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    Quote Originally Posted by abc123 View Post
    was your tv broken last week, lee?
    Meh...he was probably watching the WWE. OH BTW Lee, Hillary was not disbarred.




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    Pretty sure Bob is correct. She wasn't disbarred but her License lapsed. It's irrelevant though. We are not hiring her to be a lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Pretty sure Bob is correct. She wasn't disbarred but her License lapsed. It's irrelevant though. We are not hiring her to be a lawyer.
    It's relevant for Lee. Fact checking only takes a moment.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    It's relevant for Lee. Fact checking only takes a moment.




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    Did that b.b. and found you are correct. My bad in reading and believing everything that is written today.

    Was she removed from the Judiciary Committee as I have also read and if so, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc123 View Post
    was your tv broken last week, lee?
    Indeed not. I heard the same lies and false promises as you did. There is enough BS on both sides to make us all pissed off. That’s today’s politics.

    While the Donald was not my first choice on the REP ticket, he is the nominee and the face of the party. I will honestly say that for the DEM Party (and I have voted for several DEMS running for the presidential office in the past) I would not consider voting this year for a socialist candidate or one who panders to the socialist candidate to get his support; and who will pander to any group under the guise that their best interest is her best interest.

    The National DEM Party has devolved into a so-called “inclusive” party whose mantra is now love conquers all and it can solve problems. They no longer espouse my values and virtues and in their attempt to stifle my opinion and free speech they label people like me a racist, politically incorrect and a “hater.”

    The love story presented by Bill last night was touching and will appeal to those who to quote Bill “Didn’t know the real Hillary.” Unfortunately, the story came from a lying philanderer who denied “having sex with that woman” and failed to even mention once that their marriage had a dark period. Unfortunately for her some of us are old enough to have followed the life of the “real” Hillary. This great ‘change maker’ should have changed husbands.

    So far, the big elephants in the room have not been addressed by the DEMS; and in specific terms:

    POTUS speaks tonight and will say how great the economy has become. Hillary says, “Needs work.”

    POTUS will say he is leaving Hillary a great legacy and he trusts she is qualified to carry it forward; and she has said she would. But Bill said last night that she is a “great game changer.” Hmmm?

    ISIS has not been addressed – yet. While they worry about what bathroom to use global terror seems to be on the backburner.

    Cops are being killed in the street (called for by the Black Lives Matter movement) and they honored the mothers of victims who were killed by police in the line of duty. How is Hillary going to square that Thursday night?

    68% of the public polled say they don’t trust Hillary. 58% of the public polled say the country is headed in the wrong direction. POTUS says everything is great. Hillary says she will continue Obama’s legacy. The DEMS favor open borders costing this country billions in assistance; bringing in Syrians and others in a move of compassion while telling us there is but a small percentage that want to kill us. I should not worry?

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    c'mon lee, there isn't even a veiled attempt to be even handed there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc123 View Post
    c'mon lee, there isn't even a veiled attempt to be even handed there.
    Not anymore and that should have been clear to you from paragraphs 2 & 3.

    You trust Hillary, feel ISIS is a JV team, think we are headed in the right direction, want open borders, bring in refugees whose culture is different than ours and won't assimilate, pull that lever come November for Hillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc123 View Post
    c'mon lee, there isn't even a veiled attempt to be even handed there.
    People in NY should be especially reticent to vote for Hilliary. She promised NY 200,000 jobs to get elected to be a NY senator.....where are those jobs? How stupid are we?
    How can anyone in this state get past that? I can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Was she removed from the Judiciary Committee as I have also read and if so, why?
    It appears she was, but finding the truth of it seems to be the challenge. Ziefman is said to have NOT been her supervisor in one passage, hence the differences in the how and whys of her legal brief. Yet Ziefman is on the record (in a book anyway) as saying he fired her. Then he claims she stole documents, which turns out to not be true. They were in the possession of others.

    It reminds me of the meme on the "stolen" china, which it turns out, was never stolen and the gifts were properly audited by the GSA, which has authority over White House gifts. Someone with a computer and a meme generator (you don't even need photoshop anymore) creates these things and throws them into the wild. Where the uninformed among us lap them up like thirsty animals.

    I'm curious though. What would you do about ISIS which is not being done now? We have a robust bombing program. We have special operations forces on the ground there. Lots of intel stuff going on in the background. The biggest gripe is no one will empower them further by saying Radical Islamic Terrorism, like that is some magic potion to stop them from their acts. After all, they say that in Europe and you see how much that has worked. ISIS is defeated, its caliphate shrinking. What is squeezing through our grasp will be a challenge for some time, because one guy with a gun can still do a lot of damage. And we have plenty of guns.

    What is Lee's plan for ISIS???

    (Res, start a new thread if you want.)





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    BILL CLINTON'S LOVING WIFE --- by DICK MORRIS former political advisor to President Bill Clinton
    If you happen to see the Bill Clinton five minute TV ad for Hillary in which he introduces the commercial by saying he wants to share some things we may not know about Hillary's background, beware as I was there for most of their presidency and know them better than just about anyone. I offer a few corrections:
    Bill says: "In law school Hillary worked on legal services for the poor."
    Facts are: Hillary's main extra-curricular activity in 'Law School' was helping the Black Panthers, on trial in Connecticut for torturing and killing a 'Federal Agent.' She went to Court every day as part of a Law student monitoring committee trying to spot civil rights violations and develop grounds for appeal.
    Bill says: "Hillary spent a year after graduation working on a Children's rights project for poor kids."
    Facts are: Hillary interned with Bob Truehaft, the head of the California Communist Party. She met Bob when he represented the Panthers and traveled all the way to San Francisco to take an internship with him.
    Bill says: "Hillary could have written her own job ticket, but she turned down all the lucrative job offers."
    Facts are: She flunked the D.C. bar exam, 'Yes', flunked it, it is a matter of record, and only passed the Arkansas bar. She had no job offers in Arkansas, 'None', and only got hired by the University of Arkansas Law School at Fayetteville because Bill was already teaching there. She did not join the prestigious Rose Law Firm until Bill became Arkansas Attorney General and was made a partner only after he was elected Arkansas Governor.
    Bill says: "President Carter appointed Hillary to the Legal Services Board of Directors and she became its Chairman."
    Facts are: The appointment was in exchange for Bill's support for Carter in his 1980 primary against Ted Kennedy. Hillary then became chairman in a coup in which she won a majority away from Carter's choice to be chairman.
    Bill says: "She served on the board of the Arkansas Children's Hospital."
    Facts are: Yes she did. But her main board activity, not mentioned by Bill, was to sit on the Wal-Mart Board of Directors, for a substantial fee. She was silent about their labor and health care practices.
    Bill says: "Hillary didn't succeed at getting health care for all Americans in 1994 but she kept working at it and helped to create the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) that provides five million children with health insurance."
    Facts are: Hillary had nothing to do with creating CHIP. It was included in the budget deal between Clinton and Republican Majority Leader Senator Trent Lott. I know; I helped to negotiate the deal. The money came half from the budget deal and half from the Attorney Generals' tobacco settlement. Hillary had nothing to do with either source of funds.
    Bill says: "Hillary was the face of America all over the World." (LOL)
    Facts are: Her visits were part of a program to get her out of town so that Bill would not appear weak by feeding stories that Hillary was running the White House. Her visits abroad were entirely touristic and symbolic and there was no substantive diplomacy on any of them.
    Bill says: "Hillary was an excellent Senator who kept fighting for Children's and Women's issues."
    Facts are: Other than totally meaningless legislation like changing the names on courthouses and post offices, she has passed only four substantive pieces of legislation. One set up a national park in Puerto Rico. A second provided respite care for family members helping their relatives through Alzheimer's or other conditions. And two were routine bills to aid 911 victims and responders which were sponsored by the entire N.Y. delegation. Presently she is trying to have the US memorialize Woodstock.
    Here is what bothers me more than anything else about Hillary Clinton. She has done everything possible to weaken the President and our Country (that's you and me) when it comes to the 'War on Terror'.
    1. She wants to close GITMO and move the combatants to the USA where they would have access to our legal system.
    2. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of suspected Al Qaeda phone calls to/from the USA.
    3. She wants to grant constitutional rights to enemy combatants captured on the battlefield.
    4. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of money transfers between suspected Al Qaeda cells and supporters in the USA.
    5. She wants to eliminate the type of interrogation tactics used by the Military & CIA where coercion might be used when questioning known terrorists even though such tactics might save American lives.
    One cannot think of a single 'Bill', Hillary has introduced or a single comment she has made that would tend to strengthen our Country in the 'War on Terror'. But, one can think of a lot of comments she has made that weaken our Country and makes it a more dangerous situation for all of us. Bottom line: She goes hand in hand with the ACLU on far too many issues where common sense is abandoned.
    Share this with everyone you know, ask them to prove Dick Morris wrong. Think about it - he's (Dick Morris) said all of this openly, thus if he were not truthful he'd be liable for 'Defamation of Character' !
    And you better believe Hillary would sue him.
    Her winning in 2016 means the final death knell for America! Her whole public life has been a LIE.
    By Dick Morris, former political advisor to President Bill Clinton
    THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE UNAWARE OF THESE FACTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Sojka View Post
    BILL CLINTON'S LOVING WIFE --- by DICK MORRIS former political advisor to President Bill Clinton
    If you happen to see the Bill Clinton five minute TV ad for Hillary in which he introduces the commercial by saying he wants to share some things we may not know about Hillary's background, beware as I was there for most of their presidency and know them better than just about anyone. I offer a few corrections:
    Bill says: "In law school Hillary worked on legal services for the poor."
    Facts are: Hillary's main extra-curricular activity in 'Law School' was helping the Black Panthers, on trial in Connecticut for torturing and killing a 'Federal Agent.' She went to Court every day as part of a Law student monitoring committee trying to spot civil rights violations and develop grounds for appeal.
    Bill says: "Hillary spent a year after graduation working on a Children's rights project for poor kids."
    Facts are: Hillary interned with Bob Truehaft, the head of the California Communist Party. She met Bob when he represented the Panthers and traveled all the way to San Francisco to take an internship with him.
    Bill says: "Hillary could have written her own job ticket, but she turned down all the lucrative job offers."
    Facts are: She flunked the D.C. bar exam, 'Yes', flunked it, it is a matter of record, and only passed the Arkansas bar. She had no job offers in Arkansas, 'None', and only got hired by the University of Arkansas Law School at Fayetteville because Bill was already teaching there. She did not join the prestigious Rose Law Firm until Bill became Arkansas Attorney General and was made a partner only after he was elected Arkansas Governor.
    Bill says: "President Carter appointed Hillary to the Legal Services Board of Directors and she became its Chairman."
    Facts are: The appointment was in exchange for Bill's support for Carter in his 1980 primary against Ted Kennedy. Hillary then became chairman in a coup in which she won a majority away from Carter's choice to be chairman.
    Bill says: "She served on the board of the Arkansas Children's Hospital."
    Facts are: Yes she did. But her main board activity, not mentioned by Bill, was to sit on the Wal-Mart Board of Directors, for a substantial fee. She was silent about their labor and health care practices.
    Bill says: "Hillary didn't succeed at getting health care for all Americans in 1994 but she kept working at it and helped to create the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) that provides five million children with health insurance."
    Facts are: Hillary had nothing to do with creating CHIP. It was included in the budget deal between Clinton and Republican Majority Leader Senator Trent Lott. I know; I helped to negotiate the deal. The money came half from the budget deal and half from the Attorney Generals' tobacco settlement. Hillary had nothing to do with either source of funds.
    Bill says: "Hillary was the face of America all over the World." (LOL)
    Facts are: Her visits were part of a program to get her out of town so that Bill would not appear weak by feeding stories that Hillary was running the White House. Her visits abroad were entirely touristic and symbolic and there was no substantive diplomacy on any of them.
    Bill says: "Hillary was an excellent Senator who kept fighting for Children's and Women's issues."
    Facts are: Other than totally meaningless legislation like changing the names on courthouses and post offices, she has passed only four substantive pieces of legislation. One set up a national park in Puerto Rico. A second provided respite care for family members helping their relatives through Alzheimer's or other conditions. And two were routine bills to aid 911 victims and responders which were sponsored by the entire N.Y. delegation. Presently she is trying to have the US memorialize Woodstock.
    Here is what bothers me more than anything else about Hillary Clinton. She has done everything possible to weaken the President and our Country (that's you and me) when it comes to the 'War on Terror'.
    1. She wants to close GITMO and move the combatants to the USA where they would have access to our legal system.
    2. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of suspected Al Qaeda phone calls to/from the USA.
    3. She wants to grant constitutional rights to enemy combatants captured on the battlefield.
    4. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of money transfers between suspected Al Qaeda cells and supporters in the USA.
    5. She wants to eliminate the type of interrogation tactics used by the Military & CIA where coercion might be used when questioning known terrorists even though such tactics might save American lives.
    One cannot think of a single 'Bill', Hillary has introduced or a single comment she has made that would tend to strengthen our Country in the 'War on Terror'. But, one can think of a lot of comments she has made that weaken our Country and makes it a more dangerous situation for all of us. Bottom line: She goes hand in hand with the ACLU on far too many issues where common sense is abandoned.
    Share this with everyone you know, ask them to prove Dick Morris wrong. Think about it - he's (Dick Morris) said all of this openly, thus if he were not truthful he'd be liable for 'Defamation of Character' !
    And you better believe Hillary would sue him.
    Her winning in 2016 means the final death knell for America! Her whole public life has been a LIE.
    By Dick Morris, former political advisor to President Bill Clinton
    THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE UNAWARE OF THESE FACTS.
    I am shocked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    It appears she was, but finding the truth of it seems to be the challenge. Ziefman is said to have NOT been her supervisor in one passage, hence the differences in the how and whys of her legal brief. Yet Ziefman is on the record (in a book anyway) as saying he fired her. Then he claims she stole documents, which turns out to not be true. They were in the possession of others.

    It reminds me of the meme on the "stolen" china, which it turns out, was never stolen and the gifts were properly audited by the GSA, which has authority over White House gifts. Someone with a computer and a meme generator (you don't even need photoshop anymore) creates these things and throws them into the wild. Where the uninformed among us lap them up like thirsty animals.

    I'm curious though. What would you do about ISIS which is not being done now? We have a robust bombing program. We have special operations forces on the ground there. Lots of intel stuff going on in the background. The biggest gripe is no one will empower them further by saying Radical Islamic Terrorism, like that is some magic potion to stop them from their acts. After all, they say that in Europe and you see how much that has worked. ISIS is defeated, its caliphate shrinking. What is squeezing through our grasp will be a challenge for some time, because one guy with a gun can still do a lot of damage. And we have plenty of guns.

    What is Lee's plan for ISIS???

    (Res, start a new thread if you want.)

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    First of all, it is not up to private citizens to develop war plans. That is what the JCS, ONI, DIA, and NSA are for.

    Next, as Hillary would say, “What difference does it make?” You think anyone really cares what I think or would suggest on the matter?

    However, I will tell you this, the successful strategy now being deployed should have been used in the early stages of ISIS’ growth but instead POTUS couldn’t (and still can’t) properly identify the enemy as Radical Islamic terrorists, instead calling them JV team; and as his open strategy dictates to lead from behind. His strategy and action delay has led to ISIS developing global roots and the murdering of innocent lives – none of which was mentioned at the DEM convention this week.

    As far s ‘robust’ bombing program: The "robust" air campaign is a sham. Compare the total air sorties flown against ISIS camps, command and control, supporting facilities, and infrastructure during the last three years, with the sorties, total, and proportional to, flown against Iraq and Kuwait during the short Desert Storm Operation.

    DESERT STORM: Average, 2,555 air strikes per day, every day for 43 days.

    ISIS: As of the start of 2016, 9,000 U.S. strikes against ISIS. That was after nearly two YEARS of air strikes. Therefore, the total air strikes flown against ISIS during the 2014-January 1, 2016 equaled the total number of airstrikes flown in the first four DAYS of Desert Storm. HARDLY ROBUST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    First of all, it is not up to private citizens to develop war plans. That is what the JCS, ONI, DIA, and NSA are for.

    Next, as Hillary would say, “What difference does it make?” You think anyone really cares what I think or would suggest on the matter?

    However, I will tell you this, the successful strategy now being deployed should have been used in the early stages of ISIS’ growth but instead POTUS couldn’t (and still can’t) properly identify the enemy as Radical Islamic terrorists, instead calling them JV team; and as his open strategy dictates to lead from behind. His strategy and action delay has led to ISIS developing global roots and the murdering of innocent lives – none of which was mentioned at the DEM convention this week.

    As far s ‘robust’ bombing program: The "robust" air campaign is a sham. Compare the total air sorties flown against ISIS camps, command and control, supporting facilities, and infrastructure during the last three years, with the sorties, total, and proportional to, flown against Iraq and Kuwait during the short Desert Storm Operation.

    DESERT STORM: Average, 2,555 air strikes per day, every day for 43 days.

    ISIS: As of the start of 2016, 9,000 U.S. strikes against ISIS. That was after nearly two YEARS of air strikes. Therefore, the total air strikes flown against ISIS during the 2014-January 1, 2016 equaled the total number of airstrikes flown in the first four DAYS of Desert Storm. HARDLY ROBUST.
    Ok, so you don't know. You can be critical of a process in which you have no experience and no proposals.


    Got it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    Ok, so you don't know. You can be critical of a process in which you have no experience and no proposals.

    Got it.

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    Of course you can be critical of a process that over a lengthy period of time results are lacking and especially when innocent lives are being lost in the process. Aren't you critical of your municipal board? Have you ever held a municipal board position?

    Inadequate air support, using drones that kill innocents, and a DNC that called for open borders, and spoke and sang on love conquering all hate, and the bringing in of refugees with the belief that but only a few radicals make come in and plan to kill us; America first, really? No mention was made of the three terror events that took place during the convention period. While people are terror scared, where 70% of the population thinks the country is headed in the wrong direction, POTUS tells us we have never been saver.

    It is true, I have no proposals. Why should I? That is why we elect and pay our leaders. Is Barrack Obama so inept that he needs my advice? Then again, the memorial services I watch is testimony to a strategy not working.

    But I have no proposal because the one I would suggest has already been proposed by General Keene. He postulated that in the fight against ISIS the effort necessary to completely eradication them requires a substantial commitment of ground troops to supplement the indigenous fighters. He sir does have the experience, as do Lt. General Thomas McInerney who echoes him.

    If that experience does not impress you, let me suggest four former Secretaries of Defense, including Robert Gates and Leon Panetta,, who both served Obama, and with James Woolsey, Bill Clinton's CIA director, who ALL support that same general escalation theory.

    Now I understand you not accepting a proposal from me, but to refute them, you had better have four stars or better.

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    Of course this whole crises could have been averted.. by following the no foreign entanglements doctrine.

    If you could kill home grown radical religious ideology with thousands of enemy combatants in your country then you could get rid of Islamic terrorism. Unfortunately that ship has sailed and this is our way of life now plain and simple. No bombing, no boots on the ground, no negotiating, this is a permanent situation. This is what happens when you force your ideology, listen to corporations, and depose of stable government (dictatorial) systems. Human nature shows us two outcomes when you mix immiscible ideologically opposed populations..

    You get cohesion either forced or believed by a unifying myth,, or you get break down such as Yugoslavia and now Iraq and libya and ensuing chaos worse then when you had secular order....


    This is the stupidity of our government....
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