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    Members of the Buffalo Teachers Federation picketing outside Carl Paladino's home.

    Keep it at the office stay away from people's homes.By the way the teachers have been without a contract for over 11 yrs Carl Has been on the schollboard how many yrs?

    Posted by Anthony Gugino on Tuesday, May 26, 2015

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    Teachers are demanding a contract and wage increase.
    Set an example for the rest of the school districts to follow. You really don't deserve a raise just because you show up to work after a certain amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Set an example for the rest of the school districts to follow. You really don't deserve a raise just because you show up to work after a certain amount of time.
    After more than 10 years??


    YOU must have been an outstanding employee and gratefully survived on your wage for at least 10 years and gave back any increases you received during that time. Huh?
    Spend a day at one of the inner city schools and experience the easy day teachers have trying to maintain civility so that those who want to learn can. BTW..be prepared to get your a&% beat should you look the wrong way at a student or try to break up a fight between students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d. View Post
    After more than 10 years??

    YOU must have been an outstanding employee and gratefully survived on your wage for at least 10 years and gave back any increases you received during that time. Huh?
    Spend a day at one of the inner city schools and experience the easy day teachers have trying to maintain civility so that those who want to learn can. BTW..be prepared to get your a&% beat should you look the wrong way at a student or try to break up a fight between students.

    The reason the BFT has not gotten a new deal in 10 years is due to their own choices. Simply put; the way NYS labor law works, without a deal the previous deal and terms live on. The terms of the previous deal are better for teachers than what their new deal will have. So they drag this out and play the victim card. Idiots like yourself propagate this lie and people who can't be bothered to learn the facts buy it.

    Applying to become a Buffalo teacher is a choice. Sometimes it's the only choice after a teacher can't get a job in better school districts in the area. But it's still a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    Applying to become a Buffalo teacher is a choice. Sometimes it's the only choice after a teacher can't get a job in better school districts in the area. But it's still a choice.
    Oh, there are probably a few people highly talented teachers who wanted the challenge of teaching in a city school system, or who turned out to be highly talented even though no suburban district recognized their talents, but the overwhelming majority of teachers would rather be in a suburban district and end up in Buffalo only because they didn't get a job in a suburban district.

    So when Rumor complains that suburban teachers make more than BPS teachers, there is a good economic reason for that - if BPS paid more, then the best teachers would flock to BPS instead of first trying to get a job in a suburban district. Rumor has to face the fact that he represents the second and third string of the teaching profession. If the union didn't require that all players get the same pay, then the better teachers who ended up in the BPS could be compensated like their equals in the suburban districts.

    Of course, in the suburban districts we have the opposite problem - not every hire turns out as expected, but the slugs that are on board get to eat the same gourmet meal as the highly talented for the same inane reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Oh, there are probably a few people highly talented teachers who wanted the challenge of teaching in a city school system, or who turned out to be highly talented even though no suburban district recognized their talents, but the overwhelming majority of teachers would rather be in a suburban district and end up in Buffalo only because they didn't get a job in a suburban district.
    There are more than a few.

    So when Rumor complains that suburban teachers make more than BPS teachers, there is a good economic reason for that - if BPS paid more, then the best teachers would flock to BPS instead of first trying to get a job in a suburban district. Rumor has to face the fact that he represents the second and third string of the teaching profession. If the union didn't require that all players get the same pay, then the better teachers who ended up in the BPS could be compensated like their equals in the suburban districts.
    Before teachers come to work in Buffalo, it has to be made clear that Buffalo's special education enrollment is far higher than surrounding areas meaning that those dollars are going to go to those students which will, in effect, depress the overall salaries. How are you going to define a "better teacher"? You can't even define failure and success with graduation rates. Not every good teacher is solely or primarily motivated by higher pay.

    Of course, in the suburban districts we have the opposite problem - not every hire turns out as expected, but the slugs that are on board get to eat the same gourmet meal as the highly talented for the same inane reasons.
    Suburban teachers rely on the fact that their students are going to get good enough scores on Regents exams to carry them. On more than one occasion I've had to explain content to my suburban peers. Not that I care, but your assessment is largely wrong. There are more than a "few" highly talented teachers in Buffalo.

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    The BTF is complete garbage and this is just another example of why.

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