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    Im truly sorry to see hillary and obama running. Call me cynical and hey I might have to eat my words on this one but I dont think either has a shot.

    I doubt a women or a minority will be elected president in my lifetime
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    I definitely wont elect McCain, that just asking for Bush policies to continue

    I definitely wont elect McCain, that just asking for Bush policies to continue

    perpetuations of Iraq, Afghanistan
    expansions into Iran, North Korea, Syria

    while ignoring currency manipulations and unfair trade by countries like China

    while ignoring trade practices that support off-shoring, out-sourcing

    while ignoring illegal immigration

    nope, I would vote for Hillary before I vote for McCain

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    Quote Originally Posted by atotaltotalfan2001
    I'll always appreciate that she tried to put together a universal health care plan for this country. She was viciously attacked for it -- and, wouldn't you know it, all these years later more people than ever are without health care plans.
    If I remember correctly no one elected her to office at the time she had her "Secret Health Plan." The anti-health lobby and the secrecy of her health plan caused her health plan to fail.

    How is the Canadian Health Care Plan working? Need I say more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna
    If I remember correctly no one elected her to office at the time she had her "Secret Health Plan." The anti-health lobby and the secrecy of her health plan caused her health plan to fail.

    How is the Canadian Health Care Plan working? Need I say more.

    Not too bad, but not too good. But is sure as hell is better than nothing, and I would wager it is better than Medicaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northshore
    Not too bad, but not too good. But it sure as hell is better than nothing, and I would wager it is better than Medicaid.
    Isn't it cheaper than Medicaid as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna
    If I remember correctly no one elected her to office at the time she had her "Secret Health Plan." The anti-health lobby and the secrecy of her health plan caused her health plan to fail.

    How is the Canadian Health Care Plan working? Need I say more.
    Hmmmm. So, because she was not elected, that was a perfectly good reason to reject the universal health care plan she and her vast group of experts came up with?

    Funny. All these years later, the number of people without health care are more numerous than Hillary probably every dreamed could be possible -- and yet she is still villified for trying to help.

    The Candanian Health Care system has its problems, but not among them are people with life threatening illnesses who can't find an emergency room that will take them or a hospital that will keep them until they are stabilized.

    Want elective surgery? You'll just have to wait for that nose job a while in Canada. Otherwise, your routine medical care is there for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atotaltotalfan2001
    Hmmmm. So, because she was not elected, that was a perfectly good reason to reject the universal health care plan she and her vast group of experts came up with?.
    Her vast group of secret "experts". A cabal that tried to keep itself hidden from public view.

    Kind of like Volker and Tokascz holding secret budget meetings with the Democrats in the Erie County Legislature in the Winter of 2005.

    Strange how the Dems instinctively resort to secretive, Stalinist tactics as soon as they grasp the reins of power. Becoming hostile to open and democratic processes.

    BTW-It was that bastion of truth and liberty, The Wall Street Journal, which finally published the full list of the names of Ms. Rodham-Clinton's secretive co-conspirators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biker
    Her vast group of secret "experts". A cabal that tried to keep itself hidden from public view.

    Kind of like Volker and Tokascz holding secret budget meetings with the Democrats in the Erie County Legislature in the Winter of 2005.

    Strange how the Dems instinctively resort to secretive, Stalinist tactics as soon as they grasp the reins of power. Becoming hostile to open and democratic processes.

    BTW-It was that bastion of truth and liberty, The Wall Street Journal, which finally published the full list of the names of Ms. Rodham-Clinton's secretive co-conspirators.
    Ewwww....I hate to say this, but I agree with you about the way Hillary et al when about it.

    But it cracks me up that you would think the Dems can even resort to being secretive about such things. Jeeze, that requires way too much of the Dems, who are a fractious lot. ONLY the GOP knows how to keep real secrets, which is what makes that political party so scary and such a danger to our country. In my opinion, of course, dear .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCRIDER
    This didn't hurt Bill Clinton at all. Do you think Guillani will be able to dance around this topic like slick Willie did?
    You miss my point, I have no axe to grind with Guillani, as far as I know he did a good job cleaning up NY, but then Im a moderate. Im talking about the support he would recieve from his own party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biker
    Her vast group of secret "experts". A cabal that tried to keep itself hidden from public view.

    Kind of like Volker and Tokascz holding secret budget meetings with the Democrats in the Erie County Legislature in the Winter of 2005.

    Strange how the Dems instinctively resort to secretive, Stalinist tactics as soon as they grasp the reins of power. Becoming hostile to open and democratic processes.

    BTW-It was that bastion of truth and liberty, The Wall Street Journal, which finally published the full list of the names of Ms. Rodham-Clinton's secretive co-conspirators.
    Hmmm ... just what "Stalinist tactics" are the Democrats resorting to, biker? Please define -- or are they so "secretive" you don't know what they are but since some Right Wingnut makes says they're resorting to them, it must be so?

    It also seems to me a certain GOP POTUS and his cronies -- oops, I mean, appointees -- advocate the use of torture, the suspension of habeas corpus, and warrantless wire taps, which are far more "Stalinist" than anything the Dems propose.

    BTW, how about a link -- or is that too secret?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna
    If I remember correctly no one elected her to office at the time she had her "Secret Health Plan." The anti-health lobby and the secrecy of her health plan caused her health plan to fail.

    How is the Canadian Health Care Plan working? Need I say more.
    Actually American Business Executives like Canadian Health Care and are will to pay for it. It's a reason why U.S. companies have no problem relocating to Canada.

    U.S. Business Execs: Like National Health IN Canada
    By Phil Dowd, VP and Director, Royal Lepage Commercial


    Still not convinced that Canada is one of the best places to do business? Ask the president of a U.S. subsidiary operating in Canada.

    What do Rod Dobson of ADP Canada, Wendy Bocti of Mellon Bank of Canada, and Gary McMillan of AIG Canada have in common? They are all presidents of Canadian subsidiaries of U.S. companies and participants in Project Eagle, a unique private-sector initiative helping promote U.S. investment in Canada. They all view Canada as a hospitable environment in which to do business — not only to serve the Canadian market, but also as a base for global operations. And through Project Eagle, they are helping to spread the word about Canada's competitive advantages: from low business and R&D costs and availability of first-class knowledge workers to easy access to North American and global markets...

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    Canada's Advantages
    In this highly competitive business environment, Canada is a strong contender. Canada was ranked by The Economist as the number-one country in which to do business in the next five years (see article on page 43). In addition, according to a recent study by A.T. Kearney on selecting a country for offshore business processing, Canada ranked second in the world — even compared to low-cost countries in Asia, Eastern Europe, and Latin America — because of its superior employee-retention rates, markedly superior infrastructure, low economic and political risk, business processing experience, and proximity to the United States. Accordingly, numerous global companies have selected Canada as an offshore location, including BP Amoco, Allmerica, Siemens, and HP Compaq.
    In fact, HP Compaq is reported by Kearney to have realized up to 15 percent cost savings by locating five call centers in Canada. A factor in Compaq's decision was the highly specialized work force management technology of Canadian call centers, used by less than 12 percent of the call centers in the United States, which can automate scheduling and help drive sales.
    Other benefits Canada offers include a culturally diverse population with the education and linguistic skills U.S. companies need to service global markets, high standards of business integrity and corporate conduct, and similar business and legal cultures — and all this in America's backyard. A Canadian location can meets the needs of U.S. corporations, without some of the drawbacks of more distant locations, such as political and economic instability, cultural and linguistic differences, and unreliable infrastructure. Putting it all together means, as it was succinctly put by a senior executive at Cendant Corp., "Canada is the sweet spot."

    ...Business leaders participating in the roundtable concluded that integration will continue, but also recognized that some differences will remain. It is illuminating that two major differences — Canada's public healthcare system and the smaller scale of Canada's economy — were perceived by many as advantages. Public stewardship of health in Canada results in significant cost savings for U.S. companies operating in Canada, whereas Canada's smaller scale can provide a broader range of experiences to business managers, which explains why many U.S. companies use Canada as a proving ground for senior executives.


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    Ive read the same thing in many different venues & I concur

    Ive read the same thing in many different venues & I concur

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewrona
    Actually American Business Executives like Canadian Health Care and are will to pay for it. It's a reason why U.S. companies have no problem relocating to Canada.

    U.S. Business Execs: Like National Health IN Canada
    By Phil Dowd, VP and Director, Royal Lepage Commercial


    Still not convinced that Canada is one of the best places to do business? Ask the president of a U.S. subsidiary operating in Canada.

    What do Rod Dobson of ADP Canada, Wendy Bocti of Mellon Bank of Canada, and Gary McMillan of AIG Canada have in common? They are all presidents of Canadian subsidiaries of U.S. companies and participants in Project Eagle, a unique private-sector initiative helping promote U.S. investment in Canada. They all view Canada as a hospitable environment in which to do business — not only to serve the Canadian market, but also as a base for global operations. And through Project Eagle, they are helping to spread the word about Canada's competitive advantages: from low business and R&D costs and availability of first-class knowledge workers to easy access to North American and global markets...

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    Canada's Advantages
    In this highly competitive business environment, Canada is a strong contender. Canada was ranked by The Economist as the number-one country in which to do business in the next five years (see article on page 43). In addition, according to a recent study by A.T. Kearney on selecting a country for offshore business processing, Canada ranked second in the world — even compared to low-cost countries in Asia, Eastern Europe, and Latin America — because of its superior employee-retention rates, markedly superior infrastructure, low economic and political risk, business processing experience, and proximity to the United States. Accordingly, numerous global companies have selected Canada as an offshore location, including BP Amoco, Allmerica, Siemens, and HP Compaq.
    In fact, HP Compaq is reported by Kearney to have realized up to 15 percent cost savings by locating five call centers in Canada. A factor in Compaq's decision was the highly specialized work force management technology of Canadian call centers, used by less than 12 percent of the call centers in the United States, which can automate scheduling and help drive sales.
    Other benefits Canada offers include a culturally diverse population with the education and linguistic skills U.S. companies need to service global markets, high standards of business integrity and corporate conduct, and similar business and legal cultures — and all this in America's backyard. A Canadian location can meets the needs of U.S. corporations, without some of the drawbacks of more distant locations, such as political and economic instability, cultural and linguistic differences, and unreliable infrastructure. Putting it all together means, as it was succinctly put by a senior executive at Cendant Corp., "Canada is the sweet spot."

    ...Business leaders participating in the roundtable concluded that integration will continue, but also recognized that some differences will remain. It is illuminating that two major differences — Canada's public healthcare system and the smaller scale of Canada's economy — were perceived by many as advantages. Public stewardship of health in Canada results in significant cost savings for U.S. companies operating in Canada, whereas Canada's smaller scale can provide a broader range of experiences to business managers, which explains why many U.S. companies use Canada as a proving ground for senior executives.


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    The main reason companies locate in an another country is to make money.
    If the health costs for the company is lower that is a plus for moving.
    The question is the Canadian health plan may be good for Canadian companies but is it good for the Canadian citizen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewrona
    Actually American Business Executives like Canadian Health Care and are will to pay for it. It's a reason why U.S. companies have no problem relocating to Canada.
    This statement is false. US companies are not relocating, but as they open up other branches (subsidiaries) in foriegn countries.

    U.S. Business Execs: Like National Health IN Canada
    By Phil Dowd, VP and Director, Royal Lepage Commercial
    From a companies perspective, sure they would like it as it is cheaper for the company. They pay less for health benifits becasue the Canadian gov't takes care of it.

    On the other hand, it is not as good for the workers, as they hav to wait for services for a lot of the services being offered.

    That is why many canadians, who can afford it, come to the US to get certain procedures done. No waiting 6 to 12 months, etc.

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    but mike, I dont think we would get a complete copy of the canadian system

    but mike, I dont think we would get a complete copy of the canadian system

    Im guessing some sort of combination of universal coverage and private insurance. Universal coverage for basic care, emergency and disability, but private coverage for other areas.....and probably some sort of deductible based on income and mandatory coverage/participation......

    republicans wont go for a canadian system
    democrats wont go for the existing private system,

    companies cant afford it and to many people un-insured so its going to have to be bi-partisan and a blend of universal coverage and private coverage.

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