Reply With QuoteWell, that was a downer.
So, Avet: How long do you think it will be before we start bombing Iran?
A couple months, maybe?
SPREADING DEMOCRACY (FOR EVERYBODYS OWN GOOD)!! IT WORK$ !!
Iraq unrest forces 65,000 to flee
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4905770.stm
At least 65,000 Iraqis have fled their homes as a result of sectarian violence and intimidation, according to new figures from the Iraqi government. And the rate at which Iraqis are being displaced is increasing.
Figures given to the BBC by the Ministry for Displacement and Migration show a doubling in the last two weeks of the number of Iraqis forced to move.
Intimidation
Reports of people leaving their homes because of violence or intimidation, or simply because they no longer feel safe, are becoming more and more common.
Some of the intimidation is being carried out by mobile phone.
People have been receiving threatening text messages and gruesome videos filmed on mobile phone cameras. In one, a Sunni Iraqi man who entered a mainly Shia neighbourhood of Baghdad is seen being beaten and killed by men in black clothes.
The video was then sent out with the warning that this is what would happen to any other Sunni who came to the area.
Its latest figures are lower that the Iraqi government's, with reports that about 6,500 families or about 40,000 individuals have fled their homes since the attack on the Samarra shrine.
But the IOM does not dispute the Iraqi government figures. It says the IOM reports do not include estimates for the numbers sheltering with family or friends.
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PLEASE!! IRAQS PEOPLE !!! ....HOLD UP YOUR PURPLE FINGER FOR THE CAMERA AS YOU FLEE !!!! IT HAS COST US TRILLION$ OF DOLLARS, AND THOUSANDS OF GOOD SOLDIERS LIVES !! IT'S GOOD FOR THE PR !
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Stolen military data for sale in Afghanistan
Portable computer drives peddled at bazaar outside Bagram Air Base
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12305580/
Just outside the main gate of the huge U.S. military base in Bagram, Afghanistan, shopkeepers at a bazaar peddle a range of goods, including computer drives with sensitive — even secret information — stolen from the base.
This week, an NBC News producer, using a hidden camera, visited the bazaar and bought a half dozen of the memory drives the size of a thumb known as flash drives. On them, NBC News found highly sensitive military information, some which NBC will not reveal.
Some of the data would be valuable to the enemy, including:
>Names and personal information for dozens of DOD interrogators;
>Documents on an “interrogation support cell” and interrogation methods;
>IDs and photos of U.S. troops.
With information like this, “You could cripple our U.S. intelligence collection capability in Afghanistan,” says Francona.
Among the photos of Americans are pictures of individuals who appear to have been tortured and killed, most too graphic to show. NBC News does not know who caused their injuries. The Pentagon would not comment on the photos.
“This is simply appalling,” says Col. Ken Allard (ret.), an NBC News military analyst. “You've got a situation in which the U.S. is going to be forced to change an awful lot of its operational techniques.”
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DOES ANY OF THE FOLLOWING SOUND VAGUELY FAMILIAR ??? DEJA FREEKIN VU !!!
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On Cheney, Rumsfeld order, US outsourcing special ops, intelligence to Iraq terror group, intelligence officials say
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/US...ring_0413.html
The Pentagon is bypassing official US intelligence channels and turning to a dangerous and unruly cast of characters in order to create strife in Iran in preparation for any possible attack, former and current intelligence officials say.
One former counterintelligence official, who wished to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the information, describes the Pentagon as pushing MEK shortly after the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The drive to use the insurgent group was said to have been advanced by the Pentagon under the influence of the Vice President’s office and opposed by the State Department, National Security Council and then-National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice.
Asked how long the MEK agents have been active in the region under the guidance of the US military civilian leadership, the UN official explained that the clandestine war had been going on for roughly a year and included unmanned drones run jointly by several agencies.
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UN must consider Iran response that includes military action: Rice
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Thursday called on the United Nations to adopt a resolution against Iran's nuclear programme under chapter seven of the UN charter, which could allow military action.
Chapter seven sets out action that can be taken when there is a threat to international peace or an act of aggression.
Several resolutions against Iraq, before the March 2003 US-led invasion, were taken under chapter seven of the charter
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Analysts Say a Nuclear Iran Is Years Away
http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/sf/nyt4_13_06.htm
Western nuclear analysts said yesterday that Tehran lacked the skills, materials and equipment to make good on its immediate nuclear ambitions, even as a senior Iranian official said Iran would defy international pressure and rapidly expand its ability to enrich uranium for fuel.
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Rumsfeld resignation calls grow
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4908948.stm
The White House has said it is happy with the way Mr Rumsfeld is handling his job and the situation in Iraq.
But the backing comes as the number of retired generals calling for him to be replaced has risen to six.
It is being described as a rebellion led by those who know Mr Rumsfeld's handling of the war from the inside.
The two most recent retired generals to voice their unease about Mr Rumsfeld's handling of the war are Maj Gen John Riggs and Maj Gen Charles H Swannack Jr, both of the Army.
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Ret. General hits three network morning shows calling for Rumsfeld's ouster
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Tr...m_of_0414.html
Major General John Batiste (ret) appeared on the "TODAY Show," and talked to Katie Couric about the reasons he believes Donald Rumsfeld should be fired.
"We certainly had the troops necessary to win the fight to take down Saddam Hussein, but we in no way considered the hard work to win the peace. There was 10 years of good, deliberate war planning by U.S. Central Command that was essentially ignored."
"We went to war with a flawed plan that didn't account for the hard work to build the peace after we took down the regime. We also served under a secretary of Defense who didn't understand leadership, who was abusive, who was arrogant, who didn't build a strong team."
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Government Spending Hits Record in March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060412/...nthly_budget_3
Government spending hit an all-time high for a single month in March, pushing the budget deficit up significantly from the red-ink level of a year ago.
In its monthly accounting of the government's books, the Treasury Department reported Wednesday that federal spending totaled $250 billion last month, up 13.7 percent from March 2005.
The March outlay record of $250 billion surpassed the old mark of $232 billion set in February.
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Lawmaker upset by silence on another Dubai deal
Apr 11
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/security_congress_dubai_dc
A U.S. lawmaker on Tuesday fumed that the Bush administration refused to divulge anything about a security review it is conducting of a Dubai-owned company that is planning to take over several plants in the U.S. that make equipment for defense contractors.
The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), an inter-agency panel led by the Treasury Department, is reviewing the $1.24 billion takeover of Doncasters, a British engineering group with U.S. holdings, by state-owned Dubai International Capital.
Doncasters has plants in nine U.S. locations making parts for defense contractors. The Dubai takeover has sparked security concerns from Rep. John Barrow, a Georgia Democrat, who represents a district which has a plant that makes tank engines.
Barrow said the Treasury Department's reluctance to discuss the latest proposal with him suggested it had learned little from the congressional outcry over a now-abandoned deal that would have allowed another Dubai company to take over some U.S. port operations.
"If I can't find out from my own government what is going on, it ain't congressional oversight," Barrow said in a telephone interview with Reuters.
"We (lawmakers) can't find out things ... We have no reason to believe they (the administration) are doing anything other than sleepwalking through the review process," he said.
Well, that was a downer.
So, Avet: How long do you think it will be before we start bombing Iran?
A couple months, maybe?
For the sake of humanity....I hope not. Cooler "logical" heads MUST prevail!
Me too. But somehow this all seems familiar, right down to the lack of good intelligence, and a trustworthy leader.Originally Posted by avet
Bush sure likes regime change, although you would have thought he learned his lesson in Iraq.
How is that even remotely possible?"...you would have thought he learned his lesson in Iraq."
NONE of their kids are serving or dying in Iraq or anywhere. Not anyone from their entire family. Their all groomed\given positions for power\wealth from the gecko, weither their entirely stupid\deserving or not.
NONE of them have to turn the heat down\living comfort level, where they live, to 60 deg, cause they can't afford it.
NONE of them can be suffer ANY sort of discipline whatsoever for "blatently" breaking ANY laws.
NONE of them have to suffer, living with ANY sort of medical problems\conditions or the severe financial burdens that come with it. Fully equiped, professional staff are always right there, in a finger snap, at private hunting clubs, golf courses, etc. Their elderly\suffering don't die in their own bedrooms.
NONE of them pay or have to "sacrifice" for ....ANYTHING.
How can ANY lessons, whatsover, ....ever be learned?
They have unlimited funding, backed by "the" most powerfull, most secret societies....in the world.
There endeth the lesson.
I don't think they are learning a lesson. I think it's going along as they planned. You think these people have any remorse? If they have no problem sending your son ( over 2,000 US troops dead) to die for their lies, Why is the 911 inside job so hard to believe?
The evil hide even when no one is chasing them.- Proverbs
That would be kinda funny if we bombed them. Iran would blockade the Straits of Hormuz, preventing any Persian Gulf oil tankers from getting out. Clueless Americans would suddenly see $14/gallon gas prices. Fun Fun Fun!!
SUVs will become oversized paperweights overnight.
You folks sound identical to our sworn enemy. What gives? who are you?
Didn't you get the memo?
To be a truly sophisticate Citizen of the World-American Branch, you need to focus all your critical attention on your own country, the true root of evil in the world.
The twisted, warped monsters full of bloodlust who rejoice at every opportunity to kill Americans need to be better understood.
So shape up, Boost.
The next thing you know, you'll be hawking some drivel about how you live in the greatest, freest country that ever existed in human history.
Truth springs from argument among friends.
Hey Boost, you're back.
So, do you think we'll start bombing Iran? If so, when?
Uhhh, right.
I dont know but I just hope to God its not absolutely necessary.
If it is necessary, I hope to God we know when to do it.
The stakes are huge.
Maybe the French had that same approach, " Nazis are the good guys, we're losers", so they gave up and surrendered.
Very perceptive, comming from somebody ...like you.The twisted, warped monsters full of bloodlust who rejoice at every opportunity to kill Americans need to be better understood.
from my 1st post:
Pentagon Weighs Use of Deception in a Broad ArenaThe Pentagon is bypassing official US intelligence channels and turning to a dangerous and unruly cast of characters in order to create strife in Iran....
...such deceptive missions could shatter the Pentagon's credibility, leaving the American public and a world audience skeptical of anything the Defense Department and military say - a repeat of the credibility gap that roiled America during the Vietnam War.
Weapons of Mass Deception
>Top Bush officials advocated the invasion of Iraq even before he took office, but waited until September 2002 to inform the public, through what the White House termed a “product launch.”
>White House officials used repetition and misinformation - the “big lie” tactic - to create the false impression that Iraq was behind the September 11th terrorist attacks on the United States, especially in the case of the alleged meeting in Prague five months earlier between 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta and Iraqi intelligence officials.
>The “big lie” tactic was also employed in the first Iraq war when a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl named Nayirah told the horrific - but fabricated - story of Iraqi soldiers wrenching hundreds of premature Kuwaiti babies from their incubators and leaving them to die. Her testimony was printed in a press kit prepared by Citizens for a Free Kuwait, a PR front group created by Hill and Knowlton, then the world’s largest PR firm.
>In order to achieve “third party authenticity” in the Muslim world, a group called the Council of American Muslims for Understanding launched its own web site, called OpenDialogue.com. However, its chairman admitted that the idea began with the State Department, and that the group was funded by the U.S. government.
>Forged documents were used to “prove” that Iraq possessed huge stockpiles of banned weapons.
>A secretive PR firm working for the Pentagon helped create the Iraqi National Congress (INC), which became one of the driving forces behind the decision to go to war.
the Bush administration, in an unprecedented admission for them, yesterday quietly acknowledged that the uranium claim in relation to ***** of a potential uranium transfer to Iraq was indeed a false claim.U.S. Uses Deception in Foreign Policy: Is It Any Wonder No One Trusts Usthat Afghanistan, since the U.S. invaded it, is now back to being the largest opium producer -- a dubious distinction for a war that was supposed to wipe out terrorism and drugs. If drugs are the mother’s milk of terrorism, then Bush has allowed Afghanistan to once again become the big cow, as far as funding terrorism is concerned. And yet he’s running ads that say buying marijuana promotes terrorism, and it seems to be a bit hypocritical.
There has been lie after lie in Iraq; even allowing Israeli hit men to come in and do some of the dark-op work for America in killing off Sunni, Shi'a and even Christian leaders. Israelis have been implicated by Christian church leaders in the attacks on Christian churches because of the types and sophistication of the bombs that hit the churches and some mosques. The attacks on Fallujah was justified on the basis of lies, because every expert in the Middle East told America that Zarqawi was not in Fallujah and the religious leaders of the city told the Americans that he'd never been there. Yet, America bombed Fallujah into hell, using lie after lie as American basis for the punitive and immoral strikes on the city.
STOP NEWS FRAUD
http://www.freepress.net/propaganda/=news
“Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive”
The French sat around while "OTHERS" did the fighting.Maybe the French had that same approach, " Nazis are the good guys, we're losers", so they gave up and surrendered.
Sounds just like some ....."flag waving" posters.
Listen to the video clip.
"...not so easy,...not so surgical"
Sam Gardiner: Bush's Secret War on Iran
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
Gardiner thinks that decision has already been made and surmises it could be catastrophic for the Middle East.
I wonder what makes him think he knows *more than all the ..."CEO's" in charge?
Just can't seem to figure out what all these highly "professional" military\ex-military men keep trying to say.
( * Colonel Sam Gardiner is the retired colonel who taught at the National War College, the Air War College and the Naval Warfare College and who found more than 50 instances of demonstrably false stories planted in the press in the run up to the war, back in 2003.)
("he participated in a war game simulating an attack on Iran")
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