those baskets of irredeemable deplorables, could it?

Hillary lost, but the media, academia and Hollywood will continue to bash Trump and raise Hillary to sainthood status. Hopefully Trump will act in the best interests of America; Americans First!

[300miles]

Why does Trump and his cult followers have such a victim mentality?
Trump was making excuses for his loss even before the election because it was supposedly "rigged".
Now that he won, they all find some other conspiracy to blame everything on.
Is this really how the next 4 years is going to play out? Trump folks finding conspiracy in every failure ?

[Lee Chowaniec]

Why does Trump and his cult followers have such a victim mentality?
Trump was making excuses for his loss even before the election because it was supposedly "rigged".
Now that he won, they all find some other conspiracy to blame everything on.
Is this really how the next 4 years is going to play out? Trump folks finding conspiracy in every failure ?

What conspiracy(s) are you referring to and in regard to what blame?

I am only hearing Hillary complain on the Comy fiasco and those irredeemable deplorables.

[300miles]

What conspiracy(s) are you referring to and in regard to what blame?

I am only hearing Hillary complain on the Comy fiasco and those irredeemable deplorables.

examples

I can't understand why the backers of this Anti-Trump rioting are not in jail. George Soros and the DNC are behind this and are obstructing the process of government. Why aren't the new powers to be delivering a message, Stop or Jail. January 20th they should be rounded up and shipped to a country that wants them, no one will. Interfering in our governmental actions is against the law. The other important issue is to dump Paul Ryan and his wife.

The media has finally exposed itself for what it is. A propaganda machine for the Left and their socialistic agenda that destroys freedoms rights and liberties.
Trump exposed this every day of his campaign. ... It came out that the there is indeed a shadow govt with in the US Govt. where is the media outcry? The media doesnt care

[mark blazejewski]

Cult followers? Over 60,000,000 people in 30 states. That is not a cult following, that is a consensus. And please, no crap about the popular vote. Bill Clinton NEVER got 50% of the vote in either 1992 or in 1996, and these so-called "cult followers" accepted him without violence.

Moreover, if the media was not in the tank for Clinton, explain the New York Times on November 13, when it pledged to "rededicate" itself "to honesty." Sounds pretty exculpatory of Trump and his "cult followers" regarding media "conspiracy" statements.

Although your remarks were not aimed at me, I am offended at being labeled a "cult follower." I merely said that Secretary Clinton, and the nation, should be allowed to move on without a prolonged divisive legal cloud. Perhaps you are correct. There must be something in the Kool Aid I drank to compel me to reach that conclusion.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

Why does Trump and his cult followers have such a victim mentality?
Trump was making excuses for his loss even before the election because it was supposedly "rigged".
Now that he won, they all find some other conspiracy to blame everything on.
Is this really how the next 4 years is going to play out? Trump folks finding conspiracy in every failure ?

Salty.

[Lee Chowaniec]

Why does Trump and his cult followers have such a victim mentality?
Trump was making excuses for his loss even before the election because it was supposedly "rigged".
Now that he won, they all find some other conspiracy to blame everything on.
Is this really how the next 4 years is going to play out? Trump folks finding conspiracy in every failure ?

I am assuming that when you speak of cult followers you are referring to individuals who obsess on someone to the point of their acting irrationally. And yes, there those on both sides; a fringe that is capable of the heinous hate crimes now taking place. Unfortunately, that kind of crap will continue for four years and will be exacerbated by a left leaning media, academia and Hollywood celebrity buffoons.

This election was decided by middle class voters who were left out of the Obama administration policies and were additionally derided for daring to openly say anything in opposition. For a party that advocated for tolerance and inclusiveness they stifled free speech and openness by immediately labeling such people as hateful, racist, politically incorrect and where even Hillary labeled the electorate in the most disgustful way; Hillary, the most corrupt, lying, mistrustful, scandal filled individual to run for the presidency. And, Obama can be faulted for supporting and while campaigning for her dared to declare she was the most qualified/capable for following his Hope & Change administration – a failed one at that in the eyes of the 60 million that voted against her.

Well, the working class public had enough of Obama and Hillary and where the only way they were included in the administration was with their pocket books.
You should know by now that politics is indeed a blood-sport where anything is apt to be said by a candidate to get elected. With Trump the DEMS were handed a dose of their own fear and smear politics.

The tribe has spoken and what was said is most likely will not take place. Trump is already backtracking on much of his campaign rhetoric. He has yet to serve a day in office yet the almighty pundits and media seem know how he will govern and will give him no chance to succeed. The New York Times has declared it will now dedicate itself to reporting the news honestly. What BS!

The 60 million who voted for Trump felt disenfranchised, ostracized and diminished by its own government and the so-called elitists. As stakeholders in this country all they want is fairness; a government that acts in their best interests to protect their personal safety from domestic and foreign threats and to have policies in place that use American resources that favor Americans first.

[Lee Chowaniec]

A different perspective on president-elect Trumps's victory

http://truthfeed.com/crushing-hillar...numbers/35444/