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    Thumbs down Who's going to plow our roads

    Now the town board is refusing to plow county roads unless they pay $5000 that they claim is owed to the Town. I'm glad that they are looking out for our safety.

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    Why are you mad at the town? Its the counties responsibility, Poloncarz has been trying to dump off roads to the towns all over Erie County so he can piss our money away elsewhere.
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    BOSTON, N.Y. (WIVB) - It won’t be long before the roads in western New York are covered in snow. Town of Boston residents want to know who will be removing their snow. The town is in a financial fight with Erie County.
    Town Supervisor Martin Ballowe said the town is owed almost $5,000 for snow plowing services. The town board plans to act on a resolution Wednesday. It would give the county 30 days notice the town is backing out of an agreement to plow more than 35 miles of county roads in Boston. It would then be up to the county to plow those roads.
    Boston resident Rose Boswell said, “As far as I know, the Town of Boston has always been really good with local plowing. The county, I’m not so sure."
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    So the town won't plow the roads over $5000. Doesn't the Town get paid a lot more than $5000 from the county for this? Won't there be a deficit in the highway budget? Will my taxes go up or will there be layoffs? Seems like there a lot more at stake.

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    yet it is illegal for a private citizen to plow said road
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    This is part of the problem with every Village, Town and so on having their own little home owner tax funded groups/officials/patronage.

    People believe if we consolidated many of these over lapping services we wouldn't have these issues !

    Locals are told, "WE will lose representation - we want our own voice in Government" - hows that working for you ?

    Each layer costs home owners more - each group hires their local supporters - check out what its costing you !

    Local Government costs you more for services that many pay other agencies to do anyway !

    Time to reconsider small town ideas of local government - these are no longer farmers who come from the fields to help out. They are career politicians with salaries, tax funded benefits and tax funded pensions - most of the time better than most home owning tax paying residents will ever receive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4248 View Post
    This is part of the problem with every Village, Town and so on having their own little home owner tax funded groups/officials/patronage.

    People believe if we consolidated many of these over lapping services we wouldn't have these issues !

    Locals are told, "WE will lose representation - we want our own voice in Government" - hows that working for you ?

    Each layer costs home owners more - each group hires their local supporters - check out what its costing you !

    Local Government costs you more for services that many pay other agencies to do anyway !

    Time to reconsider small town ideas of local government - these are no longer farmers who come from the fields to help out. They are career politicians with salaries, tax funded benefits and tax funded pensions - most of the time better than most home owning tax paying residents will ever receive.
    What "overlapping services"? The county isn't plowing county roads in Boston. It contracted with the town to plow them, and apparently isn't keeping its end of the agreement, ie, paying for services rendered. So, unless an agreement is reached, it will have to plow its own roads in the town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda_D View Post
    What "overlapping services"? The county isn't plowing county roads in Boston. It contracted with the town to plow them, and apparently isn't keeping its end of the agreement, ie, paying for services rendered. So, unless an agreement is reached, it will have to plow its own roads in the town.

    Does the Town have a highway or road department that's tax funded and does snow plowing- yes or no?

    The County was paying the Town to plow some roads - yes or no ?

    So if the County plows roads in that area - they provide that type service - yes or no ?

    The Town has employees that plow roads - so thats duplication and people are paying Town taxes and County taxes for services that the County could provide - yes or no ?
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    Linda, don't try too hard to explain things to 4248. The towns en masse should tell Markie to get his lazy ass highway people off their rumps and plow the county roads. If the county refuses take them to court and make them fulfill their legal duty to take care of their own stinking roads. Maybe Markie could find some simple job in the county DPW for his brother, eg making sure the spare tires don't roll away. If 4248 wants to eliminate layers of govt I hope he knows to begin at the county, the most wasteful least needed level of govt in NYS.

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    That's part of the point - tax payers don't actually understand what their home owners taxes pay for !

    This is great - information is flowing and people who normally wouldn't contribute are !

    Nice keep the flow going !


    Tax payers must rethink leaving their Towns/tax spending decisions up to a handful of Political insiders.
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    Trolling? NO I'm tired of us being used by our politicians, in this case the Town waits until winter to inform us that they are in a dispute with the county and everyone should be on guard because they won't plow the county roads. Why did they do this now? Why did they not do this in the spring? Because they wanted to get all of us to get all upset and act like little sheep and call the county to complain.

    Lets look at the costs (lets estimate them high for this):
    Hourly wage $25
    Overtime wage $37.50
    Overtime wage including benifits $60
    5 months of winter, 20 weeks, 140 days
    One shift per day to take care of the county roads- 8hrs a day
    1120 Hrs times $60 that equals $67,200
    That leaves $60,800 for salt, fuel, and wear and tear

    The county payes them $128,000, do you still think that this not enough?
    Do you really think it would take that much time?
    This is why our taxes are so high!

    I've lived in this town all of my life and I'm worried about our future, my childerns future and some day thier childerns future. We cannot continue to fund these taxes and patronage jobs. We are the highest taxed state and that goes for all forms of goverment. Goverment has many functions but it seems as though the politicians have put who's in control and hands out the pork as the most important function.

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    I guess you're against having any highway dept at all. You, 4248 and all the rest should get together and plow your roads. Oh and do it without any cost so there's no "pork" involved. Your town plowed just 1 county road 280 times last year. Multiply that by the number of county roads your town is plowing and I doubt this is the deal you think it is

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    And you must be a Grisanti supporter.

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    The Governor has called for help all the way to Washington. Is he to blame - he is the ultimate leader in all this - isn't he ?

    No one Village, Town , City or County could handle this storm. No one supervisor - county exec or elected official can just airlift plows from one location to another.

    All the finger pointing is just useless energy - everyone out there is doing all they can - that's all they can do.

    Instead of just blaming Politicians - because we all know its easy to do - get out and help !

    I was in Clarence last night helping people in a trailer park - going back within the hour. The Park has mainly senior citizens in it. We go door to door and atleast touch base with them.

    Call that lady down the street - take a shovel - walk across the road and shake your neighbors hand - maybe you too could do some good.

    If Government is your only answer - your part of what keeps the same people in office.

    Change starts in your own doings.

    CULATER - gone shoveling !
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    Yea - Grumps right - take them to court - waste thousands and thousands of tax dollars going to court crying because government wont do what you want.

    Raise your local taxes - hire more patronage workers and see how that works for you!

    When someone says cut anything like local government people like grump says that wont work - go higher. When someone says consolidate services grump says - no that wont work.

    People like Grump just like to throw gas on the fire and offer no plausible solution.

    Just bitch and point fingers at some one else.

    In the mean time don't forget to vote - write the check for your taxes and relax Government will rise up and protect us .
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