South Buffalo got screwed?? Proposed Fed Stimulus Money

[4248]

These are Federal Stimulus Moneys:
The federal government distributes stimulus money by making three kinds of awards: contracts, grants, and loans. Contracts are X. Grants are Y. Loans Z.


Southdown's Connector-Phase I ; $52,000,000.00 -Streets/Roads Program

Tifft Street connector-$35,000,000.00 - Streets/Roads Program

Seneca/Hopkins/ McKinley/S. Park Ave. improvements $4,000,000.00 Streets/Roads Program

South Park improvements, street-scape & paving Bailey Ave. to city line
$3,000,000.00 -Streets/Roads Program
Tifft Street bridge and street-scape $2,000,000.00 Streets/Roads Program

1260 South Park environmental clean up $15,000,000.00 CDBG Program

90 Hopkins environmental clean up $7,500,000.00 CDBG Program

Johnny B. Wiley Sports Complex roof & structural repairs $53,500.00 CDBG Program

Under Mayor Byron Browns watch!!!!!!!!!

[DomesticatedFeminist]

A big problem with south buffalo is people are moving out to suburbia.

[4248]

Your point is well taken - but thats the true shame. More and more are moving out - and many like myself are Employed in Buffalo. I owned five houses at one time - now only two in Buffalo and one where I live.

Jobs are the main issue - I believe. But, too many people are Dependant on tax funded careers as well. You have many families that are second and third generation Government Employees. The older ones would stay, then in the last twenty years or so, the new ones started sliding out.

Anyway, Personally I have two friends who are actively investing in South Buffalo. They buy homes, rehab them and rent them out. Neither has used anything but their own money and friends for labor when ever possible.

I have spent hundreds of full days laboring to help them. We gutted one house to the bare studs and completely rewired, re-plumbed and drywalled the entire two story house. No small task, it took two years.

We actually had neighbors come and help - free when ever they could. It was nice to see how others reacted. We'd sometimes show up to find sandwich's on the porch. After a while we actually left a key on the porch. Nothing was ever taken or damaged.

The worst thing that ever happened was some one or more people had a beer party there. The neighbors said they were so quite, they thought we were plastering or something. Not one nail was missing and the owner was more than glad to return the 30+ beer cans - he's the kind of guy that straightens nails to reuse them.

I believe south buffalo is a strong market, its just getting old. With the loss of waterfront employment, steel plants and such - it just needs help. Like every neighborhood in our city.

[bflo_resident1]

Under Mayor Byron Browns watch!!!!!!!!!

but you forget its 2009 stimulus funds vs. byron's brown 2010 budget that made sure south was $0 in projects for next year and if you're going to quote bits and peices, you should balls up post it all, stimulus for 2009 for many districts!

Projects in Buffalo, New York
Below are the "shovel-ready" projects for which this city submitted in the 2008 U.S. Conference of Mayors report. You can click on a project to read (and add to) its description. You can also discuss the project and vote on whether you believe it is critical or not.

The total cost of all the projects submitted by Buffalo is $718,150,696

Description City State Jobs Cost Program Type Vote Ratio
Cars on Main Street – 100 to 500 blocks Buffalo NY 4000 $100,000,000 Streets/Roads -343
Southdown's Connector-Phase I Buffalo NY 1560 $52,000,000 Streets/Roads 11
Tifft Street connector Buffalo NY 1050 $35,000,000 Streets/Roads -14
Rt 5; Rt 198 to Hertel Ave. - (Main St.) improvements Buffalo NY 675 $22,619,000 Streets/Roads 5
Bailey Avenue Bridge Replacement Buffalo NY 500 $16,000,000 Streets/Roads -5
Kenmore Ave.; Starin Ave - Rt 5 (Main Street) improvements Buffalo NY 300 $10,000,000 Streets/Roads -5
Cars on Main Street, 600 block Buffalo NY 300 $10,000,000 Streets/Roads -49
Babcock St./Norfolk Southern Bridge replacement Buffalo NY 212 $8,000,000 Streets/Roads 3
BNMC phase 3; Allen Street extension Buffalo NY 225 $7,504,000 Streets/Roads 2
City-wide street improvements: mill, overlay, and sidewalks Buffalo NY 180 $6,000,000 Streets/Roads 5
Buffalo Lakeside Commerce Park - Phase 4 Rd. Buffalo NY 150 $5,000,000 Streets/Roads -2
Various signal replacement; Ferry St. & Delavan Ave. Buffalo NY 150 $5,000,000 Streets/Roads -18
BNMC Phase II streetscape improvements Buffalo NY 120 $4,010,000 Streets/Roads -20
Seneca/Hopkins/ McKinley/S. Park Ave. improvements Buffalo NY 120 $4,000,000 Streets/Roads 6
Fillmore Ave. resurfacing and streetscape Buffalo NY 120 $4,000,000 Streets/Roads 0
W Ferry St/Black Rock Canal (bridge rehab) Buffalo NY 120 $3,999,000 Streets/Roads 3
Erie Canal Harbor streets - Phase II Buffalo NY 105 $3,598,000 Streets/Roads 8
South Park improvements, streetscape & paving Bailey Ave. to city line Buffalo NY 90 $3,000,000 Streets/Roads 2
BNMC, Phase - I Ellicott St. Streetscape improvement Buffalo NY 72 $2,400,000 Streets/Roads -16
Porter Ave. streetscape – Phase II Buffalo NY 72 $2,400,000 Streets/Roads -9
Main Street 700 block improvements Buffalo NY 64 $2,167,000 Streets/Roads -2
Fargo St. repair and streetscape Buffalo NY 60 $2,001,000 Streets/Roads -12
Michigan Ave. corridor improvements Buffalo NY 60 $2,001,000 Streets/Roads 16
City wide sidewalk replacement Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 Streets/Roads 12
Tifft Street bridge and streetscape improvements Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 Streets/Roads 7
Humboldt park streetscape Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 Streets/Roads 9
Niagara St. gateway project Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 Streets/Roads -5
Pearl Street conversion to two way traffic Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 Streets/Roads -11
Buffalo River greenway, multi-purpose trail Buffalo NY 45 $1,500,000 Streets/Roads -11
Larkin District streetscape and mill Buffalo NY 45 $1,500,000 Streets/Roads 7
Exchange Street improvements Buffalo NY 45 $1,494,000 Streets/Roads -3
Hopkins Street bridge replacement Buffalo NY 30 $1,000,000 Streets/Roads 10
Erie Canal horbor streets - Phase III Buffalo NY 28 $933,000 Streets/Roads 10
Porter Ave. streetscape – Phase I Buffalo NY 28 $850,000 Streets/Roads -11
North Buffalo; Grant St./Amherst St./Hertel Ave. improvements Buffalo NY 27 $820,000 Streets/Roads 2
Broadway corridor improvements Buffalo NY 21 $750,000 Streets/Roads 23
Citywide emergency bridge repairs Buffalo NY 21 $750,000 Streets/Roads 83
Intersection realignment, Franklin/ Linwood/ North Pearl Buffalo NY 21 $750,000 Streets/Roads 29
Hickory Woods infrastructure improvements Buffalo NY 19 $625,000 Streets/Roads -2
Middlesex Ave. reconstruction Buffalo NY 10 $230,496 Streets/Roads -46
Renovations at Buffalo Sewer Authority Buffalo NY 1600 $40,000,000 Water 10
Construction of a floatables control facility Buffalo NY 400 $15,000,000 Water -6
Modifications to sewer authority incinerator Buffalo NY 280 $7,500,000 Water 4
New High Service Pumps – installation of new high service pumps for operational performance and energy savings Buffalo NY 180 $7,000,000 Water 9
New System Storage Tank – Installation of a 5 million gallon storage tank to provide additional system redundancy and operational flexibility Buffalo NY 280 $7,000,000 Water 5
Storage and Pump Stations – Rehabilitation of existing storage tanks and pump stations Buffalo NY 150 $5,000,000 Water 8
Various Locations 4 – replacement of existing water mains at additional various locations in northern half of City to maintain adequate water supply for domestic use and fire protection Buffalo NY 150 $5,000,000 Water 13
Various Locations 5 – replacement of existing water mains at additional various locations in southern half of City to maintain adequate water supply for domestic use and fire protection Buffalo NY 160 $5,000,000 Water 9
Clinton Street, Lower Terrace to Jefferson Avenue – rehabilitation of 36-inch diameter principal water transmission main in City’s downtown business district to maintain water supply for domestic use and fire protection Buffalo NY 120 $4,000,000 Water 7
Filter Plant Solids Handling Facility – installation of equipment and appurtenances to allow solids thickening on site to improve operation Buffalo NY 120 $4,000,000 Water 3
Replacement of existing water mains at various locations in northern half of City to maintain adequate water supply for domestic use and fire protection Buffalo NY 120 $4,000,000 Water 10
Replacement of existing water mains at various locations in southern half of City to maintain adequate water supply for domestic use and fire protection Buffalo NY 120 $4,000,000 Water 7
New Low Service Pumps – rehabilitation of existing low service pumps including a new pump for operational performance and energy savings Buffalo NY 105 $3,500,000 Water 5
Seneca Street: Replacement of existing water mains at various locations in southeast quadrant of City with increase in pipe size to improve water supply Buffalo NY 100 $3,000,000 Water 8
Dechlorination / Sewer for Thickener Decant– installation of a new underground conduit and dechlorination facilities to allow decant from the thickener process to be discharge and not re-cycled in the treatment process Buffalo NY 75 $2,500,000 Water 8
Various Locations 3 – rehabilitation or replacement of existing “low flow” water mains at various locations throughout City to provide minimum field measured hydrant flow of 500 gallons per minute Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 Water 1
Disinfection System Rehabilitation – rehabilitation and process enhancement of existing disinfection equipment Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 Water 6
Michigan Avenue, Virginia Street to Best Street – rehabilitation of 36-inch diameter principal water transmission main in City’s hospital corridor to maintain water supply for domestic use and fire protection Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 Water 12
Sewer storm water separation system Buffalo NY 45 $1,500,000 Water 22
GIS Data Management – Conversion of all our paper records into GIS for operation efficiency Buffalo NY 30 $1,000,000 Water 8
Buffalo Park System: Rehab and repair of park infrastructure: Martin Luther King Jr. Park, LaSalle Park, Riverside Park, Shoshone Park, Roosevelt Park, Cazenovia park, Delaware Park, Schiller Park, Emerson Park, Sole Park and Willert Park Buffalo NY 1900 $49,203,000 CDBG 12
BNMC Multi-Modal Transportation Structure Buffalo NY 700 $25,000,000 CDBG -23
1260 South Park environmental clean up Buffalo NY 400 $15,000,000 CDBG 0
59 Memorial environmental clean up Buffalo NY 400 $15,000,000 CDBG 2
90 Hopkins environmental clean up Buffalo NY 225 $7,500,000 CDBG 1
City Hall: Replacement of defective central air conditioning units, Northern side windows replacement with double insulated units, new energy efficient accent lighting to exterior of building, replacement of defective bathroom fixtures with water savers, Buffalo NY 225 $7,500,000 CDBG 13
Buffalo historic building repair and redevelopment Buffalo NY 212 $7,100,000 CDBG 11
Darwin-Martin house project Buffalo NY 210 $7,000,000 CDBG -60
Buffalo Lakeside Commerce park environmental clean up Buffalo NY 210 $7,000,000 CDBG 5
Public Works Buildings: Updated energy efficient electrical and lighting, windows, to replace single pane glass with double insulated newer standard upgrades. Boilers that are non efficient would be important energy savers. Bathrooms fixture replacement Buffalo NY 205 $6,825,000 CDBG 0
Scajaquada Creek dredging and Delaware park improvements Buffalo NY 200 $6,600,000 CDBG 12
Village farms environmental clean up Buffalo NY 150 $5,000,000 CDBG 1
Various firehouses: Replacement of non energy efficient windows, insulated garage doors, new heating systems for units over 20 year of age. There are over 25 firehouses that this would address Buffalo NY 115 $3,300,000 CDBG 11
Erie Basin Marina improvements: docks and infrastructure Buffalo NY 90 $3,000,000 CDBG -4
Hickory Woods environmental clean up Buffalo NY 75 $2,500,000 CDBG -2
Community Centers: Approximately 10 centers need double insulated windows units, energy efficient heating systems, replacement of defective bathroom fixtures with water savers, structural repairs and electrical upgrades Buffalo NY 100 $2,117,930 CDBG 31
Beverly A. Gray Incubator project Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 CDBG 9
Broadway Market roof reconstruction and general building improvements Buffalo NY 60 $2,000,000 CDBG 35
Police Garage: Replacement of 40 year old boiler heating system, installation of new electrical system, present system is 40 years old. Replace all existing light fixtures over 20 years old. New double pane windows in mechanic area and other locations n Buffalo NY 58 $1,941,000 CDBG 6
African Cultural Center bldg. construction Buffalo NY 30 $1,000,000 CDBG -336
Fire Headquarters: Replacement of defective non efficient windows, replacement of window air conditioners with central units Buffalo NY 30 $875,000 CDBG 12
City wide Buffalo Public library repairs including: Crane Branch, Dudley Branch, East Clinton Branch, East Delavan Branch Buffalo NY 20 $767,000 CDBG 50
Buffalo & Erie County Historical Society electrical system upgrade Buffalo NY 20 $642,000 CDBG -3
Critical infrastructure/ key resource protection recommended by Buffalo UASI, NIPP, and Dept. of Homeland Security Buffalo NY 15 $321,000 CDBG -2
Center for Transportation Excellence Buffalo NY 10 $250,000 CDBG -24
664 Washington Street roof repair Buffalo NY 12 $250,000 CDBG -7
Moselle Clinic repairs and improvements Buffalo NY 10 $214,000 CDBG 3
District heat distribution system replacement Buffalo NY 15 $214,000 CDBG -3
Sycamore Village clean up, southeast corner Buffalo NY 10 $200,000 CDBG 4
Riverbend development plan Buffalo NY 5 $100,000 CDBG -6
Johnny B. Wiley Sports Complex roof & structural repairs Buffalo NY 5 $53,500 CDBG 21
Buffalo Green R&D incubator for renewable energy and site infrastructure upgrades: rail, roads and Buffalo River improvements Buffalo NY 500 $16,000,000 Energy 43
Buffalo geothermal Buffalo NY 330 $11,000,000 Energy 10
City wide Green Infrastructure: Greening on vacant lots and ground water retention, storm water collection, treatment and infiltration Buffalo NY 50 $1,500,000 Energy 23
Perc to wet clean technology & training center Buffalo NY 15 $300,000 Energy -15
Solar Panel Energy Savings job training & placement center Buffalo NY 10 $285,000 Energy 13
Housing repair and emergency demolition Buffalo NY 1800 $45,000,000 Housing 12
Buffalo Police & Fire radio system Buffalo NY 0 $2,140,000 Public Safety 18
Buffalo Fire Dept.: Fire apparatus Buffalo NY 0 $1,952,160 Public Safety 27
Buffalo Fire Dept.: Mobile data system Buffalo NY 0 $798,610 Public Safety 78
Buffalo Police: Gunshot detection locator enhancement Buffalo NY 0 $500,000 Public Safety -28
Camera surveillance monitoring room expansion Buffalo NY 0 $300,000 Public Safety -26
City street vehicles replacement – energy efficient vehicles Buffalo NY 0 $1,000,000 Transit -14

[bflo_resident1]

don't go picking and choosing what stimulus south buffalo got when the truth is many districts got the same if not more in 2009 and it doesn't compare to byron brown scratching south out of his 2010 city of buffalo budget. i see you have yet to comment about how we pay your salary and you thinks its fine to go online to complain about a group who finds it right to protest BYRON BROWN'S budget because south is $0 and ellicott is almost $3 MILLION in 2010.

[WNYresident]

don't go picking and choosing what stimulus south buffalo got when the truth is many districts got the same if not more in 2009 and it doesn't compare to byron brown scratching south out of his 2010 city of buffalo budget.

One part of the available budget correct? South buffalo still has other services and funds being spent in that district, correct?

[bflo_resident1]

One part of the available budget correct? South buffalo still has other services and funds being spent in that district, correct?

as does EVERY district in the budget. 8 0f 9 have funding for additional projects, ellicott almost $3 MILLION and south $0. most services are city-wide, police, fire. 4248 is playing politics hand and hand with byron brown. he'd **** a brick the day the mayor makes his department $0 while watching ellicott get almost $3 million for a swimming pool that will get more in 2010 then 2009's budget.

[DomesticatedFeminist]

as does EVERY district in the budget. 8 0f 9 have funding for additional projects, ellicott almost $3 MILLION and south $0. most services are city-wide, police, fire. 4248 is playing politics hand and hand with byron brown. he'd **** a brick the day the mayor makes his department $0 while watching ellicott get almost $3 million for a swimming pool that will get more in 2010 then 2009's budget.

Maybe because south buffalo over all is better taken care of to begin with, duh?

If it weren't for the olmstead conservatory I would say they need to spend money on caz park and the circles.

They need to put money into a few of the other parks in the area. Hilary, okell, and a few others are in desperate need of repair. I don't see any of the local grassroots organizations even attempting to do anything about the parks. Maybe that would be a good project for you instead of fighting a mayor that you can't do anything about now.

Or here is another project for you to put your energy into, figure out a way to turn some empty lots into gardens. Before the olmstead committee took over the circles were taken care of by people in the neighborhood. People in south buffalo are great at taking care of their area for the most part and do a better job without outside influence.

[FisherRd]

Maybe because south buffalo over all is better taken care of to begin with, duh?

So what you're saying is let's reward the people who don't take care of their crap, and punish those that do.

That sounds logical...

Maybe South Buffalo just doesn't have any Barber Shops that cater to the 'fro crowd...

[4248]

most services are city-wide, police, fire. 4248 is playing politics hand and hand with byron brown. he'd **** a brick the day the mayor makes his department $0 while watching ellicott get almost $3 million for a swimming pool that will get more in 2010 then 2009's budget.

First, like I said, you put him in, not me! He is the Mayor - I respect the man and the title - he wanted it - he earned it - live with it - He is.

Second this Mayor has been overly generous to "My Department" when it comes to supplies, trucks, pumpers and needed gear.

He could have spent about $12-13 Million more - if people manipulating Over Time weren't filling their retirement accounts with that money. People like you and some of the over time manipulating city employees.
(not all do it - and I know many who care enough to refuse it. - They are mocked by people like Unioncop and BFD Supervisors for not being, "Team Players")

Don't try to quiet me by pretending you know about my Politics or life. You don't give a rats behind about anyone but you and your needs - good for you. Try being honest - I want more for my family - so I worked two public sector jobs most of my life. I never had food stamps or inflated over time. I have been isolated and punished for speaking out.

I want nothing but what I work for and I want the least amount of Politics and Government as possible in my life.

Now go get your sign and cry for more tax dollars or support Mickey, what ever you'd like to pretend this is all about. Good Luck. Please try and consider the other 70% of the City that has done without!

[bflo_resident1]

I want nothing but what I work for and I want the least amount of Politics and Government as possible in my life.

yet you still had time to create this thread asking if south buffalo got screwed? i do respect your job but think about how you'd feel knowing the mayor put your department into his budget with $0 recommended. its how the people of south feel. you posted 8 items from a 2009 stimulus budget relating to south where i posted them all showing every district got money from the president. all of my posts have been about equality and the difference between ellicott's almost $3 million and south's $0. you asked me not to pretend i know you, so please not to pretend you know me, my interest is always the city of buffalo. the city, south just happens to be my neighborhood the mayor intentionally left out. i said before if it was delaware or any other district i'd support them the same as south.

[unioncop]

(not all do it - and I know many who care enough to refuse it. - They are mocked by people like Unioncop and BFD Supervisors for not being, "Team Players")

listen I dont care who or who doesnt take the OT but when it reaches me if I am not busy that day i will take it

[4248]

[quote=bflo_resident1;580245]yet you still had time to create this thread asking if south buffalo got screwed?
That title line was "sarcasm" I don't believe SB has ever gotten screwed by Buffalo's tax payers, City Jobs, City Spending or any other City/Tax Funded opportunity.



i do respect your job but think about how you'd feel knowing the mayor put your department into his budget with $0 recommended.
Again, the Mayors "Budget" didn't exclude funding for SB Services , the proposed "EXTRA Capitol Spending Budget" hasn't been voted on yet.

If the Mayor cut funding for "Extras" for the BFD, we'd have to wait for next budget cycle and apply again. Everyone still gets their basic shares - just no extras like flat screen TVs and ping pong tables or
$133,000.00 tax funded "Signature Fireman Sculptures"

When have you ever spent as much time and effort to lobby for the East Side of Buffalo?

Have you ever organized a "Protest/Rally" for more tax money for the East Side of Buffalo ?


its how the people of south feel. you posted 8 items from a 2009 stimulus budget relating to south where i posted them all showing every district got money from the president. all of my posts have been about equality and the difference between ellicott's almost $3 million and south's $0. you asked me not to pretend i know you, so please not to pretend you know me, my interest is always the city of buffalo. the city, south just happens to be my neighborhood the mayor intentionally left out. i said before if it was delaware or any other district i'd support them the same as south.

[bflo_resident1]

Everyone still gets their basic shares - just no extras like flat screen TVs and ping pong tables or
$133,000.00 tax funded "Signature Fireman Sculptures"

in the same budget of "extras" ellicott is written in for almost $3 MILLION, you were saying about flat screen TVs? ellicott $2.9 million, masten $2.3 million, south $0 the same budget.

[keyboard150]

I live in South Buffalo.

I also am a companion to the East Side and its revival.

I find it discriminatory, absolutely discriminatory that South Buffalo is the only district that received 0 in the budget.

Not excusable, whatsoever. It's Byron Brown acting like a baby because someone ran against him from South Buffalo.

Grow up.

It is never right to leave anyone out who pays taxes. And although I am a friend of the east side, I would argue that there is probably a hell of a lot more tax dollars coming out of south buffalo than there are the east side.
If I'm paying tax dollars, there damned well better be some of that money coming back to my neighborhood.

I'd like to see data on this.