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    What's happening in Europe

    The European Union is on the verge of breaking up - the main issue? Immigration/migration


    Brexit Polls show UK majority will vote to Leave European Union
    http://www.economist.com/blogs/graph...-eu-referendum

    David Cameron fears Scotland will leave next - would that be "Sexit"?
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...k-after-brexit

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/668...European-Union

    EU FALLING APART: Now HOLLAND wants its own "Hexit" referendum to follow historic Brexit vote


    NINE out of 10 Dutch people hope the Netherlands will hold its own EU referendum amid mass discontent at Brussels bureaucrats.


    THE DUTCH people have tonight delivered a devastating blow to the whole European Union project and handed a huge boost to Brexit campaigners by sinking a Brussels plot to expand further into Eastern Europe.


    The stunning result was tonight welcomed by Brexit campaigners who said it was a stunning condemnation of the EU's expansionist dreams.

    Leave.EU spokesman Brian Monteith said: "The Dutch result is a stunning condemnation of the European Union's willingness to extend its borders, put international relationships at risk and offer visa free travel to another 44 million people from a war-torn country.


    "This humiliating rejection of the Ukraine agreement demonstrates that people don't have to support the EU and its expansionist agenda to feel European. Nobody could accuse the Dutch of not being good Europeans but they have no willingness to open their borders to more migrants and pick up the tab for Ukraine's problems just like most UK voters.


    "This result gives the British people the signal that it is moderate and normal to reject the EU and stand up for what's in our country's best interests. The sun is now setting on the European Union."
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...s-Ukraine-deal


    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...s-Brexit-Nexit
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    Quote Originally Posted by buffy View Post
    The European Union is on the verge of breaking up - the main issue? Immigration/migration
    That is not the main issue from everything that I have read. That is one of the main results of the main issue. That being that people in EU nations feel as if they are being ruled by unaccountable faceless bureaucrats in Brussels. People in the England are unhappy with their ability to have a say in issues. One of those issues is immigration.

    Many are also saying that the EU has evolved to something unrecognizable to when they voted to join. Read somewhere that the last 20 issues the UK voted 'NO' on still passed in the EU. That is a pretty tough pill to swallow.


    Personally the way France and Germany are acting is a clear sign to me they know they are ***** if the UK leaves. They sound like the abusive spouse who says you don't know how good you have it while smacking them in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffy View Post
    The European Union is on the verge of breaking up - the main issue? Immigration/migration
    Nope. Immigration is just one issue among dozens of issues. Even if the UK leaves the EU, it will not drastically change whether migrant will go there or not. The UK has been debating their own membership ever since they were a member. The debate escalated when the Euro crisis hit after the 2008 recession and triggered debt bailouts of Greece and other countries. Sovereignty and wanting more self-control in general is where the debate is.

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    I agree somewhat with what your saying 300 but there is little doubt in my mind that the refugee crisis is the catalyst that brought it all to a head.

    The Euro press isn't like the American press they have reported extensively on the bad behavior of some refugees in Europe

    Drawing only from German media reports, the list documents more than 160 instances of rape and sexual assault committed by migrants in train stations, swimming pools and other public places against victims as young as seven.
    http://www.news.com.au/finance/econo...d65045e65e141d

    German Girls Must Cover Arms and Legs to Appease Syrian “Refugees”
    http://www.thelocal.de/20150626/refu...niform-modesty

    The Paris attacks, the Brussels attack, the mass abuse in Cologne, etc. These are in the news regularly in European countries. In the US the press would be scared to be called racist if they reported on it as they should.Keep in mind that most euro countries are smaller then one of our states. Its not an academic thing with them its very real and very close to home. The Brussels attack where terrorist snuck in with refugees was a two day news even in the USA.. (Pinging black boxes and Korean ferry boat captains went on for weeks here, LOL)

    Terrorists 'planning Paris-style attack' in Germany were posing as asylum-seekers and living in refugee shelters
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...any-were-posi/

    Almost daily there is a reported incident of bad behavior by a refugee in the Euro press. its not racism to not want them there its just the way humans are wired, If we are in my home and my kid acts bad I give him a time out, if your kid acts bad I send him home.
    People who wonder if the glass is half empty or full miss the point. The glass is refillable.

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    I cannot fathom what possessed Merkel to allow 1 million muslims into Germany. It is pure insanity. Europe has a few problems right now but their quality of life issues will trump everything else. Socialism does not work and Europe will find that out. That and migration are their biggest problems.

    People would be wise to educate themselves on what Islam really is. Just remember much of the Middle east was Christian before Islam. That should tell you something. Things will compress even more if the global economy slows. Most of the industrialized world is so over extended with debt it's not funny. When the money printing stops or is overdone, and interest rates rise you'll see some interesting things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    I cannot fathom what possessed Merkel to allow 1 million muslims into Germany. It is pure insanity..
    Like the US...guilt.

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    In Germany's case maybe guilt, maybe international perception: wanting to be seen as the New America, Land of Hope welcoming new immigrants and vanquishing their bad WW2 legacy for good. Maybe it was a quick way to boost their population which is stagnating and aging... throw in some domestic politics for good measure and maybe some personal legacy building. I think a lot of factors are in play here. But regardless, her decision was a big mistake. They could have still accepted some refugees while still limiting the tide of people. They should really have just stuck to followed their own rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    In Germany's case maybe guilt, maybe international perception: wanting to be seen as the New America, Land of Hope welcoming new immigrants and vanquishing their bad WW2 legacy for good. Maybe it was a quick way to boost their population which is stagnating and aging... throw in some domestic politics for good measure and maybe some personal legacy building. I think a lot of factors are in play here. But regardless, her decision was a big mistake. They could have still accepted some refugees while still limiting the tide of people. They should really have just stuck to followed their own rules.
    They are screwed. A few people can hold an entire city hostage, disrupt a power grid, interrupt air and trucking transportation. It's nice Merkel cared so much about her own people to have foisted that horde on her citizens that look to her for leadership, protection etc. .. disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    In Germany's case maybe guilt, maybe international perception: wanting to be seen as the New America, Land of Hope welcoming new immigrants and vanquishing their bad WW2 legacy for good. Maybe it was a quick way to boost their population which is stagnating and aging... throw in some domestic politics for good measure and maybe some personal legacy building. I think a lot of factors are in play here. But regardless, her decision was a big mistake. They could have still accepted some refugees while still limiting the tide of people. They should really have just stuck to followed their own rules.
    Don't confuse with what you just stated with people illegally entering the USA.
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    Rules? The "law = rule" states it is illegal to cross the USA border and enter the country. Trump wants to follow the rules.

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    Excuse me - ONE of the main issues - ONE of them. Not THE main issue, but, one of the main issues. There.

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    Today's episode from France

    Waitress 'attacked for serving alcohol during Ramadan'

    A young Muslim bar tender was reportedly beaten up at a bar in the city of Nice, southern France because she served alcohol on the first day of Ramadan.

    "I was all alone in the bar when two passersby barged in," she told the Nouvel Obs newspaper.

    "They pointed their fingers at the bottles of alcohol that they saw behind the counter, then one of them said to me in Arabic 'You should be ashamed to be serving beer during Ramadan'

    One of the men then added: "If I was God, I would have you hanged."

    After some heated words between the trio, the men left, but one returned soon after to hit the woman in the face, knocking her to the ground. She was left with bruises on her face.

    The entire exchange was caught on CCTV cameras, reported the paper, which had seen the footage.

    http://www.thelocal.fr/20160608/musl...during-ramadan
    People who wonder if the glass is half empty or full miss the point. The glass is refillable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    Today's episode from France

    Waitress 'attacked for serving alcohol during Ramadan'

    A young Muslim bar tender was reportedly beaten up at a bar in the city of Nice, southern France because she served alcohol on the first day of Ramadan.

    "I was all alone in the bar when two passersby barged in," she told the Nouvel Obs newspaper.

    "They pointed their fingers at the bottles of alcohol that they saw behind the counter, then one of them said to me in Arabic 'You should be ashamed to be serving beer during Ramadan'

    One of the men then added: "If I was God, I would have you hanged."

    After some heated words between the trio, the men left, but one returned soon after to hit the woman in the face, knocking her to the ground. She was left with bruises on her face.

    The entire exchange was caught on CCTV cameras, reported the paper, which had seen the footage.

    http://www.thelocal.fr/20160608/musl...during-ramadan
    Disgusting

    Islam.........

    Where is the woman's movement when you need them? .....strangely silent.

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    Pool bans all refugees after sex attack in Austria
    June 24, 2016

    An Austrian swimming pool has temporarily banned all refugees after a 13-year-old girl was allegedly followed into a women’s changing room and sexually molested.

    According to the Heute newspaper, the girl and witnesses told police that the man had a dark complexion and was a foreigner.

    Following an emergency meeting after the incident, local authorities decided to post a sign in English at the swimming pool that read “today no entry for refugees”.

    “This decision was not taken lightly, but I take responsibility,” said local mayor Alfred Pohl, who described news of the incident as a “shock”.

    Pohl also confirmed that they are hiring two security guards to patrol the area.

    “The ban on asylum seekers from the swimming pool is temporary, until the security is in place,” he confirmed.

    Six year sentence for pool rape

    It also follows a separate incident at a pool in Vienna late last year, where an asylum seeker from Iraq raped a 10-year-old boy in toilet.

    Twenty-year-old Amir A., who is married with a child of his own - told police at the time that it had been a "sexual emergency" when he attacked the schoolboy.

    He pleaded guilty in court in Austria in April and was sentenced to six years this month for the serious sexual abuse of a minor and rape.

    http://www.thelocal.at/20160627/pool...ack-in-austria

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    Denmark

    Danish Minister to 'Sharia' troublemakers 'Get a job'

    Støjberg’s visit to Nørrebro included a meeting with the owner of Mucki Bar, one of a number of bars in the area said to have experienced threats and vandalism from local youths – some of whom have ostensibly claimed that the area falls under Sharia Law.

    Mucki Bar’s owner Birgitte Fischer told Jyllands-Posten that bricks had been thrown through the bar’s window during opening hours and that protection money had been demanded from her and her husband, who co-owns the bar.

    Heidi Dyrnesli, the owner of Café Heimdal in Nørrebro, said that intruders recently entered her bar and told guests to leave.

    “Recently some young men came in and shouted that all the guests should leave. They then shouted that the place belonged to them and that Nørrebro is covered by Sharia, so alcohol is forbidden,” Dyrnesli told Radio24syv.
    http://www.thelocal.dk/20160512/shar...r-get-job-nazi

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffy View Post
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    Danish Minister to 'Sharia' troublemakers 'Get a job'


    http://www.thelocal.dk/20160512/shar...r-get-job-nazi
    Most muslims adhere to shariah law. It is incompatible with a free society. Nuff said.

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