The deadline approachs -

[4248]

If I have it correct - 11/16/2015 is the next Town Board Meeting !

Will there be a notice of retirement/resignation in the next Town Board agenda ?

Not sure of the legalities concerning "Public Notice" - but the question remains :

Will Town Clerk Johanna Coleman Metz retire as Town Clerk ?

[4248]

Will Town Clerk Johanna Coleman Metz retire as Town Clerk ?

There's no more ignoring the issue or hiding from the truth - she has to come clean whether she wants to or not ! She has to file her NYS Pension forms and make it legal.

They've hid it well for almost a year - nothing new for Town Hall though ! Our Town Clerk is real good at keeping the paper work in order - almost as good as she has been at hiding the facts at the same time !

The whole Town will now know how the "Double Dip Plan" works for elected and appointed Players !

Will the new Madam Supervisor Johanna Coleman Metz break the Town record for tax funded DOUBLE DIP ?

[Beans and Franks]

Will 4248 key board explode from over use? Will 4248 find a greater calling? Will 4248 see that bitterness is the root of his evilness? Stay tuned kids!!

Thanks for your new ideas on the subject, hope your brain is ok from over use. LOL. You really are contributing, Lancaster thanks you. I seemed to have read similar posts, hmmmmm, lets see who that could have been................oh, 4248 it was you. BORING!!!!!!! Enjoy your day, I hope you WILL continue to entertain us.

[shortstuff]

Will Town Clerk Johanna Coleman Metz retire as Town Clerk ?

There's no more ignoring the issue or hiding from the truth - she has to come clean whether she wants to or not ! She has to file her NYS Pension forms and make it legal.

They've hid it well for almost a year - nothing new for Town Hall though ! Our Town Clerk is real good at keeping the paper work in order - almost as good as she has been at hiding the facts at the same time !

The whole Town will now know how the "Double Dip Plan" works for elected and appointed Players !

Will the new Madam Supervisor Johanna Coleman Metz break the Town record for tax funded DOUBLE DIP ?

I think all she needs is a week's notice right 4248 before she retires?

You must have hit a nerve, I smell beans. LOL Just kidding

[4248]

Not sure as far as NYS is concerned - I think the usual is a 30 day filing or you can file and withdraw within the 30 days. There has to be a "Break" in employment - not sure of for how long !

The State could deny her request for a waiver - that would change the whole financial picture ! They should look at this as a scheme to defraud - she knew she was gonna run for higher Office - she knew by getting elected that lines her up to "Double Dip" - the State should be looking at that ! Its a "Planned event"

Tick ! Tock !
- the truth is coming
- voters and taxpayers have been played
- now Johanna and friends get Paid !
- Tick ! Tock !

Johanna, you can come out now !

Will Town Clerk Johanna Coleman Metz retire as Town Clerk ?

There's no more ignoring the issue or hiding from the truth - she has to come clean whether she wants to or not !
She has to file her NYS Pension forms and make it legal.

They've hid it well for almost a year - nothing new for Town Hall though !

Our Town Clerk is real good at keeping the paper work in order - almost as good as she has been at hiding the facts at the same time !

The whole Town will now know how the "Double Dip Plan" works for elected and appointed Players !

Will the new Madam Supervisor Johanna Coleman Metz break the Town record for tax funded DOUBLE DIP ?

[4248]

Heres the point - they just keep getting reelected and they just keep digging into our pockets !

Past history/facts about to be repeated because the Votes went their way !

Councilman Donna Stempniak knew, the Town Clerk and Town Board knew - yet she ran for reelection and wasn't honest with tax payers about her plan : check this link http://www.speakupwny.com/forums/sho...-Lancaster-PBA

Heres how it worked : The one-week resignation was necessary so Stempniak could transfer her town pension into her teaching pension, officials in the New York State Retirement System said.
The move increased the salary that Stempniak's teacher pension calculation was based on and resulted in her pension being based on the more generous Tier 2 pension system, rather than Tier 3, officials said.
Stempniak's pension is about $1,000.00 a month greater than it would have been without the town pension credits; however, she can no longer accrue pension credits even though she remains on the Lancaster Town Board.
Stempniak is currently eligible for a $67,044.00 annual pension, but she elected to collect less now, and defer a portion to the future. She continues to collect her $18,467.00 board pay.
Lancaster officials were supportive of Stempniak's pension maneuver, noting that they save about $1,600 annually by no longer paying into the retirement system for her.(they saved nothing - they helped her collect a enhanced life time pension and full tax funded Town Paycheck -

Now Town Clerk Johanna Coleman will be next - all the inside players knew it - she planned it and the Campaign Committee and her advisers helped her keep it quiet ! Isn't that like some kind of fraud perpetrated on the tax payers and voters ?

[4248]

So from 2008 until 2015 - Coucilmember Stempniak collected:
$67,000.00 a year tax free = $670,000.00
$18,450.00 a year T.C.Pay = $184,500.00
$854,500.00 (+/-)
Plus her contract benefits as a school teacher. Healthcare and such average $12,00.00 - so possibly another $120,000.00

Now lets look at:
Town Clerk/Madam Supervisor Johanna Coleman Metz serves just 4 years as Supervisor.

$67,000.00 x 4 = $268,000.00 tax free retirement checks.
$12,000.00 x 4 = $48,000.00 tax funded benefits
$51,000.00 x 4 = $204,000.00 Supervisor pay

That's $510,000.00 (+/-) just for a four year term !

Plus tax funded benefits as Supervisor and or any other stipends she can gather going forward ! We haven't even considered vacation buy outs and other perks !

How many more elected or appointed employees are gonna be eligible for these tax funded Golden Parachutes ?

How much more can we afford ?

[Wow in lanc]

Wow what a retirement package Donna has built for herself and family. Bree Um er Mr. Stepniak must love that. Snicker snicker

[4248]

Back when as Breezy stated "People shunned public service jobs" - was because in the 80's they earned far less - like a Council Member was paid $1700.00 a year and didnt get pensions or healthcare. Thats why it was known as "Public Service" - many people used to actually volunteer their time to help their Community !

So as stated before - they quietly passed local laws that entitled them to every thing the workers got and more. They made campaign fodder by saying, "Look what we are giving our employees" - "we will insure our employees get good benefits" - "Look what we are doing for you" - OH what grand standing tax funded glad handers they have been - all for the Community - for the kids !

They forgot to mention, "Even Part time (10 hours a month) Politicians/Elected and appointed Patronage employees will get the same. They didn't mention they would have tax funded pensions - no co pay insurance - no personal contribution healthcare - dental insurance - eye care and even AFLAC Insurance - all tax funded.

Then a few of them took it further and collected insurance from more than one position - like while collecting as Town Supervisor and collecting insurance from the Boys and Girls Club. Or bieng a school teacher and getting two tax funded pensions ! Or now as we see - collecting their tax funded pensions and full tax funded pay at the same time. And we thought Councilman Aquino was bad with five or six tax funded checks a month (no one knows to this day what he's still collecting) ?

You people just keep taking more - its all tax funded ! If you had true labor jobs there is no way on earth you'd have so much.

Generations on Political Welfare - aren't you all so proud ? Yes they were slick to turn "Public Service" into a tax funded wealth building tool !:

[Breezy]

Back when as Breezy stated "People shunned public service jobs" - was because in the 80's they earned far less - like a Council Member was paid $1700.00 a year and didnt get pensions or healthcare. Thats why it was known as "Public Service" - many people used to actually volunteer their time to help their Community !

So as stated before - they quietly passed local laws that entitled them to every thing the workers got and more. They made campaign fodder by saying, "Look what we are giving our employees" - "we will insure our employees get good benefits" - "Look what we are doing for you" - OH what grand standing tax funded glad handers they have been - all for the Community - for the kids !

They forgot to mention, "Even Part time (10 hours a month) Politicians/Elected and appointed Patronage employees will get the same. They didn't mention they would have tax funded pensions - no co pay insurance - no personal contribution healthcare - dental insurance - eye care and even AFLAC Insurance - all tax funded.

Then a few of them took it further and collected insurance from more than one position - like while collecting as Town Supervisor and collecting insurance from the Boys and Girls Club. Or bieng a school teacher and getting two tax funded pensions ! Or now as we see - collecting their tax funded pensions and full tax funded pay at the same time. And we thought Councilman Aquino was bad with five or six tax funded checks a month (no one knows to this day what he's still collecting) ?

You people just keep taking more - its all tax funded ! If you had true labor jobs there is no way on earth you'd have so much.

Generations on Political Welfare - aren't you all so proud ? Yes they were slick to turn "Public Service" into a tax funded wealth building tool !:

Again you just come off as jealous and jealous that you personally blew it for yourself due to ego.

And you are factually inaccurate on many of the other things stated in this post, too.

[Neubs24]

So from 2008 until 2015 - Coucilmember Stempniak collected:
$67,000.00 a year tax free = $670,000.00
$18,450.00 a year T.C.Pay = $184,500.00
$854,500.00 (+/-)
Plus her contract benefits as a school teacher. Healthcare and such average $12,00.00 - so possibly another $120,000.00

Now lets look at:
Town Clerk/Madam Supervisor Johanna Coleman Metz serves just 4 years as Supervisor.

$67,000.00 x 4 = $268,000.00 tax free retirement checks.
$12,000.00 x 4 = $48,000.00 tax funded benefits
$51,000.00 x 4 = $204,000.00 Supervisor pay

That's $510,000.00 (+/-) just for a four year term !

Plus tax funded benefits as Supervisor and or any other stipends she can gather going forward ! We haven't even considered vacation buy outs and other perks !

How many more elected or appointed employees are gonna be eligible for these tax funded Golden Parachutes ?

How much more can we afford ?

I'm interested to see if she restores the benefits that Fudoli gave back, like a town vehicle, cell phone and the extra stipends.

[gorja]

I'm interested to see if she restores the benefits that Fudoli gave back, like a town vehicle, cell phone and the extra stipends.

If she had anything to do with the budget amendments the council members put forth, there was no stipend for budget director added to the budget. They did increase increase mileage by $400.

[4248]

Since you and your friends like to use Military as a example to excuse the Double Dip scheme _

Read this Official pay charts for 2016 have been released. The 2016 National Defense Authorization Act included a 1.3 percent increase in military pay for 2016. However, the law essentially froze the pay for paygrades O-7 and above at 2015 levels. The new military pay charts apply to active members of the Navy, Marines, Army, Air Force, and Coast Guard. To see the new charts, visit the Military.com Pay section. To calculate your pay based on your basic pay, COLA and other factors, use the Military.com Pay Calculator.
RELATED TOPICS
Military Pay Military Pay Calculator

http://www.military.com/benefits/mil...ay-charts.html

Shame on you !

Also the average soldier will collect $2500.00 a month for retirement pay !

[4248]

I thought about how the media would report this - Gorja had a point about $7000.00 savings . So I guess this should be considered into the equation !

So from 2008 until 2015 - Coucilmember Stempniak collected:
$67,000.00 a year tax free = $670,000.00
$18,450.00 a year T.C.Pay = $184,500.00
$854,500.00 (+/-) Minus the claimed $70,000.00 savings = $784,500.00 (+/-)

- $784,500.00 (+/-) she collected out of which $670,000.00 was tax free !
- Plus her contract benefits as a school teacher. Healthcare and such average $12,00.00 - so possibly another $120,000.00(+/-)

But her fellow Lan Dem Town Officials were supportive of her move as they claim a $7000.00 yearly savings !

Now lets look at:
Town Clerk/Madam Supervisor Johanna Coleman Metz serves just 4 years as Supervisor.

$67,000.00 x 4 = $268,000.00 (+/-) tax free retirement checks.
$12,000.00 x 4 = $48,000.00 (+/-) tax funded benefits
$51,000.00 x 4 = $204,000.00 (+/-) Supervisor pay

That's $510,000.00 (+/-) just for a four year term !

Plus tax funded benefits as Supervisor and or any other stipends she can gather going forward ! We haven't even considered vacation buy outs and other perks ! But they will also find a way to add a spin and some how spin it by claiming a savings to the Town ! Most likely they will claim she suffered a minor pay cut as Supervisor - this to justify taking an extra $67,000.00 a year in tax free pension !

So while they inflate their tax funded pensions - which Lancaster tax payers fund - we can all be happy because they might have stretched the truth enough to pretend a savings was had.

How many more elected or appointed employees are gonna be eligible for these tax funded Golden Parachutes ?

Its a overt scheme/plan to inflate tax funded pensions ! Close the loop whole !

How much more can we afford ?

[4248]

They hid this ever sense she decided to run for Town Supervisor !
This is their idea of "Open Honest Public Service"

Soon we will see Town Clerk Johanna Coleman Metz will make it official. She will retire from the Town Clerks Office. Then she will come back as our new Madam Supervisor - Lancaster's newest "Double Dip Public Servant"

She will begin to collect two tax funded pay checks
- one tax funded pay check and hoist of benefits as Supervisor
- one tax funded life time Town Clerk retirement check plus what ever tax funded life time tax funded benefits that comes with that position.

Two checks for Madam Supervisor