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    Why don't you tell me.

    Quote Originally Posted by lackawanna #1 View Post
    Your brain is washed if you think special ed and advanced classes are comparable from lackawanna to any other district, please post how much money each of the districts spends on special ed students! An average cost per student at Lhs is bull if it compares to the actual cost per student in another school. lets seee the numbers!
    This just plain stupid. IT IS JUST THE COST PER STUDENT. This is simply, the wages of all your teachers divided by the number of all your students. You need to take some courses in statistics. It doesn't matter what course you take.

    What don't you understand a teacher is a teacher and it doesn't matter what course they teach. A student is a student and it dosn't matter what level they are at. The dollars paid don't care what you teach or what class you attend.

    THE FORMULA IS USED IN EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL DISTRICT. If you feel there is a problem with the figure contact Education.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lackawanna #1 View Post
    Now please post the amount of monies spent on specialeducation at these districts.
    The other half of this story is all the EXTRA, BIG MONEY pumped into the school system by the state, federal and grant money to support those special ed students. With all those teacher aides assisting those students they should be in advanced classes. Hmmmmm....but the aides could not pass those classes themselves. Research the "dumbing down" of education for that answer....

    These kids are NOT left to the district for the sole support...quite the contrary!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lackawanna #1 View Post
    Really???? 2004??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by lackawanna #1 View Post
    So those are fantastic, amazing and I opening statistics for 2004 its 2012. If you feel the need to share info be civil. You started out OK then you blew a gasket.
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    Read on...Lackawanna City Schools is considered one of the five "small" districts in the state!

    Budgeting Handbook

    Legal Aspects

    RESPONSIBILITY OF BOARDS OF EDUCATION TO PREPARE BUDGETS

    The laws of the State of New York are quite explicit as to where the responsibility of budget preparation and presentation lies. The responsibility resides with each Common, Union Free, Central and Small City School District board of education, as follows:

    It shall be the duty of the board of education to present at the public hearing the proposed budget. The board of education must present its budget in three components: (1) a Program Component, (2) a Capital Component, and (3) an Administrative Component.

    The budget must be written in plain language. Categories of revenues, expenditures and fund balance information, as well as comparison data from the prior year's budget must be set forth in such a manner as to best promote comprehension and readability.

    Boards of education must attach to the proposed budget the salaries, benefits and any in-kind or other form of compensation of the superintendent, assistant or associate superintendent and any administrator who will earn over $118,000 in the upcoming year.

    Boards of education must also append to the proposed budget an annual report card prepared by the NYS Education Department which measures the academic performance of the district on a school by school basis. The report card must compare academic performance to statewide averages for all schools of comparable wealth and need. (Education Law §§1608, 1716 and 2601-a)

    LEGAL PROCESS INVOLVED IN ADOPTING BUDGETS

    School Boards of Education must hold a public hearing to present to the voters the budget for the upcoming school year. The budget hearing must be held no more than fourteen days nor less than seven days before the date of the annual meeting and election. Notice of the date, time and place of the public hearing must be included in the notice of the annual meeting. (Education Law §§1608, 1716, 2003, 2004 &2601-a)

    The annual meeting and election must be held on the third Tuesday in May, unless it conflicts with a religious observation. At the request of the school board, the Commissioner may certify by March 1 that a religious conflict exists, in which case the election and budget vote may be held on the second Tuesday in May (Education Law §§1906,2002,2022,2022a and 2601-a)

    The board of education must notify the residents of Common, Union Free, Central and Small City School Districts of the time and place of the public hearing and the annual meeting, in accordance with Education Law.

    The clerk of each school district shall give notice of the time and place of the public hearing and annual meeting as required by §§1608, 1716, and 2022 of the Education Law. The published notice shall appear four times within the seven weeks preceding the district meeting. The first publication shall be at least forty-five days before said meeting. The announcement shall appear in two newspapers, if there are two, having general circulation within the district. When no newspaper has general circulation therein, the notice shall be posted in at least twenty of the most public places in the district forty-five days before the time of such meeting. (Education Law, §2004)

    The notice of the annual meeting (see APPENDIX D for Sample Notice) shall state:
    a.between what hours such annual meeting and election is to take place, and
    b.the place(s) where such election is to be held (Education Law §§2003,2004,2601-a).

    AVAILABILITY OF PROPOSED BUDGETS

    Each board of education is required to have the proposed budget for Common, Union Free, Central and Small City schools available for public comment.

    The budget must be complete and available upon request to residents within the district seven days before the budget hearing. The board of education, as part of the notice of the annual meeting referred to in part B. of this section, must give notice that district residents may obtain a copy of the budget, and provide time and place where budgets will be available.

    The budget shall be completed at least fourteen days before the annual or special meeting and copies thereof shall be prepared and made available, upon request, to residents within the district during the period fourteen days immediately preceding such meeting and at such meeting. The board shall also, as a part of the notice required, give notice that a copy of such statement may be obtained by any resident at each schoolhouse, public and free association library within the district, and made available on the district's website, if any. (Education Law, §§ 1608, 1716, 2003, 2004).(Library and website requirement effective 2009).

    Common, union free, central high school district and small city school districts shall mail a school budget notice to all qualified voters of the school district after the date of the budget hearing but no later than six days prior to budget vote(s) and election. The school budget notice shall compare the percentage increase or decrease in the proposed budget over total spending under the school district budget adopted for the current year, with the percentage increase decrease in the consumer price index. Commencing with the proposed budget for the two thousand one--two thousand two school year, such notice shall also include a description of how total spending and the tax levy resulting from the proposed budget would compare with a projected contingency budget assuming that the contingency budget is adopted on the same day as the vote on the proposed budget. Such comparison shall be in total and by component (program, capital and administrative), and shall include a statement of the assumptions made in estimating the projected contingency budget. The notice shall also include a comparison of the tax savings under the basic school tax relief (STAR) exemption authorized by section four hundred twenty-five of the real property tax law and the increase or decrease in school taxes from the prior year, and the resulting net taxpayer savings, for a hypothetical home within the district with a full value of one hundred thousand dollars, under the existing school district budget with such savings under the proposed budget. The notice shall also set forth the date, time and place of the school budget vote (See Form). (Education Law §2022)

    ADOPTION OF THE REGULAR BUDGET

    The budget must be presented to the voters for their approval. The board of education may submit its budget and/or proposition(s) to the voters no more than two times. If the voters fail to approve the budget after the second submission, the board must adopt a contingency budget.

    CONTINGENT BUDGET

    When a board of education is faced with adopting a contingent budget after the voters have refused or continue to refuse to approve the budget, the crucial question is the determination of what constitutes ordinary contingent expenditures. In general, except for those items for which the statutes themselves either provide mandates or give discretion to the board of education, these may be considered expenditures deemed to be absolutely necessary to operate and maintain schools. The emphasis should be on those expenditures considered essential to maintain an educational program, preserve property, and assure the health and safety of students and staff. In addition, section 2023 of the Education Law places a computed dollar cap on general fund appropriations. The administrative component of the budget is also subject to a cap.

    Formal Opinion of Counsel No. 213 specifically discusses provisions for teachers' salaries as authorized by §1709, subdivision 16, of the Education Law. It also divides ordinary contingent expenditures into three categories: (1) legal expenditures; (2) expenditures specifically authorized by statute; and (3) other items necessary to maintain the education program, preserve property and assure the health and safety of students and staff. Formal Opinion of Counsel No. 213 can be used as a guide in helping the board to arrive at a determination of an "ordinary contingent expenditure." (See APPENDICES C, F AND G for further information).

    It is important to note that although an item may be an ordinary contingent expenditure, the amount of the administrative component and the total amount of a contingency budget may not exceed the caps set forth under Education Law §2023. The contingency budget is capped at the lesser of: (1) the result obtained when computing 120 percent of the consumer price index (CPI)*, or (2) four percent, over the prior year's budget. Items which shall be excluded when determining total expenditures that are subject to the contingent budget cap include:
    •Costs related to increases in student enrollment including the new pre-kindergarten enrollment.
    •Expenditure of gifts and grants in aid and the use of insurance proceeds.
    •Non-recurring expenditures in the prior year's budget.
    •Expenses related to tax certiorari proceedings.
    •Expenses related to court orders or judgements.
    •Emergency expenses necessary as a result of damage or destruction of a school building or school equipment.
    •Capital expenditures including debt service and leases from projects approved by the voters.

    (See Excel Spreadsheet to Calculate Compliance with Contingency Budget Cap)

    In addition to this limitation, the administrative component of a contingent budget may not comprise a greater percentage of the contingency budget, exclusive of the capital component, than the lesser of: (1) that percentage which the administrative component had comprised in the prior year's budget; or (2) that percentage which the administrative component had comprised in the last defeated budget presented for the subsequent year. *NOTE: The CPI shall mean the percentage that represents the average of the National Consumer Price Indexes determined by the United States Department of Labor, for the twelve month period preceding January first of the current year.

    The board of education must exercise its best judgment in determining what the minimum expenditures shall be within the limitations imposed by the administration and the contingent budget caps.

    TAXING POWER

    Common, Union Free, Central and Small City School Districts are empowered to levy or authorize the levy of taxes after the voters have approved the budget and the resultant tax or after the board of education has adopted a contingent budget.

    Where a budget of expenditure is voted at an annual school meeting for school purposes during the following school year, the school authorities shall determine and levy or authorize the levy of the necessary tax, prepare the school tax roll therefore and, on or before September 1, annex thereto a warrant for its collection. (Real Property Tax Law, §1306(1)

    NOTE: These procedures may vary in Nassau and Suffolk counties where the Nassau County Administrative Code and Suffolk County Tax Act govern tax collection.




    TOTAL EXPENDITURES NOT TO EXCEED APPROPRIATIONS

    The budget of a school district is a well calculated estimate as to what will be needed for expenditures by function and object. A school district must keep its expenditures within legally authorized appropriations. The appropriate section of Education Law limiting liabilities and expenditures appears below.

    "No board of education shall incur a district liability in excess of the amount appropriated by district meeting unless such board is specially authorized by law to incur such liability." (Education Law, §1718).




    BUDGET TRANSFERS AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS

    It is an exceptional budget that does not require some adjustments made to its appropriation function-object codes during the fiscal year.

    The board of education has the power to make transfers between and within functional unit appropriations for teachers' salaries and ordinary, contingent expenditures. Though transfers are for contingent items, they may not cause the administrative or overall contingent budget caps to be exceeded. Boards of education may, by resolution, authorize the chief school officer to make transfers within the limits as established by the board. §170.2(1) of the Commissioner's Regulations allows transfers "between and within a functional unit appropriation for teacher's salaries and ordinary contingent expenditures" as follows:
    •Transfers to be made between contingent expenditure codes.
    •Transfers to be made from a non-contingent expenditure code to a contingent expenditure code.

    This regulation does not allow:
    •Transfers to be made from contingent expenditure codes to non-contingent expenditure codes.
    •Transfers to be made between non-contingent expenditure codes.

    Grants in aid received from the state and federal governments and other gifts which are required to be expended for particular objects or purposes, any insurance proceeds received for the loss, the damage or destruction of real or personal property, when proposed to be used or applied to repair or replace such property, may be appropriated by resolution of the board of education at any time for such objects or purposes. (§1718 of Education Law)




    INTERNAL CONTROLS

    Districts must implement and maintain controls whereby appropriations and actual expenditures are monitored for compliance with overall and administrative component caps when administering a contingent budget. The district may be required to present evidence that these monitoring controls are in place and operating as designed. Such controls may be integrated into existing accounting and reporting systems or built-on to existing systems, such as through the use of spreadsheet or database applications software
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    [QUOTE=andreahaxton

    If LSD/BOE were really concerned they would do everything in their power to enhance all buildings, stimulate learning by stepping out of the box to offer creative courses, and stay on top of teaching staff in the classroom to ensure the highest quality of learning is being taught........in other words RAISE THE BAR in LACKAWANNA SCHOOLS

    Yes like maybe starting with taking the sports cartoon character off the web page and designing something to represent learning and ACHIEVEMENT! Come on now who can take that seriously?
    Or....add music to the page playing "Send In The Clowns..."
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    District Number IEP % IEP Ranking Ratio
    Students Out of 10 Student/Teacher

    Lackawanna 491 25 3 12:1
    WS 1092 13 6 14:1
    OP 791 15 8 13:1
    Frontier 921 17 6 13:1
    Hamburg 689 16 8 12:1
    Williamsville 1273 12 8 14:1
    Amherst 417 14 7 12:1
    Tonawanda 1894 16 7 12:1
    Kenmore 529 22 8 12:1

    Data from Education.com

    These are the numbers. Now what is your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by getalife123 View Post
    District Number IEP % IEP Ranking Ratio
    Students Out of 10 Student/Teacher

    Lackawanna 491 25 3 12:1
    WS 1092 13 6 14:1
    OP 791 15 8 13:1
    Frontier 921 17 6 13:1
    Hamburg 689 16 8 12:1
    Williamsville 1273 12 8 14:1
    Amherst 417 14 7 12:1
    Tonawanda 1894 16 7 12:1
    Kenmore 529 22 8 12:1

    Data from Education.com

    These are the numbers. Now what is your point?
    So let me get this right.......

    The haters on here are claiming that the Lackawanna SE children costs per student are higher than other districts?
    At last weeks Budget hearing they said people are moving to Lackawanna because our SE is the best around! I said it is all NYS ED mandates etc., why would a child/family receive " better " SE services in Lackawanna, than say West Seneca? A "Special Ed" teacher is special no matter where they teach, don't you agree?!? Please stop using this.

    They said in their double talk that the SE student costs were so high that the reimbursements we receive into the Budget from NYSED were low and it helped to drag down the plus side. Same baloney they try to feed us about the Charter School causing LSD extra expenses.

    Why don't they do the right thing and tell the truth for a change.
    If the truths were told and the BOE at least tried to be fair and neutral about their decisions....WE, Joe and Jane Public would also be on board!
    This BOE has made too many self-serving decisions and have NOT fulfilled their fiduciary duties to the tax payers of Lackawanna!
    OOOUUU! That ole' grapevine is a smokin'!

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    Sorry ran out of time to correct last posting

    District………..Number IEP……% IEP…….Ranking………Ratio
    ……....…………. Students…………………… Out of 10.…. Student/Teacher

    Lackawanna….…..491.…………….25.………….3.……………12:1
    WS………......…….1092.…………….13.………… 6.……………14:1
    OP……......…………791.…………….15.……….… 8.……………13:1
    Frontier…..………..921.…………….17.……….….6 ……………13:1
    Hamburg…..………689.…………….16.……….….8.……………12:1
    Williamsville..……1273.……………12.……….….8.……………14:1
    Amherst……...…….417.…………….14.………….7.……………12:1
    Tonawanda………1894.……………16.………..…7.……………12:1
    Kenmore……..…….529..……………22.…….……8.……………12:1

    Data furnished by Education.com

    Every district has IEP students. Our students don’t make us special.

    We rank at the bottom, What is the problem? Who should be held accountable. High paid teachers, over staffing and an administration that accepts failure. The numbers speak for themselves. The argument about our Special Education holds no water.

    Why don’t we hire more friends and family like maybe Karen Motyka, daughter of Sue Motyka a present teacher aide and daughter of Ken Motyka, a present board member. It just keeps coming.

    So why should we vote for the budget? More importantly why should we return two board members like Gambino and Makeyenko back?

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    This is Correct

    Quote Originally Posted by lackawanna #1 View Post
    Mayeyenko backing geoff szymanski



    Say it isn't so Geoff. It appears that John Makeyenko is backing Geoff Szymanki. Geoff tell us that you have not made a backroom deal with the Makeyenko Klan. I wonder what job Geoff wants for his sister (Elementary School Teacher). I wonder what Geoff offered the Makeyenko group for the backing. This is the old time politics that has taken this city down. Didn't Geoff learn that a backing by Makeyenko is political suicide. This a desperate move that will only cause the continued downward spiral of the city and we deserve better. By bringing the political crap that we experience with the School Board into the city it will only breed more contempt by the citizens of our city. Makeyenko's days are numbered and should be discarded like the trash that he is. If this is the case I will vote for anyone other than Geoff, this is a cancer we don't need. Once in office the damage is done
    Lackawanna #1. Thank you for re-posting my words. This posting was prophetic because in todays Front Page there is Geoff, Makeyenko and Gambino pictured. A picture speaks a thousand words. Is there not an Elementary retiree and therefore a teacher position open in September. How stupid can they be? Truly jobs for the annointed family/friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getalife123 View Post
    So those are fantastic, amazing and I opening statistics for 2004 its 2012. If you feel the need to share info be civil. You started out OK then you blew a gasket.
    Really Lackawanna #1 the information used from Education.com for my recent post on the number of IEP students is current. The research of the information you referred us to was from 2004 and useless. Our Special Ed Dept with multiple employees can't seem to keep their figures up to date. MAYBE OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION DEPARTMENT NEEDS SPECIAL ED SERVICES

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    Quote Originally Posted by lackawanna #1 View Post
    https://reportcards.nysed.gov/files/...1800010000.pdf
    geta new life, please read and then shutttttttt up til you know what your talking about.
    a man with limited intelligence and outdated information is a dangerous person. Do your research and then get back to us.

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    " Page VI, LSD/BOE General Fund Estimated Budget for 2012-2013 "

    VIII. Appropriated Surplus: Layman's Terms=Slush Fund/Too much HIDDEN monies; Instead of making a nice flow chart they put all the below monies into a paragraph form while switching words such as appropriated,reduce,used,surplus, and levied .....all in an attempt for people to glance over it!

    Year end ( June 30 ) of EVERY School Year SURPLUS +++++ ACTUAL Amount used FROM the surplus that the BOE has used to buy down Budget TAX LEVYevery year to keep taxes slowly creeping every year, thinking people/businesses don't notice! Kind of like the IRS but at least we get a REFUND check from them!


    2002-03' SURPLUS $2,551,494/ Used $2,050,000
    2003/04' SURPLUS $2,925,722/ Used $2,350,000
    2004/05' SURPLUS $3,321,353/ Used $2,450,000
    2005/06' SURPLUS $2,938,049/ Used $2,250,000
    2006/07' SURPLUS
    2007/08' SURPLUS $4,833,420/ Used $3,525,000
    2008'09' SURPLUS $6,277,610/ Used $4,000,000
    2009/10' SURPLUS
    2010/11' SURPLUS $7,524,456/ used $4,7000,000
    2011/12' SURPLUS $7,749,557/ Used$5,300,000
    2012/13' SURPLUS to be appr. $7.75 mil again as of June 30, 2012 per Sam M. the "School Business Official "who admittedly told us is 72, currently retired from LSD but on payroll for years for $94,800 and $120,000 in 2012/13' Budget!


    Folks this is some really BIG money as you know!
    The BOE has allowed the current $7,749,557 amount to grow soooooo large that it is almost criminal for them to keep that much of TAX PAYERS money floating around in cyberspace! Money that should be put back into the hard-working struggling families pocket space! I don't care if it is a nickel! Tops doesn't let you go for a penney, people need that nickel!

    Today's' News article....you can read the whole thing if you want to.....but notice what the Tonawanda Schools did with their APPROPRIATED SURPLUS!



    city schools aired in Tonawanda


    By Mark Ciemcioch
    Northtowns Correspondent
    Published:May 9, 2012, 12:00 AM

    With the budget vote a week away, the Tonawanda City School District held a public hearing Tuesday night that outlined the proposed $29.5 million spending plan.

    The proposed budget includes a spending decrease of 1.65 percent but would raise the tax levy by 1.93 percent.

    Joseph A. Giarrizzo, business administrator for the district, said that Tonawanda has managed to keep the tax levy flat over the last few years and that this year’s proposal represents the first tax levy increase that city residents have seen in four years.

    “The board has done a really good job at holding the line on the tax levy,” Giarrizzo said. “We’re less than we were five years ago. The tax levy has come nowhere near the inflation [rate].”

    Other key points noted by Giarrizzo included an explanation of the district’s anticipated revenue, 52 percent of which comes from the state, which increased funding by $355,558. The increase helps offset the loss of nearly $800,000 from federal economic-stimulus funding that expired this year.

    Tax levy collections account for about 22 percent of anticipated revenues, and Tonawanda plans to use about $1.1 million from its fund balance savings.

    About 70 percent of the district’s budget is tied to programs, which is considered to be anything not tied to administration or capital costs. Salaries and benefits for employees account for 66 percent of the budget.

    Not mentioned in the presentation was the elimination of 17 full-time-equivalent positions within the district to help close a budget gap.

    Giarrizzo said that class sizes in the district would continue to be optimal and that all programs will remain intact.

    After the hearing, the Board of Education held a meeting that honored many of the district’s sports teams, as Tonawanda concluded one of the more successful overall seasons the Warriors have ever had.

    Members of the varsity girls and boys swim, girls and boys bowling, and girls and boys varsity basketball teams and wrestler Cody McGregor were recognized for championships, while members of the boys varsity swim team were honored for being scholar-athletes.

    The board also recognized National Technical Honor Society inductees and a regional spelling bee champion, as well as three staff members for their work in the district.

    ************************************************** ************************************************** ********************************

    This LSD/BOE is trying to BS the general public....there is a lot of SURPLUS money on top of HUGE " estimates " used to inflate the tax levy. Tonawanda BOE gave their taxpayers a leaner Budget......what the bleep are they pulling in the LSD?
    And WHY/HOW did they SAVE almost $8mil with all the CUTS and good deeds they supposedly do for us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by getalife123 View Post
    Lackawanna #1. Thank you for re-posting my words. This posting was prophetic because in todays Front Page there is Geoff, Makeyenko and Gambino pictured. A picture speaks a thousand words. Is there not an Elementary retiree and therefore a teacher position open in September. How stupid can they be? Truly jobs for the annointed family/friends.
    Remember.........

    As far as we know the current Lackawanna School Board President who was on a cane years ago......then soon became the Lackawanna Municipal Housing-Authority's RECREATION LEADER........and now is the maintenance/custodian person at the LMHA senior building at 600 Ridge Road.......is also last I knew, one of the.......
    CITY of LACKAWANNA MARSHALLS' at $55.00 a pop for every warrant he serves!

    Way to go FAMILY and FRIENDS club, way to go!Keeping it real! slurp-slurp!

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