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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Even the victim wants it dropped, so what's the point?
    The point is that even if he doesn't go to jail he will be registered as a sex offender. That will allow police to keep an eye on him.

    You have to remember that this wasn't just some youthful indiscretion. He was 43 years old at the time he committed the crime. You also have to remember the way he committed the crime (by drugging) . This wasn't the case of slightly mismatched consensual romance between let's say a 21 year old and a 17 year old, but clearly a rape of a young teenager by a man clearly old enough to be her father.

    I know a lot of wild stuff happened in the 70's, but this clearly goes over the line of criminality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FisherRd View Post
    I'm sure if you had the ability to think your statement through for a second, just one second, you'd actually be mortified at the sheer stupidity.
    Actually, I did and I'm not.
    There are too many instances of people having sex with minors that are over looked.
    I know a guy from Missouri that was married to a 16 yr old when he was 20. Of course, there, it's a way of life.
    Not that I'm abdicating the Polanski thing but still, there are statutes of limitations for other crimes, and this was a pretty heinous one, for sure, but still, if the victim, as an adult has decided that it needs to be dropped, then drop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Actually, I did and I'm not.
    There are too many instances of people having sex with minors that are over looked.
    I know a guy from Missouri that was married to a 16 yr old when he was 20. Of course, there, it's a way of life.
    Not that I'm abdicating the Polanski thing but still, there are statutes of limitations for other crimes, and this was a pretty heinous one, for sure, but still, if the victim, as an adult has decided that it needs to be dropped, then drop it.
    This was not a borderline case by any means. The guy is a predator! He was already charged for the crime back in 1978 before he fled, so the statue of limitations doesn't apply. Check out this section on him from Wikipedia:

    Sex crime conviction

    In 1977, Polanski, then aged 44, became embroiled in a scandal involving 13-year-old Samantha Gailey (now Samantha Geimer). It ultimately led to Polanski's guilty plea to the charge of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.[33][34]
    According to Geimer, Polanski asked Geimer's mother if he could photograph the girl for the French edition of Vogue, which Polanski had been invited to guest-edit. Her mother allowed a private photo shoot. According to Geimer in a 2003 interview, "Everything was going fine; then he asked me to change, well, in front of him." She added, "It didn't feel right, and I didn't want to go back to the second shoot."[34]
    Geimer later agreed to a second session, which took place on March 10, 1977 at the Mulholland area home of actor Jack Nicholson in Los Angeles. "We did photos with me drinking champagne," Geimer says. "Toward the end it got a little scary, and I realized he had other intentions and I knew I was not where I should be. I just didn't quite know how to get myself out of there." She recalled in a 2003 interview that she began to feel uncomfortable after he asked her to lie down on a bed, and how she attempted to resist. "I said, 'No, no. I don't want to go in there. No, I don't want to do this. No!', and then I didn't know what else to do," she stated, adding: "We were alone and I didn’t know what else would happen if I made a scene. So I was just scared, and after giving some resistance, I figured well, I guess I’ll get to come home after this".[35]
    Geimer testified that Polanski gave her a combination of champagne and quaaludes,[36] a sedative drug, and "despite her protests, he performed oral sex, intercourse and sodomy on her",[37][38][39] each time after being told 'no' and being asked to stop.[40][41][42][43][34]

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Actually, I know a guy from Missouri that was married to a 16 yr old when he was 20. Of course, there, it's a way of life.
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    That wouldn't be a crime because they are both under 21 and within 4 years of age of each other, plus they are married. This is not about teenaged couples having sex, this is about the rape of a 13 year old by a much older man! Can you imagine how scared that girl must have been?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Actually, I did and I'm not.
    There are too many instances of people having sex with minors that are over looked.
    I know a guy from Missouri that was married to a 16 yr old when he was 20. Of course, there, it's a way of life.
    Not that I'm abdicating the Polanski thing but still, there are statutes of limitations for other crimes, and this was a pretty heinous one, for sure, but still, if the victim, as an adult has decided that it needs to be dropped, then drop it.
    The statue of limitations didn't run out because he was convicted and skipped out before he was sentenced. There's not going to be a new trial. Just sentence hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DomesticatedFeminist View Post
    Did anyone see the view on Monday?

    http://jezebel.com/5369395/

    Whoopi said it wasn't "rape-rape" then tried blaming the girl's parents.
    Say this three times fast : Whoopi is a waste -Whoopi is a waste - Whoopi is a waste. Why does anyone listen to her she is a joke. And a bad actress to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Actually, I did and I'm not.
    There are too many instances of people having sex with minors that are over looked.
    I know a guy from Missouri that was married to a 16 yr old when he was 20. Of course, there, it's a way of life.
    Not that I'm abdicating the Polanski thing but still, there are statutes of limitations for other crimes, and this was a pretty heinous one, for sure, but still, if the victim, as an adult has decided that it needs to be dropped, then drop it.
    He fleed the country and didn't do the time. This isn't the same as a 16 and a 20 year old. There is a 30 year age difference and she was barely even a teen yet.

    I'm sure she was paid well so of course she's gonna say drop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Actually, I did and I'm not.
    There are too many instances of people having sex with minors that are over looked.
    I know a guy from Missouri that was married to a 16 yr old when he was 20. Of course, there, it's a way of life.
    Not that I'm abdicating the Polanski thing but still, there are statutes of limitations for other crimes, and this was a pretty heinous one, for sure, but still, if the victim, as an adult has decided that it needs to be dropped, then drop it.
    Your ignorance and lack of moral fiber has no bounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSense View Post
    Your ignorance and lack of moral fiber has no bounds.
    See how much we have in common, goodie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda_D View Post
    The statue of limitations didn't run out because he was convicted and skipped out before he was sentenced. There's not going to be a new trial. Just sentence hearing.
    Correct. He was already tried and found guilty. Then he skipped out. The sentance will have to be exactly as it would have been in 1978: 90 day mental evaluation in a crimianl metal institution, plus the evading justice.
    Earlier this year a new judge stated that he would consider dropping all the charges again Polanski if he would just show up.
    The victim here has no say any longer. there is no way she can 'drop the charges", even though she took a settlement from Polanski. The primary charge is evading justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FisherRd View Post
    I'm sure if you had the ability to think your statement through for a second, just one second, you'd actually be mortified at the sheer stupidity.

    Fish,,,,you NEVER disappoint

    I'm glad you don't post more...my cheeks hurt from laughing. ...sstttoppp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Actually, I did and I'm not.
    There are too many instances of people having sex with minors that are over looked.
    How many involve a 43 year old man drugging and plying a 13 year old girl with booze, taking nude photos, and then raping her?
    I know a guy from Missouri that was married to a 16 yr old when he was 20. Of course, there, it's a way of life.
    43 year old man, 13 year old girl.
    Not that I'm abdicating the Polanski thing but still, there are statutes of limitations for other crimes, and this was a pretty heinous one, for sure, but still, if the victim, as an adult has decided that it needs to be dropped, then drop it.
    Once you plead guilty, there are not statutes of limitations. The victim was paid off, and regardless of her input, there are repurcussions for raping 13 year olds and then fleeing the country to avoid paying the piper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FisherRd View Post
    Once you plead guilty, there are not statutes of limitations. The victim was paid off, and regardless of her input, there are repurcussions for raping 13 year olds and then fleeing the country to avoid paying the piper.
    Couldn't you just envision some highly aggitated Southerner with a firearm or farm implement getting a hold of a rapist like that ...or hell how about a group of em.

    Give me one Ted Nugent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    Couldn't you just envision some highly aggitated Southerner with a firearm or farm implement getting a hold of a rapist like that ...or hell how about a group of em.

    Give me one Ted Nugent.

    You mean kinda like this??

    http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...#ixzz0S9fttjB0
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    Dumbest post ever! Thanks for the laugh PO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    no worse.

    And while were at it... how about that caning... spare the rod.

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