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    Why don't they just divvy up the BPS on their own? The Town of Amherst seems to do okay with 3 school districts in town (Amherst, Sweet Home and Williamsville). Maybe the BPS as it stands is just too large. With 6 separate school districts, maybe it would be more manageable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorja View Post
    Why don't they just divvy up the BPS on their own? The Town of Amherst seems to do okay with 3 school districts in town (Amherst, Sweet Home and Williamsville). Maybe the BPS as it stands is just too large. With 6 separate school districts, maybe it would be more manageable.
    It should be split up. Larger governments, while offering some economy of size savings, tend to become nothing but big bureaucracies largely insulated from the people the governmental unit services. This is particularly true of school districts which should be one of the smallest forms of self-governance. Six superintendents who are accessible to the people in the smaller school district instead of one overpaid superintendent and 60 overpaid administrative assistants who are insulated from the people they serve is a much better arrangement. Combines for purchasing outside services and goods can always be entered into to save money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoobie View Post
    There's advantages and disadvantages. The concentration of poverty is so severe that neighborhood schools will deprive some kids of an opportunity to excel. This is a problem that will likely not go away for about a couple hundred years.
    How does the concentration of poverty effect the child once on the school grounds?

    If the child goes to one address or another the family situation is still the same.

    If it's the poverty issue the money that is spent on buses, labor to run the bus department and fuel could be used for other items. Example, clothes if some kids have parents that have issues providing for them. How many pairs of socks, sneakers, underwear and slacks can the "cost of one bus" provide? How many pencils, rulers, notepads and calculator could be purchased with one "busing administrator's" salary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    It should be split up. Larger governments, while offering some economy of size savings, tend to become nothing but big bureaucracies largely insulated from the people the governmental unit services. This is particularly true of school districts which should be one of the smallest forms of self-governance. Six superintendents who are accessible to the people in the smaller school district instead of one overpaid superintendent and 60 overpaid administrative assistants who are insulated from the people they serve is a much better arrangement. Combines for purchasing outside services and goods can always be entered into to save money.
    No way should the BPS split up into smaller and more manageable districts.

    First off, they would no longer be able to blame the suburbs for their issues. Secondly, some of the areas in Buffalo would actually start paying for their schools rather than having the state pick up most of the tab. Who in the hell would want that?

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    This is one reason I think we should merge the surrounding towns into one large City of Buffalo. Let the state pick up the tab for the cost of schools. Who the hell wouldn't want that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    This is one reason I think we should merge the surrounding towns into one large City of Buffalo. Let the state pick up the tab for the cost of schools. Who the hell wouldn't want that?
    The 70% of people who live in Erie County but not in Buffalo. You have the option for the state to pick up the tab right now.

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    What option? If the state can pick up the tab for the Cheektowaga School system what is the town board waiting for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    No way should the BPS split up into smaller and more manageable districts.

    First off, they would no longer be able to blame the suburbs for their issues. Secondly, some of the areas in Buffalo would actually start paying for their schools rather than having the state pick up most of the tab. Who in the hell would want that?
    We pay some of our way in the burbs. Why not the city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorja View Post
    We pay some of our way in the burbs. Why not the city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post

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    I'm so sick of blaming the failure of the BPS on an influx of immigrants. To start with the BPS were deemed a "failure" by a federal judge 30 years ago. He went on to supervise the creation of a 2-tier school system, a "magnet" system for the rich and politically connected and another tier in which he moved students around at his whim. This was long before the influx of immigrants who are being brought here by various "religious" groups and then loaded onto the welfare roles as soon as the "religious" can manage it. And this certainly isn't the first waive of immigrants to hit the public schools. My late mother-in-law didn't speak a word of English until she started school but she got through high school and learned English in the bargain and that was 80 years ago.

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