Would the election have been a landslide if Obama were white?

[Dumbfounded]

We're a shallow people and racism is alive and well.
That being said-
If Obama were white, with the same message & promises to the voters
would he have beat McCain by a landslide?
Or
Would the vote count have been about the same?

Be honest.

[FMD]

Eh, regardless if he was, black, white blue or red, i still would not have voted for the man. He is a socialist, thruogh and thruogh. And while I do not agree with his veiws, I HOPE he does NOT succeed with HIS plans for our country. We need a president which is going to follow our constitution and Bill of Rights to the T and repeal any and all laws, actions, motions, prgrams, and subsidies which dont go along with those two documents..

So, I do HOPE Obama FAILS. Because Obama stands for socialism. and removing our illusion of rights.


Right now, we as americans have no rights. We have an ILLUSION of rights. Obama wants to REMOVE that illusion.

Also, I have found that MOST black people are racist than whites. Maybe they are not, but black people, often SHOW racism more so than whites do, in my experience.

[Truthdetector]

I think that you already know the answer. The fact that Obama was black (half black) definitely brought out a new group of voters that for years sat back and did not vote. I will look into finding out how many new voters registered to vote before this historic election. I am afraid that this new election will cause a ripple effect that is going to change the way election platforms are staged. Is this the change that Obama promised?

[atotaltotalfan2001]

We're a shallow people and racism is alive and well.
That being said-
If Obama were white, with the same message & promises to the voters
would he have beat McCain by a landslide?
Or
Would the vote count have been about the same?

Be honest.

To be honest, what is the point of this thread? I really hope SU isn't going to be dominated again by a bunch of purposely inflammatory race-related posts. Don't we have more important things to deal with right now? Like our retirement savings dwindling to next to nothing? Like hanging onto our jobs? Our health insurance? Our sanity?

How about paying our exorbitant -- and still growing -- tax bills? Our utility bills? Saving a region that's already on life support?

With all that's going on around us, I don't know why some of you guys are so obsessed with race .....

[Dougles]

We're a shallow people and racism is alive and well.
That being said-
If Obama were white, with the same message & promises to the voters
would he have beat McCain by a landslide?
Or
Would the vote count have been about the same?

Be honest.

be honset? If he was white, he never would have beat Hillary therefor would have never ran against McCain.

Hell if he was white, he never would have been elected to the Ill. Senate Seat because he never would have gotten endorsed by Opra!

[Truthdetector]

As number of new voters swells, so do fears that they won't be counted
BY KENNETH R. BAZINET and GREG B. SMITH
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Saturday, November 1st 2008, 1:51 AM

A huge surge of new voters could swamp the nation's ill-prepared election systems, creating major headaches and possible vote challenges Tuesday, officials are warning.

A stunning 184 million citizens have registered to vote for this election, the National Association of Secretaries of State announced Friday.

That's a 28% jump over the 143 million registered to vote in the 2004 presidential election.

[atotaltotalfan2001]

As number of new voters swells, so do fears that they won't be counted
BY KENNETH R. BAZINET and GREG B. SMITH
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Saturday, November 1st 2008, 1:51 AM

A huge surge of new voters could swamp the nation's ill-prepared election systems, creating major headaches and possible vote challenges Tuesday, officials are warning.

A stunning 184 million citizens have registered to vote for this election, the National Association of Secretaries of State announced Friday.

That's a 28% jump over the 143 million registered to vote in the 2004 presidential election.

And that's a bad thing?

[Dumbfounded]

To be honest, what is the point of this thread? I really hope SU isn't going to be dominated again by a bunch of purposely inflammatory race-related posts. Don't we have more important things to deal with right now? Like our retirement savings dwindling to next to nothing? Like hanging onto our jobs? Our health insurance? Our sanity?

How about paying our exorbitant -- and still growing -- tax bills? Our utility bills? Saving a region that's already on life support?

With all that's going on around us, I don't know why some of you guys are so obsessed with race .....

The "purpose?!"
Obama BARELY beat McCain and Palin, both who aren't that sharp

and

of course Obama may turn out to be just another traitor and/or puppet but I'm giving the guy the benefit of the doubt for now (for what THAT'S worth).

[Truthdetector]

ATTF - Don't be so quick to judge. Wait until you see the breakdown of where the new voters come from. ACORN was a busy group, and was selective in who they assisted in order to sway numbers.

[Truthdetector]

When Obama and friends started the whole "change" thing what did you think that they were talking about? Their election platform was built to obtain votes from a large group of non-voters. The only way to get that group of non-voters out was to give them a face they could associate with. Whether you like it or not racism played a large part in this election. It didn't help that Bush was, well, Bush, but the fact that Obama was non-typical changed forever the way government elections will be run. Does anyone remember what the election numbers were for Buffalo's current mayor?

[Allgirl4BD]

My opinion only. I think race was definitely a factor. If he were white I doubt he would have been elected. Clever campaigning. Did you see the clip on Meet the Press whre he stated some years ago that he was not running for president in 2008?

I watched alot of TV during this campaign and feel the television networks played a huge role in getting Obama elected. All talk shows and network coverage displayed Obama as a "good guy". Any talk on the networks about McCain was always negative. At times I felt the media was manipulating the election.

Money and publicity go hand in hand don't they?

McCain didn't stand a chance. It was all about "change", I guess. Has anything changed,by the way?

I did not vote for Obama but have hope he will do a good job for us as our president in these extremely difficult times.

[atotaltotalfan2001]

The "purpose?!"
Obama BARELY beat McCain and Palin, both who aren't that sharp

and

of course Obama may turn out to be just another traitor and/or puppet but I'm giving the guy the benefit of the doubt for now (for what THAT'S worth).

Still don't understand the purpose. I would have thought you guys would be over Obama's election by now, and whatever role his race played in that.

Like I said, it's a weird thing to obsess on given all the other things we have to worry about. I guess I'd say it's time to move on, IMO, of course.

But that's okay. The great thing here is that I just don't need to read the messages. So far, they're not expressing anything that hasn't been expressed TO DEATH already anyway. Just more of the same...

[Allgirl4BD]

When Obama and friends started the whole "change" thing what did you think that they were talking about? Their election platform was built to obtain votes from a large group of non-voters. The only way to get that group of non-voters out was to give them a face they could associate with. Whether you like it or not racism played a large part in this election. It didn't help that Bush was, well, Bush, but the fact that Obama was non-typical changed forever the way government elections will be run. Does anyone remember what the election numbers were for Buffalo's current mayor?

Well put! Voter registration in Nashville went way up for this presidential election.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

Still don't understand the purpose. I would have thought you guys would be over Obama's election by now, and whatever role his race played in that.

Like I said, it's a weird thing to obsess on given all the other things we have to worry about. I guess I'd say it's time to move on, IMO, of course.

But that's okay. The great thing here is that I just don't need to read the messages. So far, they're not expressing anything that hasn't been expressed TO DEATH already anyway. Just more of the same...

While I agree that this is crying over spilled milk, the same thing happened for the last 8 years with President Bush.

Hell, some people are still obsessing over President Bush and the LAST Presidency. So while you may not read or participate in threads about the election of President Obama....are you saying the same thing when people still ignorantly blame EVERYTHING on Bush?

[atotaltotalfan2001]

While I agree that this is crying over spilled milk, the same thing happened for the last 8 years with President Bush.

Hell, some people are still obsessing over President Bush and the LAST Presidency. So while you may not read or participate in threads about the election of President Obama....are you saying the same thing when people still ignorantly blame EVERYTHING on Bush?

Yes, I never thought it was fair to blame everything on Bush, although I admit I really disliked him. I mean, really, really disliked him. And when he was still in office, I found it hard to give him credit for anything, but because I felt if I gave an inch, the reactionaries would take a mile, and pound me a lot along the way.

So, I'm glad the intensity of those years has let up a little, at least for now.