Slaughterhouse on Ridge Rd. Lackawanna

[cath829]

The Moose Lodge then?? Name the evening.....free after 5:30. Black Dogs?

[Pete Moss]

Cath, how can you say GOD has nothing to do with it that its the good ole boys who are responsible?? Whens the last time you been to church? You obviously aren't a believer. GOD is the all knowing and the Master of the Universe, nothing happens without GOD so get your act together and start letting Andrea speak for herself. You talk to much nonsense.

Apparently you have been misinformed or have formed erroneous opinions about God.

God is not the cause of evil, evil deeds are committed by the people who are the children of the devil.

The children of the devil can be found everywhere in this world. They are found working as code enforcement officers in the City of Lackawanna, they are found working as City of Lackawanna Judges, they are found working as councilmen for the City of Lackawanna. They are even found within the Catholic Church.

Allow me to give you a little history lessson; one of the first Bishops of the Catholic church was a devil. Jesus said: Jn:6:70: Jesus answered them: Have not I chosen you twelve? And one of you is a devil."

Judas Iscariot, ordained a Bishop by God the Son, was a child of the devil.

Fast forward 1500 years, Martin Luther, a Catholic Priest, had renounced the Faith, made up his own god and mislead many people to follow him and the god he created.

Did God cause these people to commit evil deeds? (The answer is no in case you don't know the answer)

Your assertion that people are attacking Andrea because God wills it is completely erroneous and ludicrous. The wicked commit evil deeds because they are indwelt by the devil, and they do the work of the devil.

[YNOTNOW]

It seems to me that it's people on "the inside" who are trying to "stir the pot". I'm an outsider, but I'm just trying to figure out why Haxton is so hysterically opposed to a legitimate business locating in Lackawanna. While it's true that a slaughterhouse is probably not the first business most municipalities would have on their list of desired businesses, it's better than nothing, and certainly better than a strip club or an adult book store. Since Haxton has studiously avoided my questions, perhaps you can answer me -- is it SOP in Lackawanna for the City Council to investigate/vote on each and every business that wants to set up shop in the city or is it simply an administrative matter of getting the right permits and inspections as long as the business is a "conforming use" for its zoning?

Ms. D, Did you read all the posts on this thread or just jump in here at the end? They already have a porn shop and Haxton listed all the crap businesses that they keep trying to put "back the bridge" (like shoving your junk into the back of the closet, where you don't have to look at it all the time).
This slaughterhouse was controversial before it came to Lackawanna, it was all over the news that the neighborhood they wanted to locate--ran them off. This in itself warrants a closer look. Why did the people that are working on bringing this slaughterhouse to Lackawanna keep it secret? Why aren't the citizens allowed to decide what they want in their neighborhood?
Did you happen to notice those signs people had on their front lawns that screamed YES/NO Walmart?

[keyboard150]

Ms. D, Did you read all the posts on this thread or just jump in here at the end? They already have a porn shop and Haxton listed all the crap businesses that they keep trying to put "back the bridge" (like shoving your junk into the back of the closet, where you don't have to look at it all the time).
This slaughterhouse was controversial before it came to Lackawanna, it was all over the news that the neighborhood they wanted to locate--ran them off. This in itself warrants a closer look. Why did the people that are working on bringing this slaughterhouse to Lackawanna keep it secret? Why aren't the citizens allowed to decide what they want in their neighborhood?
Did you happen to notice those signs people had on their front lawns that screamed YES/NO Walmart?

You have been misinformed. They weren't "run off" from the Buffalo site, they decided to take their business elsewhere because some idiot decided to make a broadway musical over something minor.

That's the way it goes in this area, though. One psycho screws it up for everyone.

(IE: Joel Rose)

[tiredofbs]

You have been misinformed. They weren't "run off" from the Buffalo site, they decided to take their business elsewhere because some idiot decided to make a broadway musical over something minor.

That's the way it goes in this area, though. One psycho screws it up for everyone.

(IE: Joel Rose)

That cannot be true. Are you saying that ONE (1) person (psycho) has that much power?

[YNOTNOW]

You have been misinformed. They weren't "run off" from the Buffalo site, they decided to take their business elsewhere because some idiot decided to make a broadway musical over something minor.

That's the way it goes in this area, though. One psycho screws it up for everyone.

(IE: Joel Rose)

That is not the point key, although I disagree with your word play, weather they took it out or they got thrown out. The point was that the city should/could have had a public meeting to gauge the residents feelings on this particular business. Why did they keep it a secret? That says A LOT!

[DennisMulqueen]

Heres the problem : Article 66.2 of the city's charter states NO PERSONS shall breed,raise, HARBOR or MAINTAIN any bees,poultry chickens,turkeys,ducks,geese or any other fowl or reptiles,or any swine,horses,cows,mules,goats,sheep or any other animals or reptiles WITHIN THE CITY EXCEPT DOMESTICATED PETS. Now that being the LAW of the city how does this buisness get around this law without:

1) A Public Hearing
2) A Council resolution changing this LAW
3) A change in animals being kept in city

The people I talked to said that the STATE said it was fine for them to locate here. All laws and regulations were being followed. That being said the state laws and regs are being followed but the city law is not as a rule in NYS the more RESTRICTIVE law applies. In my personal opinon NO PERSONS means everyone including BUISNESS and they will be HARBORING And MAINTAINING LIVE Animals aka (CHICKENS-GOATS-SHEEP which are banned under CITY LAW)waiting for slaughter.So that being said I ask how do they not have a hearing and or law change? Personally I am not against this buisness just the way our CITY handled the matter. Also in today's paper the Mayor said 20% of it was slaughter area but I was personally told 5% the numbers always change with these guys.Why?Answers anyone?

[DennisMulqueen]

By the way we sell/rent porn across from charter school on Ridge I wonder how they beat state law on this one.I told 2 council members this before the place was even built.They looked at me dumbfounded.

[Linda_D]

Heres the problem : Article 66.2 of the city's charter states NO PERSONS shall breed,raise, HARBOR or MAINTAIN any bees,poultry chickens,turkeys,ducks,geese or any other fowl or reptiles,or any swine,horses,cows,mules,goats,sheep or any other animals or reptiles WITHIN THE CITY EXCEPT DOMESTICATED PETS. Now that being the LAW of the city how does this buisness get around this law without:

1) A Public Hearing
2) A Council resolution changing this LAW
3) A change in animals being kept in city

The people I talked to said that the STATE said it was fine for them to locate here. All laws and regulations were being followed. That being said the state laws and regs are being followed but the city law is not as a rule in NYS the more RESTRICTIVE law applies. In my personal opinon NO PERSONS means everyone including BUISNESS and they will be HARBORING And MAINTAINING LIVE Animals aka (CHICKENS-GOATS-SHEEP which are banned under CITY LAW)waiting for slaughter.So that being said I ask how do they not have a hearing and or law change? Personally I am not against this buisness just the way our CITY handled the matter. Also in today's paper the Mayor said 20% of it was slaughter area but I was personally told 5% the numbers always change with these guys.Why?Answers anyone?

The fact that the law prohibits farm animals is a fair reason to oppose the way the slaughterhouse was given an okay by the city without changing the law. Haxton never brought that up, however, but rather started ranting about sanitation and smell, etc.

I'm not sure, however, that amending the law would require a special hearing, simply a discussion at the city council meeting before the council voted on changing the law or keeping it as is.

[keyboard150]

The fact that the law prohibits farm animals is a fair reason to oppose the way the slaughterhouse was given an okay by the city without changing the law. Haxton never brought that up, however, but rather started ranting about sanitation and smell, etc.

I'm not sure, however, that amending the law would require a special hearing, simply a discussion at the city council meeting before the council voted on changing the law or keeping it as is.

Buffalo has already begun amending its laws, as have other cities across the country. Get with the program LA!

[keyboard150]

http://www.buffalonews.com/145/story/816798.html


Uh oh, Andrea! You better get on this quick and stop it before it actually happens! We wouldn't want 100 jobs coming to Lackawanna now, would we? That would distract from the community center!

[cdkscully]

Typical of people. They fight to keep a govt building (post office) in town, which is costing tax payer 13 BILLION dollars this year, vs having private business empolyee 30+ good paying job, that will pay more taxes than they consume.

This arguement is the opidimy what's wrong with NYS.

Tired and Andrea are official NIMBY card holders!

Slaughterhouses are not "safe" havens for jobs. You will be paying more when those 35 employees go on disability because they've been injured.

Please educate yourself on the slaughterhouse industry AND do spell check.

Firefox has spell check in the browser automatically.

[cdkscully]

http://www.buffalonews.com/145/story/816798.html


Uh oh, Andrea! You better get on this quick and stop it before it actually happens! We wouldn't want 100 jobs coming to Lackawanna now, would we? That would distract from the community center!

Not for this type of industry.

You might want to read a book instead of hanging out on these forums:

Excerpt:

In the last 15 years, thousands of America's small to mid-sized slaughterhouses have been displaced by a few large, high-speed operations, each with the capacity to kill more than a million animals a year. With fewer slaughterhouses killing an ever-growing number of animals, slaughter "line speeds" have accelerated and a production mentality has emerged in which the rapid slaughter line never seems to stop for anything—not for injured workers, not for contaminated meat, and, least of all, not for slow or disabled animals.

P. 94 Interview: "They make sure everything's by the book when anybody official visits. Whenever OSHA comes to check on things, the stick pit [where animals are bled out] runs like a jewel. As soon as they're gone, it's back to business as usual."


P. 271: … [W]ith nearly thirty-six injuries or illnesses for every one hundred workers, meat packing is the most dangerous industry in the United States. In fact, a worker's chances of suffering an injury or an illness in a meat plant are six times greater than if that same person worked in a coal mine.

-- from the book Slaughterhouse

[cdkscully]

The new hotel sits on Route 5....been open for a while. I wish people who are not from or familiar with Lackawanna would go away. You know NOTHING about our city or the people in it.

That most of the population is from Yemen and you housed the Lackawanna 6.

But then look at the quote from the owner of the slaughterhouse"

Owner Yousef Jaarah said, "We sell like lamb goats calf, gonna be chicken."

Ahh so educated! That's what you need in Lackawanna! This will go along well with Frank Grasso! Maybe Grasso can help kill the livestock.

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/lackawa...erhouse_090910

[cdkscully]

That most of the population is from Yemen and you housed the Lackawanna 6.

But then look at the quote from the owner of the slaughterhouse"

Owner Yousef Jaarah said, "We sell like lamb goats calf, gonna be chicken."

Ahh so educated! That's what you need in Lackawanna! This will go along well with Frank Grasso! Maybe Grasso can help kill the livestock.

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/lackawa...erhouse_090910

Should be "Fred".

Cannot find "Edit posts" on these boards.