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    There are some pretty dumb people in this thread. The easiest way to deal with a disease is to control and isolate the infected population. This can't be 100% done, but things like stopping air travel from countries affected by the outbreak is common sense. Sure, people can go to another country and fly out of that, but most won't, and this will control the spread of the disease.

    It's not rocket science. But apparently President Obola isn't smart enough to know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    When res or steven paint themselves into a corner they just continue to spew nonsensical statements to try to outlast reason and logic.
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    US Customs does not maintain a presence in other countries airports. We can ban people from these countries but they will have already traveled to the US unless the originating country also agrees to ban them from getting on the plane in the first place.

    Additionally, there are no direct flights from any of the affected countries to the US. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/w...-wouldnt-work/

    As someone who has traveled to Africa, you always have to go through Europe first.

    The ban people are asking for would be more symbolic than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeefan2009 View Post
    There are some pretty dumb people in this thread. The easiest way to deal with a disease is to control and isolate the infected population. This can't be 100% done, but things like stopping air travel from countries affected by the outbreak is common sense. Sure, people can go to another country and fly out of that, but most won't, and this will control the spread of the disease.

    It's not rocket science. But apparently President Obola isn't smart enough to know that.
    More nonsense. Banning travel to or from a few countries does nothing to stop the spread of a disease. The intelligent people know that the world truly is flat for communicable diseases. The dummies think they can build a wall on one side of a house to keep out the cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
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    Ebola news roundup:
    The CDC is now requiring all travelers from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea (the three African countries most stricken by the Ebola virus) to go through a 21-day monitoring period. They will be required to take their temperatures once per day and report to public health authorities each day for three weeks
    Rwanda is screening Americans and Spaniards trying to enter the country. After all, the U.S. and Spain have had more Ebola cases than Rwanda, which has had zero. — The Financial Times

    China, which is Africa's biggest trading partner, is evacuating workers from West Africa due to the Ebola scare
    A Red Cross official believes the Ebola epidemic can be contained within the next four to six months.

    Elhadj As Sy, secretary general of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, said at a Beijing news conference that the timeline depends on ‘‘good isolation, good treatment of the cases which are confirmed,’’ as well as ‘‘safe burials’’ for people who die from Ebola.
    People who wonder if the glass is half empty or full miss the point. The glass is refillable.

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    Of course, thee is no chance any of those Chinese will bring home the virus and spread it to one of the worlds largest population bases. We will be protected keeping those Liberians out of the US. Right.

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    Your always right and the rest of the world is always wrong..... We get it
    People who wonder if the glass is half empty or full miss the point. The glass is refillable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    Your always right and the rest of the world is always wrong..... We get it
    You're usually wrong, and the rest of the world isn't. You don't get it, that is the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Of course, thee is no chance any of those Chinese will bring home the virus and spread it to one of the worlds largest population bases. We will be protected keeping those Liberians out of the US. Right.
    Yes we would be. For at least a longer period of time. Pretty much common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Pretty much common sense.

    Last edited by steven; October 24th, 2014 at 01:55 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Yes we would be. For at least a longer period of time. Pretty much common sense.
    No it would not be. The world is flat when it comes to communicable diseases. You can't stop it by focusing in only one direction. Doing so will only waste valuable resources and in fact speed the spread of the problem.

    More often then not people claim the "common sense" high ground when all they have really done is stopped thinking through a problem.

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    Yes it would be common sense. Here is an issue we face. People without common sense don't realize they don't have any common sense.

    Let us talk about wasted valuable resources. The doctor in NYC who just returned from a country with Ebola. He went on a subway, bowling and what ever right after treating people with Ebola. He tested positive for Ebola. I'm pretty sure 1000's of dollars of resources are going to be spent tracking people he has come into contact with. If there was a ban from that infected country with a quarantine period for anyone leaving that country this would not be happening right now. Yes he could have flown into the USA through another country but if you noticed other countries are banning travel from infected areas. We can ban people who have been in an infected country in the last 90 days even if they want to fly in from a country not infected. Track it by passports. Right?

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    First Ebola patient in New York City

    (CNN) -- A doctor who recently returned from Guinea has tested positive for Ebola -- the first case of the deadly virus in New York City and the fourth diagnosed in the United States.

    ..............................................mean while back at speakupwny

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    If there was a ban from that infected country with a quarantine period for anyone leaving that country this would not be happening right now.
    That is where your logic hits the wall. Even if he was not allowed to return to the US because he had been in west Africa, all the 1000's of people he would have come in contact with on his flights and travels to and in any other country would be potential infected carriers of the disease to the US.

    The suggestion that we can address the problem by prohibiting travel from a few countries is intellectual pissing in the wind. Trying to depict it as common sense doesn't help to overcome its delusional conclusions.

    It's like the claim that if we don't teach teenagers about human sexuality, then teenagers won't have sex.

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