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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Except that whenever someone refers to hunters as objects of the 2A they are exhibiting their ignorance about the 2A. It is not about hunting. Hunting could be eliminated entirely with no impact whatsoever on the 2A. You can't hunt in Washington DC but the SCOTUS has held you have a 2A right to possess a handgun in your home for self defense.
    So what we have is Trump showing what a blowhard he is.
    Anyone who thinks his statements are supportive of the 2A is just as ignorant as he is about the 2A.
    And your the blowhard brain washed Party lawyer who just keeps mixing apples and oranges .

    He and his family support hunting, gun ownership and possession - its all one in the same to most of us.

    In your case - you support only elitists like you having guns/firearms - because you fear your brother man. Thats why your head needs to be examined and your need for a fire arm reexamined.
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    About time. What about a lawsuit against erie county on their PP policies.

    Libertarian Party of Erie County has officially filed a lawsuit against the NY Pistol Permit law! Spread the word!

    Finally a Challenge to NY's Pistol Permit Law 08/09/2015

    MEDIA ADVISORY

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    (716) 435-8918 jameso@apollo3.com

    NEW YORK’S SULLIVAN ACT CHALLENGED IN FEDERAL COURT

    Buffalo, NY. August 9, 2015. A group of citizens have filed a frontal legal assault on New York’s pistol permit law, known as the Sullivan Act, after the corrupt Tammany Hall politician who sponsored it in 1911. The statute requires law-abiding citizens to get government permission before arming themselves against the hordes of violent criminals roaming New York’s streets.

    The lawsuit, filed in Federal Court in Buffalo, complains that alone among the fundamental rights spelled out in the Bill of Rights, only the right to bear arms requires that citizens get government permission before exercising it.

    The complaint notes that seeking such permission can takes years and several thousand dollars and is often denied arbitrarily.

    The plaintiffs in the case are the Libertarian Party of Erie County, four residents of Erie County, Michael Kuzma, Philip Mayor, Michael Rebmann and Edward L. Garrett; Richard Cooper of Nassau County, Ginny Rober of Broome County and David Mongielo of Niagara County.

    The defendants are Governor Andrew Cuomo, Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and State Police Superintendent Joseph A. D’Amico
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    ...hoarded of violent criminals roaming New York streets?...

    That's rich.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 4248 View Post
    He and his family support hunting, gun ownership and possession - its all one in the same to most of us.
    That's where ignorance begins and intelligence ends.

    Equating hunting with the 2A is an expression of your ignorance of the 2A.

    The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting and those who think it does aren't intelligent enough to be allowed to own a firearm in the first place.

    You think you have a 2A right to hunt whenever, wherever you want to hunt?

    You think gun laws that restricted possession of firearms to a few weeks a year for a few limited targets would pass muster under the 2A like the restrictions on hunting.

    Idiots don't help a cause. Please get off the wagon.

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    Hunters and gun owners see the second amendment as all connected - I dont care what you say !

    If your right to own and posses arms are restricted/removed - one affects the other and if you support one - odds are you support the other.

    Yes, hunting is restricted - it needs to be - or you would have people like the guy in Cheektowaga dropping a deer just because he can. Hunters protect and support our wildlife and our gun ownership rights.

    Your so bent on stalking my comments you lose sight of the bigger picture !

    You falsely attacked Mr.Trump on the gun rights issue - when your proved wrong you twist and spin.

    You support all the Dem restrictions, forced insurance and only guns for Elitists -
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4248 View Post
    Hunters and gun owners see the second amendment as all connected - I dont care what you say !

    If your right to own and posses arms are restricted/removed - one affects the other and if you support one - odds are you support the other.

    Yes, hunting is restricted - it needs to be - or you would have people like the guy in Cheektowaga dropping a deer just because he can. Hunters protect and support our wildlife and our gun ownership rights.

    Your so bent on stalking my comments you lose sight of the bigger picture !

    You falsely attacked Mr.Trump on the gun rights issue - when your proved wrong you twist and spin.

    You support all the Dem restrictions, forced insurance and only guns for Elitists -
    Trump is not a supporter of the 2A if he equates hunting with 2A rights because the 2A has nothing to do with the highly regulated sport of hunting.



    He is no different from Obama and Cuomo on that issue:

    THE 2ND AMENDMENT ISN'T ABOUT HUNTING: IT'S ABOUT SELF-DEFENSE

    When Gov. Cuomo argued against guns with magazines that hold 10 rounds on Jan. 9, he tried to justify it by saying, “No one hunts with an assault rifle. No one needs 10 rounds to kill a deer.”
    Problem one: He’s wrong in the same way Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) was wrong when he said no one hunts with an AR-15. Tons of people hunt with these kinds of rifles.

    Problem two: It isn’t about hunting — never has been, never will be.

    The 2nd Amendment wasn’t given to us to protect our right to duck or deer hunt but to defend our lives and our property and to repel tyranny, period.

    When the left twists the 2nd Amendment to make it about hunting, they do so to effectively cut all non-hunters out of the equation, which lessens the size of the opposition by lopping off those who own guns for other purposes (self-defense). And this also gives them grounds to limit guns and gun-types based on hunting applications.

    However, this is a specious tactic at best, because the 2nd Amendment is not about hunting.

    As the Supreme Court said in both their District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago decisions, “individual self defense is “the central component‘ of the Second Amendment Right.” (italics in original)

    This is not an argument against hunting. It’s just a reminder that that’s not the reason the Founding Fathers wanted us to be armed.
    Reason.com: Obama Still Thinks the Second Amendment Is About Hunting

    Addressing the National Urban League Convention in New Orleans yesterday, President Obama once again displayed his fundamental misunderstanding of the Second Amendment:

    I, like most Americans, believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. And we recognize the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation—that hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage.

    That is similar to what Obama said as a presidential candidate in 2008, when he promised to "protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting." But as Ice-T could have told him, the main purpose of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms is not to facilitate hunting and target shooting; it is to facilitate self-defense, against both official oppression and private aggression.

    When a politician suggests the Second Amendment is all about hunting, he trivializes it, just as he would be trivializing the First Amendment by saying it's all about pornography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    ...hoarded of violent criminals roaming New York streets?...

    That's rich.



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    Says the guy who carries on his badge.

    So... should we assume YOU would have no problem, what-so-ever, totally disarming yourself, moving to NYC to live out the rest of your days, and you would never be concerned for your safety or life? You would have no problem taking your chances just as the everyday, unarmed, common citizen in NYC does?

    Now, that would be rich.

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    Best States for Gun Owners 2015.. guess what this state is not #1..

    Our founders’ experiment in self-government gave us the gift of Federalism, where states unite under a centralized governing authority while honoring a state’s rights. Though the power of the federal government has increased, the United States still maintains great contrast on the subject of gun ownership. Gun rights vary from states that have all but made it impossible to own firearms and related accessories to states where few restrictions exist. For the third consecutive year and first time in print, Guns & Ammo presents our assessment of each state’s gun laws in a format that ranks them from worst to first for gun owners.

    Rather than simply reverse the rankings made by anti-gun groups, G&A has conducted a thorough review of each state’s laws and considered initiatives pending in state legislatures. Every effort has been made to create a ranking system that is fair, equitable, accurate and objective. States were ranked numerically in each of five categories: right-to-carry, right to own “black rifles” (i.e., firearms possessing a tactical appearance), presence of the Castle Doctrine, subjects relating to the National Firearms Act (NFA) and a catchall miscellaneous column.


    Read more: http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-t...#ixzz3iZHY6Pm0




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    The gun control argument was essentially over when America decided it was acceptable to kill children.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chant View Post
    Says the guy who carries on his badge.

    So... should we assume YOU would have no problem, what-so-ever, totally disarming yourself, moving to NYC to live out the rest of your days, and you would never be concerned for your safety or life? You would have no problem taking your chances just as the everyday, unarmed, common citizen in NYC does?

    Now, that would be rich.
    I don't carry. I don't need to. I don't travel in circles where the threat exists. I am otherwise not fearful to go outside my home.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    I don't carry. I don't need to. I don't travel in circles where the threat exists. I am otherwise not fearful to go outside my home.



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    So, how about that move to NYC without a firearm? Doesn't have to be NYC, you can also try Detroit or Chicago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    The gun control argument was essentially over when America decided it was acceptable to kill children.




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    When did this happen? Was there a vote or something? Or are we talking about abortion now for some reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chant View Post
    So, how about that move to NYC without a firearm? Doesn't have to be NYC, you can also try Detroit or Chicago.
    I live in Niagara Falls. Isn't it more dangerous than NYC according to some survey now.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chant View Post
    When did this happen? Was there a vote or something? Or are we talking about abortion now for some reason?
    Since you brought it up, abortion doesn't kill children.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    The gun control argument was essentially over when America decided it was acceptable to kill children.




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    Did people kill children with firearms before second amendment was passed?

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