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    A Letter from a Dying Veteran

    Dear George Bush and Dick Cheney, You Are Guilty of Murder: A Letter from a Dying Veteran

    To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
    From: Tomas Young

    I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.

    I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.

    You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

    I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

    Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.

    I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

    I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.

    I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.

    My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.
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    to bad all the parents of the children killed in drone strikes don't get there letters published.

    That would be a pip right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    to bad all the parents of the children killed in drone strikes don't get there letters published.

    That would be a pip right?
    Yea, that's right. Bush did those too didn't he?




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    only ones I read about about were the ones Obama did since the aclu and the victims family tried to press charges and got rebuffed. Dont really know if Bush did any since we rarly see it in American press you have to go to the british/euro press to see the torn and destroyed childrens bodies.

    Bush was an idiot as well so I dont see your point. I do no Bush wasnt in an American town crying about children while simultaneously killing little middle eastern children.


    At any rate mind-crime posted this as usual for a partisan response and she got it. Here is a none Partisan response from another veteran who also has a son that served and is serving in Iraq:

    The writer wrote:

    Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
    The same can be said for any recent president that has sent troops in harms way, Bush as well as Obama, Reagen and Clinton never served a day in the military yet sent our warriors off to fight. Are they all cowards?

    I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded.
    The writer presumes to speak for all veterans, I can tell you with no doubt he does not. I served 20 yrs, my son is serving now, I am well acquainted with Blue star Mothers and Gold star mothers. He speaks for himself.

    I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.

    have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration.

    My day of reckoning is upon me.
    The writer is trying to infer he is dying as a direct result of what happened and that the VA's incompetent care is complacent in that death. The reality is if he dies he is doing it to himself:

    Young announced that he would stop taking all nourishment and life-extending medications. He's since said that the deterioration to his body from the injury and ensuing complications would make it physically impossible for him to commit suicide in any other way.
    At the end of the day this is a very angry young man, rightfully so and a lot of that is because of his service and what happened to him, the reality is there are thousands more like him and that number grows each day as we continue to shift our service members all over the globe in the name of the world police.

    So if the OP wanted to take something from this besides an Oprah Winfrey "you go girl" or partisan "gotcha" moment she should think a little deeper write her president a letter and tell him to send American Boys and Girls home.

    The OP didn't, instead the OP just wants to use this tragedy, this angry broken young man, to try to score some partisan points.
    People who wonder if the glass is half empty or full miss the point. The glass is refillable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    only ones I read about about were the ones Obama did since the aclu and the victims family tried to press charges and got rebuffed. Dont really know if Bush did any since we rarly see it in American press you have to go to the british/euro press to see the torn and destroyed childrens bodies.

    Bush was an idiot as well so I dont see your point. I do no Bush wasnt in an American town crying about children while simultaneously killing little middle eastern children.


    At any rate mind-crime posted this as usual for a partisan response and she got it. Here is a none Partisan response from another veteran who also has a son that served and is serving in Iraq:

    The writer wrote:



    The same can be said for any recent president that has sent troops in harms way, Bush as well as Obama, Reagen and Clinton never served a day in the military yet sent our warriors off to fight. Are they all cowards?



    The writer presumes to speak for all veterans, I can tell you with no doubt he does not. I served 20 yrs, my son is serving now, I am well acquainted with Blue star Mothers and Gold star mothers. He speaks for himself.



    The writer is trying to infer he is dying as a direct result of what happened and that the VA's incompetent care is complacent in that death. The reality is if he dies he is doing it to himself:



    At the end of the day this is a very angry young man, rightfully so and a lot of that is because of his service and what happened to him, the reality is there are thousands more like him and that number grows each day as we continue to shift our service members all over the globe in the name of the world police.

    So if the OP wanted to take something from this besides an Oprah Winfrey "you go girl" or partisan "gotcha" moment she should think a little deeper write her president a letter and tell him to send American Boys and Girls home.

    The OP didn't, instead the OP just wants to use this tragedy, this angry broken young man, to try to score some partisan points.
    Mindcrime and the writer, named Tomas Young are she's???
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Mindcrime and the writer, named Tomas Young are she's???
    No. Steven suffers from gender-confusion.
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. No one is entitled to their own facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
    No. Steven suffers from gender-confusion.
    Does that make him a Gender-Bender??? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
    No. Steven suffers from gender-confusion.
    This is what passes for a thought provoking counter for some people

    Instead of some kind of intelligent response its back to the speakup reality TV show complete with zippy one liners and other banal comments that have nothing to do with the subject matter.

    OK I'll play:

    Sorry, I thought you where a women because you always act like your panty's are in a bunch.

    Yuk Yuk


    Is that better? are you more comfortable with that then real discussion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    ...
    Sorry, I thought you where a women because you always act like your panty's are in a bunch.
    That makes most everyone on this board female.


    Is that better? are you more comfortable with that then real discussion?
    Real discussion starts with mutual respect. Try it sometime.
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    I am aware some posters when they realize how lost there cause is try to change the subject, start fake drama etc to deflect. I am sure that isn't you so I will help you get YOUR thread back on topic, you can thank me later.

    Here is the relevant response to what you posted. Lets not let it get lost in unnecessary noise that has nothing to do with the subject mater:

    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    only ones I read about about were the ones Obama did since the aclu and the victims family tried to press charges and got rebuffed. Don't really know if Bush did any since we rarely see it in American press you have to go to the british/euro press to see the torn and destroyed children's bodies.

    Bush was an idiot as well so I don't see your point. I do no Bush wasn't in an American town crying about children while simultaneously killing little middle eastern children.


    At any rate mind-crime posted this as usual for a partisan response and she got it. Here is a none Partisan response from another veteran who also has a son that served and is serving in Iraq:

    The writer wrote:

    Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
    The same can be said for any recent president that has sent troops in harms way, Bush as well as Obama, Reagen and Clinton never served a day in the military yet sent our warriors off to fight. Are they all cowards?

    I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded.
    The writer presumes to speak for all veterans, I can tell you with no doubt he does not. I served 20 yrs, my son is serving now, I am well acquainted with Blue star Mothers and Gold star mothers. He speaks for himself.

    Young announced that he would stop taking all nourishment and life-extending medications. He's since said that the deterioration to his body from the injury and ensuing complications would make it physically impossible for him to commit suicide in any other way.
    The writer is trying to infer he is dying as a direct result of what happened and that the VA's incompetent care is complacent in that death. The reality is if he dies he is doing it to himself:



    At the end of the day this is a very angry young man, rightfully so and a lot of that is because of his service and what happened to him, the reality is there are thousands more like him and that number grows each day as we continue to shift our service members all over the globe in the name of the world police.

    So if the OP wanted to take something from this besides an Oprah Winfrey "you go girl" or partisan "gotcha" moment she should think a little deeper write her president a letter and tell him to send American Boys and Girls home.

    The OP didn't, instead the OP just wants to use this tragedy, this angry broken young man, to try to score some partisan points.
    There we are, back on topic. Ready for an adult conversation again.
    People who wonder if the glass is half empty or full miss the point. The glass is refillable.

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