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    Behavior.. Could part of the problems be food?

    I came across this dietary program that many parents have had success with for behavioral issues. It's called the Feingold Diet.

    Many learning and behavior
    problems begin in your
    grocery cart!

    Did you know that the brand of ice cream, cookie,
    and potato chip you select could have a direct effect
    on the behavior, health, and ability to learn for you or
    your children?
    Numerous studies show that certain synthetic food additives can have serious learning, behavior, and/or health effects for sensitive people.

    The Feingold Program (also known as the Feingold Diet) is a test to determine if certain foods or food additives are triggering particular symptoms. It is basically the way people used to eat before "hyperactivity" and "ADHD" became household words, and before asthma and chronic ear infections became so very common.

    ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) is the term currently used to describe a cluster of symptoms typical of the child (or adult) who has excessive activity or difficulty focusing. Some of the names that have been used in the past include: Minimal Brain Damage, Minimal Brain Dysfunction (MBD), Hyperkinesis, Learning Disability, H-LD (Hyperkinesis/Learning Disability), Hyperactivity, Attention Deficit Disorder, ADD With or Without Hyperactivity.

    In addition to ADHD, many children and adults also exhibit one or more other problems which may include: OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder), Bi-polar Disorder, Depression, Tourette Syndrome (TS), and Developmental Delays. These people often have food or environmental allergies. Many have a history of one or more of these physical problems: ear infections, asthma, sinus problems, bedwetting, bowel disorders, headaches/migraines, stomachaches, skin disorders, sensory deficits (extreme sensitivity to noise, lights, touch), vision deficits (the left and right eyes do not work well together, sometimes nystagmus).

    While all the above symptoms might be helped by the Feingold Program, generally the characteristic that responds most readily is behavior. Although the symptoms differ from one person to another, the one characteristic that seems to apply to all chemically-sensitive people is that they get upset too easily. Whether the person is 3-years-old or 33, they have a short fuse.

    Dr. Feingold began his work on linking diet with behavior back in the 1960's. He soon saw that the conventional wisdom about this condition was not accurate. At that time most doctors believed that children outgrew hyperactivity, that only one child in a family would be hyperactive, and that girls were seldom affected. Parents using the Feingold Diet also saw that these beliefs were not accurate. Years later, the medical community revised their beliefs, as well.

    Another change in the medical community has been the increased use of medicine to address ADHD. In the 1960's and 1970's medicine was used with restraint, generally discontinued after a few years, and never prescribed to very young children. If there was a history of tics or other neurological disorders in a family member, a child would not be give stimulant drugs. The Feingold Association does not oppose the use of medicine, but believes that practitioners should first look for the cause(s) of the problems, rather than only address the symptoms. For example, ADHD can be the result of exposure to lead or other heavy metals; in such a case, the logical treatment would be to remove the lead, arsenic, etc.

    The Feingold Association believes that patients have a right to be given complete, accurate information on all of the options available in the treatment of ADHD as well as other conditions. Sometimes, the best results come from a combination of treatments. This might include using the Feingold Diet plus allergy treatments, or plus nutritional supplements, or plus a gluten-free/casein-free diet, or even Feingold + ADHD medicine. We believe that it's useful to start with the Feingold Diet since it is fairly easy to use, not expensive, and because removing certain synthetic additives is a good idea for anyone.

    Used originally as a diet for allergies, improvement in behavior and attention was first noticed as a "side effect." It is a reasonable first step to take before (or with if already begun) drug treatment for any of the symptoms listed on the Symptoms page.

    The Feingold Program eliminates these additives:

    * Artificial (synthetic) coloring
    * Artificial (synthetic) flavoring
    * Aspartame (Nutrasweet, an artificial sweetener)
    * Artificial (synthetic) preservatives BHA, BHT, TBHQ

    In the beginning (Stage One) of the Feingold Program, aspirin and some foods containing salicylate (Suh-LIH-Suh-Late) are eliminated. Salicylate is a group of chemicals related to aspirin. There are several kinds of salicylate, which plants make as a natural pesticide to protect themselves. Those that are eliminated are listed in the salicylate list which is included also in the Program Handbook. Most people can eventually tolerate at least some of these salicylates.

    You will notice this dietary program is often referred to as a program because fragrances and non-food items which contain the chemicals listed above are also eliminated.

    Where do food dyes come from?

    Those pretty colors that make the "fruit punch" red, the gelatin green and the oatmeal blue are made from petroleum (crude oil) which is also the source for gasoline.

    You will find them on the ingredient labels, listed as "Yellow No. 5," "Red 40," "Blue #1," etc. The label may say "FD&C" before the number. That means "Food, Drug & Cosmetics." When you see a number listed as "D&C" in a product, such as "D&C Red #33" it means that this coloring is considered safe for medicine (drugs) and cosmetics, but not for food. See more about colorings.

    What are artificial flavorings?

    They are combinations of many chemicals, both natural and synthetic. An artificial flavoring may be composed of hundreds of separate chemicals, and there is no restriction on what a company can use to flavor food.

    One source for imitation vanilla flavoring (called "vanillin") is the waste product of paper mills. Some companies built factories next to the pulp mills to turn the undesirable by-product into imitation flavoring, widely used in many cookies, candies and other foods. See more about food dyes and flavorings.

    What are BHA, BHT and TBHQ?

    Those initials stand for three major preservatives found in many foods, especially in the United States. Like the dyes, they are made from petroleum (crude oil). Often, they are not listed in the ingredients.

    These chemicals may be listed as "anti-oxidants" because they prevent the fats in foods from "oxidizing" or becoming rancid (spoiling). There are many natural, beneficial anti-oxidants, but they are much more expensive than the synthetic versions.

    There are other undesirable food additives (MSG, sodium benzoate, nitrites, sulfites, to name a few) but most of the additives used in foods have not been found to be as big a problem as those listed above. See more about these preservatives.

    Food additives are not new.

    Artificial colors have been around for more than 100 years. (Originally they were made from coal tar oil.) And children have been eating artificially colored and flavored products for decades.

    But then . . . most children ate these additives infrequently. They got an occasional lollipop from the bank or barber shop. Cotton candy was found at the circus. Jelly beans were given at Easter, orange cupcakes at Halloween and candy canes at Christmas.

    Today . . . the typical child growing up in the United States is exposed to these powerful chemicals all day, every day.
    “Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”

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    What the child growing up in the U.S. in the 1940's got:
    White toothpaste
    Oatmeal
    Corn flakes
    Toast & butter, jam
    Cocoa made with natural ingredients
    Whipped cream
    No vitamins (or perhaps cod liver oil)
    White powder or bad-tasting liquid medicine
    Sample school lunch:
    Meat loaf, freshly made mashed potatoes, vegetable. Milk, cupcake made from scratch.
    Sample school beverage:
    Water from the drinking fountain
    Candy in the classroom a few times a year at class parties.

    What the child growing up in the U.S. today gets:
    Multi-colored toothpaste, perhaps with sparkles
    Sea Treasures Instant Oatmeal (turns milk blue)
    Fruity Pebbles
    Pop Tarts
    Cocoa made with artificial flavoring, & some with dyes.
    Cool Whip
    Flintstone vitamins with coloring & flavoring
    Bright pink, bubble-gum flavored chewable or liquid medicine
    Sample school lunch:
    Highly processed foods loaded with synthetic additives, no vegetable. Chocolate milk with artificial flavor.
    Sample school beverage:
    Soft drink with artificial color, flavor, caffeine, aspartame, etc.
    Candy (with synthetic additives) given frequently.
    This is really interesting because most of these behavioral problems have no been seen on such a wide scale until recently. Also many kids can consume this stuff and be fine. It's like an allergic reaction for some kids that affect behavior.
    “Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”

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    A major study was published in the American Association of Physicians Assistants that showed no difference in Organic vs Non Organic meat and produce with regard to nutritional value..

    Yes you read that right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    A major study was published in the American Association of Physicians Assistants that showed no difference in Organic vs Non Organic meat and produce with regard to nutritional value..

    Yes you read that right.
    Even if the nutritional values were the same you outta know stupid things
    like how ALL non-organic beef and poultry are pumped full of steroids, antibiotics and growth hormones to make em' juicy, plump & poisonous!

    Children are developing at an earlier age thanks to the Growth Hormone in milk & meat,
    and the main reason so many of us have become more resistant to antibiotics is the antibiotics in meat and dairy products
    and NOT hand soaps and other antibiotic ointments.

    Healthy meat is free range, grass-fed;Organic. Fact.


    An increasing number of fruits & vegetables have been GENETICALLY ENGINEERED and are no where NEAR as healthy as organically-grown produce.

    And for both children and adults, FOOD ALLERGIES are the cause of MANY physical and/or behavioral problems.

    Here's one example: Allergies to ketchup: Some kids and adults with highly aggressive behavior tested by food allergists were found to be allergic to ketchup and once they stopped using ketchup, not only did they become different people-It was commonplace for their IQs to increase.

    The human body-Hell ANY animal's physiology was NOT designed to process the SYNTHETICS WE'RE BOMBARDED with in our food and water.

    The flood of cheap, refined carbohydrates, the trans-fat filled foods, the BAD saturated fats (there ARE good ones), the colorings, binders, fillers and taste enhancers among other poisons in food (among other ingredients) damned well DO adversely affect both our physical and mental health. FACT.
    Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys.

    Emma Bull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    A major study was published in the American Association of Physicians Assistants that showed no difference in Organic vs Non Organic meat and produce with regard to nutritional value..

    Yes you read that right.
    Did you know about 90% of ALL organic foods are produced by Corp farms RIGHT NEXT to where they produce their regular products?
    "I know you guys enjoy reading my stuff because it all makes sense. "

    Dumbest post ever! Thanks for the laugh PO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    Did you know about 90% of ALL organic foods are produced by Corp farms RIGHT NEXT to where they produce their regular products?
    The REAL organic foods that have NO additives, preservatives, colorings, binders, flavor enhancers and other crap are WAY SAFER compared to the
    cheaper "fake" foods most of us eat
    and I wish to bloody hell that I could AFFORD ALL ORGANIC food!

    Because from what I've heard, you literally feel much healthier eating organic in conjunction with pure, filtered NON-FLUORIDATED water,
    NO refined carbohydrates (white bread, rice, candy ect) of any kinds IS a much better way to live
    BUT its EXPENSIVE, although ideally, eating and drinking safe, healthy food SHOULD be CHEAP.

    So when you see all these ginormous kids, people with backsides bigger than a truck, when you read about the SPIKE in childhood Diabetes and early onset of all kids of adult diseases, you should wonder,

    "gee, think it might be something in the food?"
    Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys.

    Emma Bull

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    Penn and Teller just did a Bull****! episode on this!

    they had nutritionists, food experts, and organics all on the same show.

    key takeaways, there is no scientific eveidence that non-organic food is bad, or that the hormones in meat it bad etc etc etc

    In a blind taste test, self described organic eaters chose non-organinc fruits over organic fruits in a taste test.

    the religion is so strong that when served 2 halves of the same banana, and being told one was organic they all said it was distinctively better on the organic side of the same banana

    oh yeah and if we went entirely organic methods millions would die of starvation

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokes View Post
    Penn and Teller just did a Bull****! episode on this!

    they had nutritionists, food experts, and organics all on the same show.

    key takeaways, there is no scientific eveidence that non-organic food is bad, or that the hormones in meat it bad etc etc etc

    In a blind taste test, self described organic eaters chose non-organinc fruits over organic fruits in a taste test.

    the religion is so strong that when served 2 halves of the same banana, and being told one was organic they all said it was distinctively better on the organic side of the same banana

    oh yeah and if we went entirely organic methods millions would die of starvation
    Penn and Teller are well-known bought & paid for lackeys;Schills for the far Right and will say anything they're told;Just saying that I believe what Penn & Teller spout as much as I believe Rush, O' Reilly or yes, even Laura Ingram and Glenn Beck.

    OK. I WILL agree with you on the taste-test for the most part but the synthetics our foods are filled with are toxic to the body;NOT "New Age" flake talk especially since Monsanto, Con Agra & other corporate trash put profit too far before people.
    Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys.

    Emma Bull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    Did you know about 90% of ALL organic foods are produced by Corp farms RIGHT NEXT to where they produce their regular products?

    Go watch King Corn. I think that was the title. I just watched it last night.

    Because from what I've heard, you literally feel much healthier eating organic in conjunction with pure, filtered NON-FLUORIDATED water,
    I had a salt water reef tank for years. I couldn't use tap water for the mix even if it sat for the clorine/flouride to gas out. I had to use a R/O filter/Carbon to remove what ever was in the water first. Even though the tank is gone we still use the filter for all drinking water etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbfounded View Post
    Even if the nutritional values were the same you outta know stupid things
    like how ALL non-organic beef and poultry are pumped full of steroids, antibiotics and growth hormones to make em' juicy, plump & poisonous!

    Children are developing at an earlier age thanks to the Growth Hormone in milk & meat,
    and the main reason so many of us have become more resistant to antibiotics is the antibiotics in meat and dairy products
    and NOT hand soaps and other antibiotic ointments.

    Healthy meat is free range, grass-fed;Organic. Fact.


    An increasing number of fruits & vegetables have been GENETICALLY ENGINEERED and are no where NEAR as healthy as organically-grown produce.

    And for both children and adults, FOOD ALLERGIES are the cause of MANY physical and/or behavioral problems.

    Here's one example: Allergies to ketchup: Some kids and adults with highly aggressive behavior tested by food allergists were found to be allergic to ketchup and once they stopped using ketchup, not only did they become different people-It was commonplace for their IQs to increase.

    The human body-Hell ANY animal's physiology was NOT designed to process the SYNTHETICS WE'RE BOMBARDED with in our food and water.

    The flood of cheap, refined carbohydrates, the trans-fat filled foods, the BAD saturated fats (there ARE good ones), the colorings, binders, fillers and taste enhancers among other poisons in food (among other ingredients) damned well DO adversely affect both our physical and mental health. FACT.
    the study which in my opinion was very credible only addressed the nutrition aspects

    not the effects of hormones, antibiotics etc
    or the aspects of "humane" farming
    or sustainable agriculture

    all/some of which could be strong considerations for some folks

    The point is that people will spend more for organic because they think the produce is nutritionally superior...it is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    A major study was published in the American Association of Physicians Assistants that showed no difference in Organic vs Non Organic meat and produce with regard to nutritional value..

    Yes you read that right.
    non-organic fruits and vegetables are still better than no fruits and vegetables. That is of course if they are fresh.

    The hormones in meats/poultry and dairy are affecting our children's development in some ways. For example children are hitting puberty at a way younger age than they were 20 years ago. Life expectancy is older so children should be hitting puberty at an older age but they aren't.

    Also percousius(sp) puberty which means puberty before age 8 basically happens more in black girls than any other demographics because of the products they use in their hair, they have hormones in them. That's only being used topical and not ingested, so what's that tell ya.
    “Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”

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    The thing is you don't nessacarily have to go organic to have a diet that will help behavioral issues. For example you can just buy natural foods instead of junk. Dyes in food is a big problem causer.

    Do you know blue and yellow dyes are what you need to watch out for? Especially blue, they use the same dye for blue in foods as they use to dye your jeans.
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    Because from what I've heard, you literally feel much healthier eating organic in conjunction with pure, filtered NON-FLUORIDATED water,
    NO refined carbohydrates (white bread, rice, candy ect) of any kinds IS a much better way to live
    BUT its EXPENSIVE, although ideally, eating and drinking safe, healthy food SHOULD be CHEAP.
    Non refined carbs aren't that much more expensive if you know where to go and clip coupons. There is a bread outlet at the corner of clinton and harlem, buy in bulk and you save quite a bit. Also if you stalk up on stuff when it's on sale that helps too.

    What I am trying to figure out a way to get cheaper natural cosmetics products for the kids (shampoo, conditioner and soaps). I haven't figured out a way to afford that stuff without stretching the budget.

    People don't think about it, but the topical items affect us too. Even when your pregnant and you get a rash or something you can only use certain creams and things.
    “Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by DomesticatedFeminist View Post
    non-organic fruits and vegetables are still better than no fruits and vegetables. That is of course if they are fresh.

    The hormones in meats/poultry and dairy are affecting our children's development in some ways. For example children are hitting puberty at a way younger age than they were 20 years ago. Life expectancy is older so children should be hitting puberty at an older age but they aren't.

    Also percousius(sp) puberty which means puberty before age 8 basically happens more in black girls than any other demographics because of the products they use in their hair, they have hormones in them. That's only being used topical and not ingested, so what's that tell ya.
    Take a look at the relationship of weight and puberty, and also correlate to the weight trends in children over the 20 year period you are referring to.

    Food is responsible, however not because of hormones, but because we stuff too much of it down our and our childrens pie holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokes View Post
    Take a look at the relationship of weight and puberty, and also correlate to the weight trends in children over the 20 year period you are referring to.

    Food is responsible, however not because of hormones, but because we stuff too much of it down our and our childrens pie holes.
    Look at the types of food though, additive, chemicals, etc etc. compare the calorie content of a bag of chips to a bag of baby carrots. Both cost the same and carrots fill you up. Those empty foods only leave you hungry for more. Plus kids drinking pop. Then they eat to many pastry type foods too. Fruits for sweets, occasionally ice cream, no problem.
    Kids need to eat allot to grow but they need to eat what;s good for them. Also they should eat consistently throughout the day. Otherwise they will binge later. Lean protein, good carbs and fruits and veggies are they way to go. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with little indulgences but just don't go overboard.
    I do not let me kids have pop EVER, i have even gotten into arguments with my mother over it. I also stop giving them ANYTHING with blue dye.
    I swear give a kid a danimal yogurt smoothies and watch their pupils grow.
    I'm not even exaggerating, they give kids a high. If you don't believe me lab rat your kids, give them one and watch there pupils before and after. Then watch how they either get crazy or in some kind of zone. I don't know if they make kids trip or what. Just a warning!!!!!
    “Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”

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