New military strikes in Iraq.

[Save Us]

...huh?

See post #3

[WNYresident]

You know I was wondering - we are using American Military supplys in all these areas of the world. Where and how are we buying replacement supplies ?

America has sold out most of or closed down ammunition makers and fire arms producers to foreign companies!

Will there soon be calls from our Government to retool our industries so we can feed all our military needs ?

Wouldn't this at least leave the revenue in our country versus sending our wealth out of the country?

[300miles]

I think it is unrealistic for us to believe we will not be attacked on our own soil. Our border is a joke.

You don't hear about the Swiss, the Danes, The Swedes having these kinds of problems. Since WWII Somebody tell me what good came from our involvement in war, or placing puppet governments or subverting other countries in the world. I'll tell you who benefits, Our creditors (maybe) and the military industrial complex.

Our founding fathers would have advised that we stay out of affairs of others.

I had originally tried to post a longer reply but the site errored out... so I just put "huh" in frustration after losing everything I had typed...

But basically, Europe DOES have these problems, sometimes worse than us if you count them all together ... including the Swedes, Norwegians, and Danes. (maybe not the Swiss)

And regarding the wars after WW2, it would be easy to say they were all for naught, but had we become isolationist after WW2, even just militarily, it's possible the Soviet Union could have overrun the globe, and the world would be a very different place today.

[Sam_Eagle]

So the next logical step would be to secure our borders.

There have been reports of middle eastern men crossing the wide open southern border while our border agents babysit Obama's dreamers. We as a nation are foolish for not securing our own border. You'd have to think ISIS and these other Islamic terrorist organizations have already exploited these gaping holes. Time to militarize the border, if it's not already too late.

A nation without borders is not a nation.

[Save Us]

There have been reports of middle eastern men crossing the wide open southern border while our border agents babysit Obama's dreamers. We as a nation are foolish for not securing our own border. You'd have to think ISIS and these other Islamic terrorist organizations have already exploited these gaping holes. Time to militarize the border, if it's not already too late.

A nation without borders is not a nation.

Just continue to promise everyone US citizenship and see what happens. Now Great Brittain is paying for having the most generous wellfare benefits in all of Europe.. Why not just put a sign on your house that says free room and board.

The French have paid dearly for the muslim influx into parts of Paris where no go zones exist for LE. These people are unwilling to assimilate. Stupid.

[HipKat]

Unless you haven't heard 3,000 ISIS fighters are from the US

Prove it, Rush

[HipKat]

Our founding fathers would have advised that we stay out of affairs of others.

You're right. They were too busy with their slaves to worry about other's affairs

[FMD]

Excuse you Hipkat, but wtf business is it of Americas to meddle in the operations of other nations?

Seriously?

We piss off half the world, we feed the other half, and we let 1/2 our population starve.

Our borders are WIDE OPEN!

And every 'terror suspect' 'caught' since 9/11 has had some tie to the federal govt. Go figure.

[HipKat]

Excuse you Hipkat, but wtf business is it of Americas to meddle in the operations of other nations?

Seriously?

We piss off half the world, we feed the other half, and we let 1/2 our population starve.

Our borders are WIDE OPEN!

And every 'terror suspect' 'caught' since 9/11 has had some tie to the federal govt. Go figure.

I agree, we have no business meddling in other countries affairs, other than to provide aid to people who are starving, and that should begin right here in the US. Believe me, I'm a huge proponent of become more isiolated form the rest of the world's political affairs, but people who refer to "the founding fathers" should accept that the founding fathers were business owners who used slaves to be able to make huge profits at low costs. Hmm, sounds like the business climate today with all the work that's moved overseas, my number 1 pet peeve with this country.

[Save Us]

You're right. They were too busy with their slaves to worry about other's affairs

funny, but not the reason.

You see they were smarter than we are today. Outside of WW2, really, what good have we left in the world militarily? How many military bases do we have in the world?

Why doesn't Sweden have these problems? Because they are not trying to break up every fight on the globe.. much less create chaos when then leave.

[WNYresident]

Just think how much wealthier every individual could be if we weren't spending/wasting the money government does. Locally we have a transfer of wealth from the property owners to supporting members of various political parties and it works it's way up from there.

[HipKat]

funny, but not the reason.

You see they were smarter than we are today. Outside of WW2, really, what good have we left in the world militarily? How many military bases do we have in the world?

Why doesn't Sweden have these problems? Because they are not trying to break up every fight on the globe.. much less create chaos when then leave.

Isn't Sweden a country that thrives on Socialism?

Truth is Sweden is comparable to an American State more than a country. They don't have the economy we have although I get your point and I agree with it

[300miles]

Why doesn't Sweden have these problems? Because they are not trying to break up every fight on the globe.. much less create chaos when then leave.

It's not that simple. Places like Sweden exist the way they do because countries like the USA exist the way they do. Had the USA chose a path like Sweden 100 years ago the world would be a much different place and neither US or Sweden might be enjoying any of it today. You can't pick and choose bits and pieces of how the world turned out.

[Save Us]

My point gentlemen is that you can have a strong social welfare network or have a strong force projection military.

We are going broke trying to do both,, actually we are borrowing money to do both. Call whatever form of government it is or is not..if you are broke it really doesn't matter. We simply cannot afford what we are doing....Now we may be working with Assad...when a few months ago idiot McCain wanted cruise missiles over there..Sometimes dictators are better than what follows a power vacuum.

We try to solve problems in the world that cannot be solved. When we have more than enough of our own problems at home. Our wars are not stimulating our economy like in WW2 , they are breaking us.

Just look at where we are ranked in the world with regard to issues of quality of life among industrialized societies....that's another clue to what I am talking about. Eventually we will be as poor as those we are helping. The one's we are helping don't have the ability to prosper like post war Germany, Japan etc.