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    Smile South Buffalo Business Association

    In 1927 a group of businessmen from South Park Ave. Triangle and Abbott Roads formed the Tri Abbott Business Association. These hard working "Mom and Pops" in conjuction with other small businesses took pride in maintening the revitalization, progress and spirit of community. Throughout the -past 75 years the business association has been instrumental in stability of the business districts. In 1986, a group of business people from Seneca Street asked to join the business association. Thus the South Buffalo Business Association aquired a new name. this business association has been a positive force in the community. Under the 501 C3 South Buffalo Economic and Community Development Corp. this non for profit, non partisan group has held it's own. The community has profited by the many events sponsored by this business group, such as, Crystal Beach days, Bat Girl and Bat Boy for the Bison Baseball Team, Irish Nite at the Ball Park, community Christmas Tree trimming and program, Gateway sign on Potter and Abbott, Fall Fest, Darian Lake, Sunday In The Park, member to member discount program, plus business seminars, beauification projects such as the McKinley Circles, Fireman's Monument, hosta gardens, Tyler Park, Hecock Park, Sheldon Park, funded the South Buffalo Beautification committee, Olmsted Parks of South Buffalo, the Flood Insurance program which removed 150 families from the flood plane,(no charges to e residents) provided flowers for the area block clubs, and many more...
    What a pity it is that our County Legislator Mark Schroeder and Councilwoman Mary Martino have chose to fractionate the community and have refused to work together with the oldest business group. Instead, Mr. Schroeder has decided to make a Chamber of Commerce into his own political group with his neighbors South Buffalo Alive. Doesn't Mr. Schroeder know that a Chamber of Commerce has to be non partisan? Not polictical. His political staffed and motivated Chamber of Commerce is not recognized by the National Chamber of Commerce. Infact the motto of the United State Chamber of Commerce is "non political".

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    So how many members does the group have now? Are they still active in the community?

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    There are 258 members and we are very active in the community. We don't play the game of "capture the flag" that other organizations do and put a flag, banner, or spray paint our name on everything we do. We are above that. Any by the way those hiddeous banners on Abbott Road are such a joke, people laugh at them all the time.....yes Buffalo should go south....
    What a waste of public funds. I can't wait for those to be taken down and a nice South Buffalo Banner like those in Lackawanna and West Seneca are put up. I can't stand my money being used for those useless banners. The group that put those up should Go South

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    OH what banners are we talking about?

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    banners

    take a ride down Abbott Road.

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    I like em

    I would like to see more , esp the kind that go across the whole street. South Bflo is hanging in there, a bit of pride in someones community can go along way.

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    They are as inspirational as the "we're talking proud" streetsigns.
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    Cactus is right. This group does more real community efforts than the groups who try to fool the public. Great work SBBA !

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    Buffalo has a lot of groups that churn through our cash without a lot to show for what they do.

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    The South Buffalo Business Association always looked out for businesses. I attended a few meetings of the group and was impressed how the meetings were run by the group. Politicians should take second fiddle to the hard working business folk.

    Let the business community run business. A walk down Seneca is enough to get me to see that the politicals in office now don't have a clue.

    Buffam

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    I'm going to babble...

    It's just not the politicians that have caused this to happen. It's thier buddy developers too. It was a lot cheaper to build in the suburbs than restoring areas or buildings in buffalo. Buffalo had such a grip on fees and paper work running thier "TURF" the burbs were easier to deal with.

    Plus at one time the taxes were lower so in was good for business and residents... OH then the loop hole was figured out. Give tax incentives to get more people building at the expense of the tax payers in the suburb. THe politcians get to vote thier pay raises while giving away the area to the developers profiteering from what they do. Oh, don't forget, at our expense and cost of quality of life.

    Would you rather knock down a old unusable building and then build?

    or

    take pristine wet land and farm land (cheaper) and turn it into sub divisions of McMansions, malls, strip plazas and those big box warehouse stores?

    Look how many are acutally vacant in the area plus ALL the vacant buildings in the city. We are talking LOTS of square empty footage here. THATS a LOT of empty space which could of been green space. Well all this sprawl cost everyone money.

    If it didn't then why are the living cost in NY going up so dramically. If we weren't supporting so many people (welfare and ALL civil servants ) at such high cost our quality of life would be much better. It's not NY raising the cost of living it's the people running NY that are. THink about it? How many times would you NOT vote youself a pay raise if you could?

    And why I'm babbling, why give away our services for free to the people that get the tax incentives and end up paying for it ourselves in the long run? Only ones that profit are the developers and thier puppet polticians in office. If taxes were lower for everyone and NOT a select few, the whole area would be better.


    Small example:

    Have been reading on our messageboard the consolidation of the county libraries... They want to spend enormous amounts money to build a new library to replace a few other ones here and there.

    They don't take into account the millions they want to spend to close the few libraries down.

    They don't take in account they will not lay anyone off and still ahve that expense.

    In the long run where's the payback? It's too far down the road.

    BUT that developer who built that library building made thier money charging us top dollar for everything they do.

    Where do you think a lot of politicans campaign donations come from? Union groups and developers it seems. They gotta keep that churn going otherwise theres no profit for them.

    And what do we get? WAY too much traffic in the burbs, rising taxes, bad bad labor union contracts, oh and the best, no accountability for what they don't do. What a deal.

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    and what does South Buffalo get?

    Another "rent a ripoff store" That's where you can get a $499. appliance for easy payments that wind up being double or triple that retail price.

    BF

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    Buffalo family,

    One issue though with the rental stores. They are taking such a high risk giving a product to someone and not getting paid for it. I can easily see people buying a stove or Tv without thinking they have to pay for it month after month. We have clients that can't pay $10 per month for thier services on time and once they get behind 3 or 4 months we know we will never see the payments. Now if we had to invest a couple of hundred a month to start with we would have to charge a lot more to.

    Now they need to offset the lose when people don't pay thier payments.

    What recourse do they have if they rent a TV and then that client sells that tv to pay some other bill?

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    It's a ripoff

    WNYresident said:

    One issue though with the rental stores. They are taking such a high risk giving a product to someone and not getting paid for it. I can easily see people buying a stove or Tv without thinking they have to pay for it month after month.
    Not true. I know folks who worked these outlets. They recoup 95% of the product that people miss payments on. To make matters worse, many people lost their purchase because they missed one or two payments (due to ilness etc.) even though they were paying on it for two or more years, and probably paid 2 to 4 x's the retail value.

    It's a bad business model.

    BF

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