The truth about Garbage Totes in Cheektowaga

[WNYresident]

We were all overtaxed! The totes will be paid by money owed back to the taxpayers of this town. This so called surplus as it is call by our representatives is not theirs to spend. For example if each tote costs $150.00 and there are 30,000 currently needed according to Supervisor Mary Holtz. That is four and a half million dollars that should be paid back with interest or put toward our next years tax bill. Budget surpluses should be returned to the hard working tax payer automatically. Doing business as usual should not fly anymore especially with the amount of wasteful spending we currently have in this town. Officials have a responsibility to us who pay their salaries. Why is it that we allow them to keep our money when any other business issues a check for over payments. Aren't their any attorney's who live in Cheektowaga who want their money back?

If current laws were enforced regarding people keeping their yards free of garbage and putting a common sense rule in place that mandates that secured lids be on the garbage cans while at the curb. The rats would have a smaller food source and the population would go down. “The rat problem will not be eliminated“as quoted from our current Supervisor at one of the public meetings. Some people will leave totes uncovered, and still have garbage outside on their property's. As for cans rolling in the streets there are other ways to deal with that problem. People of this town are not stupid just complacent. Garbage totes are just another expansion of government and big industry into our lives and homes. The time for smaller more efficient government is long overdue. Maintaining over taxes at current levels is unacceptable and a crock of manure. It is time to cut taxes, along with the people who do not understand we are TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY (T.E.A.)


I have been told that the waste business will have tracking chips in these totes. What else will they track? Do we really need them involved in our lives this way. What will be next? Currently you can put as many bags with in reason amount without with out any extra charges. When the totes come you will have to call for an extra pickup and, most likely be charged an extra fee. If you live in certain parts of the town you have racoons and possums to deal with. My current garbage cans lids are secure enough to not be lifted by the cleaver creatures. These totes lids can be easily lifted by any racoons.

Our officials have never mentioned the additional costs for maintenance of the arms attached to the trucks. You the taxpayer will pay for the parts the the time to keep them functioning. Let us not forget the holes that will have to be repaired in them as trapped rats eat there way out..Our officials also mentioned they will not eliminate any workers by adding these totes to our already crowded lives.
So there will be no cost savings to anyone! The council persons and the supervisor should be put in jail for robbing us our the surplus taxes. We would be fined and then jailed if we did not pay them. When will people wake up and elect people who want to make the hard decisions and cut expenses rather than giving it all away to big business. We will be paying for additional totes and their maintenance costs for any new homes constructed in Cheektowaga. We will be paying g for these totes forever. What happens if we get a better price for garbage collection from another company with different totes?

from,
John C. Stonefield
resident of Cheektowaga

[nogods]

I lived in Amherst without totes and I lived in Amherst with totes.

A town with totes is a much better place to live. The overwhelming majority of people who responded feel the same.

I respect John C.'s opinion on the issue, but he has several factual errors in his statements.

In any event, the bottom line is we the people want the totes.

Thanks for participating in the democratic process John C. Enjoy your tote.

[jbird]

Maybe if john new his facts he would make a point next time check your facts first befor speaking

[WNYresident]

Did you two know that our town had 1000's of people leave in the last 10 years?

Population in 2010: 75,178. Population change since 2000: -6.0%
Males: 35,290 (46.9%)
Females: 39,888 (53.1%)

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Cheekt...#ixzz1vcRNNp1c

That is one fact that stands out.

Nogods and Jbird? Didn't a small group of people who belong to the cheektowaga democratic party basically run our town for the last 10 years?

Next election material

"Stop the Democrats from breaking apart more families in our community - 1000's flee since last census" That sounds good

or

"Stop the Democrats from driving families from their homes - 1000's flee since last census"

[Benjamin]

The cost to keep the arms up to par is minimal. Its not going to make your taxes go up

[nogods]

Did you two know that our town had 1000's of people leave in the last 10 years?




That is one fact that stands out.

Nogods and Jbird? Didn't a small group of people who belong to the cheektowaga democratic party basically run our town for the last 10 years?

Next election material

"Stop the Democrats from breaking apart more families in our community - 1000's flee since last census" That sounds good

or

"Stop the Democrats from driving families from their homes - 1000's flee since last census"

The population of Dallas dropped by 101,000 between 2009 and 2011. By your simplified "cause and effect"" logic, that makes Dallas 10 times as bad as Cheektowaga - Quick! somebody tell Greatbatch!!!

[jbird]

How about those republicans want to cut everything from senior services to quilty of life services for the town those are facts to so it goes both ways

[WNYresident]

The population of Dallas dropped by 101,000 between 2009 and 2011. By your simplified "cause and effect"" logic, that makes Dallas 10 times as bad as Cheektowaga - Quick! somebody tell Greatbatch!!!

Stay on topic. We are referring to the population loss while the "Cheektowaga democratic party" has been in control of our town.

nogods? Help me with this.

I think our community lost 4500 people... Let us say an average family of 4.... 1100 families had to flee our community. 1100 less families contributing to our property taxes. 100's of homes left to rot because we are losing population. When you see Charley ask him how our town's vacant home situation is....

What do you think the economic impact is of the average person over 10 years?
I want to multiple that by 4500 to see what damage the "cheektowaga democratic party" has caused.

"Stop the democrats!!! - While they controlled our town for the last 10 years they have caused "millions of dollars" of negative economic impact."

[WNYresident]

How about those republicans want to cut everything from senior services to quilty of life services for the town those are facts to so it goes both ways

Not once did I hear a republican state they want to cut senior services or quality of life services for the town.

[jbird]

Stop the republicans they want to cut everything thats a fact to

[jbird]

Umm you must be living in a dream world then because that was there big platform cut cut cut you can spin it anyway you like the seniors in cheektowaga know the truth

[nogods]

Stay on topic. We are referring to the population loss while the "Cheektowaga democratic party" has been in control of our town.

nogods? Help me with this.

I think our community lost 4500 people... Let us say an average family of 4.... 1100 families had to flee our community. 1100 less families contributing to our property taxes. 100's of homes left to rot because we are losing population. When you see Charley ask him how our town's vacant home situation is....

What do you think the economic impact is of the average person over 10 years?
I want to multiple that by 4500 to see what damage the "cheektowaga democratic party" has caused.

"Stop the democrats!!! - While they controlled our town for the last 10 years they have caused "millions of dollars" of negative economic impact."

the point is that population decline is meaningless by itself. Dallas lost 10 times as much, yet all the Rmoney heads think its the hotbed of good government.

Don't try to run and hide from the facts.

BTW - We can stand to lose a few more people. We were getting way too overcrowded as it was. I don't want more people in WNY.

More people, more malls, more traffic, more pollution and the quality of life declines.

Maybe Ted will move to Dallas.

[Dan Roman]

The cost to keep the arms up to par is minimal. Its not going to make your taxes go up

That is technically true, however, the last time the town did the great tote experiment, the arm kept breaking and the trucks were constantly in maint. The sanitation crew is not going to be happy that they are losing some people, they can torpedo the program if they so chose like they did previously.

[WNYresident]

Where are the totes being purchased from?

This was sent in to me today....

I wish someone would do a story on the fact that some one is getting some type of incentive or kickback for buying all these totes.I've been told our board members do not fill out their require forms showing their conflicts of interest.

Any truth to this?

And if we are going to purchase totes ( i really don't see an issue with totes. A can is a can) when will the purchase go out to bid? With the power of the internet we should be able to get the very very best price for our town.

http://www.toter.com/

Toter is the leading supplier of wheeled, rollout carts (20 - 96 gallons) used for curbside automated waste and recycling collection by cities and private waste haulers. Toter introduced the automated curbside cart system in North America during the late 1960s, and Toter carts are the #1 selling brand today with over 22 million carts in use. Toter's clients include city-wide installations in Austin, TX; Chicago, IL; Phoenix, AZ; Washington, DC; San Francisco, CA; Charlotte, NC; and thousands of other cities, private haulers, and recyclers.

Toter carts, which are recognized throughout the industry as "The World's Toughest Carts," are produced with a patented, stress-free molding technology known as Advanced Rotational Molding™. This "no-stress" molding technology produces carts with important strength and durability advantages over carts produced with "high-stress" molding processes such as injection molding.

Toter's patented molding technology - combined with superior raw material and an unparalleled product design - creates carts that outlast any other on the market. Because of their superior performance and durability, Toter carts have the proven lowest life cycle cost industry-wide.

[unsilent]

Does this reduce the need for sanitation employees?