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    Proof Please Obama - Are you really a US citizen?

    The fight is still on in an attempt too have Obama produce, which has yet to happen, his vault original birth certificate for verification.
    There has been a lawsuit filed by a Phillip Berg earlier this year that was dismissed.
    Mr. Berg plans to file in US Supreme Court. See http://obamacrimes.com

    Meanwhile there are other lawsuits filed in individual states challeging President Elect Obamas claim to be a US born Citizen.

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Vice presidential Candidate filing lawsuit against Obama
    Contact: Steve Marquis
    Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
    Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
    Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org
    Wiley S. Drake, Sr. wileydrake@hotmail.com


    Vice presidential Candidate Wiley S. Drake Sr. to file in court asking to
    de-certify Barack Obama because he has refused to release proof of being a Natural Born Citizen, thereby disqualifying Obama in his bid for the Office of President.

    The recent Lawsuit in Washington State demanding their Secretary of State to vet the citizenship credentials of Barack Obama has spawned a slew of similar suits with new lawsuits filed and/or prepared in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, FL, CT, GA, TX, MI. Related lawsuits HI, US District.

    As part of this effort, this group of citizens from states across the union made an outreach to the whole presidential slate asking each candidate for president and vice president to offer up a certified copy of their birth certificates and any related candidate declarations to be placed in a library made available to the public via a non-partisan web site.

    At least one VP candidate Wiley S. Drake Sr. went the next step and agreed to file a lawsuit of his own to demand the disqualification of Barack Obama unless he can prove status as a ”Natural Born Citizen” as the constitution and federal statues demand and define.

    In another unrelated action, though also aimed at forcing Obama to release proof or step down, 24 potential Electoral College electors are filing action Monday morning in court also demanding proof. A call is herein being issued to any elector in any state, especially democrat electors who would like to join that effort. Electors interested in adding their name to this lawsuit can contact Mr. Marquis who will put you in contact with the attorney handling that case.



    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Lawsuits Battle In Connecticut and California against Obama
    Contact: Steve Marquis
    Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org
    Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
    Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org


    Ø Cort Wrotnowski of Connecticut filed suit against the Secretary of state last week and will be heard before the Connecticut Supreme Court today. He will argue that Obama has fraudulently displayed an irrelevant document claiming it validated his claim to Natural born Citizenship when in fact it does not.
    Ø Copy of his filing may be found at http://www.peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Lawsuits/CTpleading_%20Motion.htm
    While there has been much controversy from one expert camp or another demonstrating that even groups like snopes or factcheck have become partisan, Wrotnowski sidesteps the whole question of authenticity and proves that Obama is displaying the wrong document altogether and is making fraudulent claims that it proves citizenship when it does not.

    The two very different certificates can be seen side by side at this site – no experts required. Anyone can easily understand. http://www.peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Birth_Certificate.htm

    This effort is on the heels of 2 recent lawsuits in Ohio and 1 in Washington State by Steve Marquis. The message is the same that Mr. Obama is hiding something Big and is using every effort to keep it that way. No lawsuit to date has been through out on the merits of the case, Obama’s skillful use of technicalities has shielded him to date on having to answer one substantive question and NO birth Certificate has yet to be released.

    Complicit allies in some media circles have tried to downplay lawsuit after lawsuit, but they wont go away but keep building because the people demand to know and wont go away quietly into the night!

    Cort argued, “It is preposterous that Mr. Obama is flaunting this fraud and wont pony up his vault copy birth certificate” A recent AP story about the Hawaiian Health Department officials notably failed to confirm any detail that would tell us which if any Hawaiian city /hospital he was born in. Notable the Certification of birth” Obama display is in fact routinely issued for babied born out of State by mothers claiming Hawaiian previous residency

    The two birth certificates are shown side by side at this web site and it does not take an expert to see the problem – You could not get on most little league teams with the Barack version!

    Ø In a Separate Lawsuit in California, Monday 11/3 Pam Patterson Esq of California, a Lawyer will argue in Superior Court. She filed suit naming Obama himself and several complicit government entities which she argues should have had some reasonable oversight but did nothing as the Obama machine trampled the constitution regarding the persistent issue accusing him of not being a non-natural born citizen. Pam will argue that “only someone perpetrating a fraud would withhold this document that is freely used and shown by most all Americans. What does that say about Barack?”


    “An investigation into Obama’s reentry into the states and his mothers residency requirements may show that he is not even entitled to a green card.” Said Steve Marquis. “I will continue to track the progress of related and unrelated lawsuits aimed at the largest rash of lawsuits ever filed to see a lousy birth certificate,”
    We issue this call to Barack:
    Stand up Obama or Stand Down”
    . You are not going to have it both ways. We will have no usurper as commander in Chief.

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    From your article:

    "No one has ever seen even a copy of his birth certificate"

    Last week we had two officials in Hawaii say they'd inspected it and considered it valid. Hawaii law prohibits it being released to anyone but family members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave338 View Post
    From your article:

    "No one has ever seen even a copy of his birth certificate"

    Last week we had two officials in Hawaii say they'd inspected it and considered it valid. Hawaii law prohibits it being released to anyone but family members.
    Obama can release it.
    First Amendment rights are like muscles, if you don't exercise them they will atrophy.

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    Done

    Get over it! Obama is President and there is nothing you can do. Move on, and let's get to work!

    We need action and no more complaining. Move forward not backwards.

    McCain lost fair and square. Go fight for California's Prop 8 which is the only debate now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mesue View Post
    Obama can release it.
    Mesue, why should he? If I demanded to see your birth certificate, would you do it?

    The questions concerning Obama's birthplace are redundant. Do you really think if there was some kind of fraud on this issue, the repubs wouldn't have found it and made it public, before this time?

    Give it all a rest, please, and we on this side will respect you all, much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steiny View Post
    Get over it! Obama is President and there is nothing you can do. Move on, and let's get to work!

    We need action and no more complaining. Move forward not backwards.

    McCain lost fair and square. Go fight for California's Prop 8 which is the only debate now.
    He has not yet been elected President. That is what the electoral college does. We also do not have to move forward if there is still a question of doubt with the American people of his Constitutional requirement to hold the office.
    From the article 24 electors have signed on for Obama to provide the birth certificate.

    Having 2 unknowns to the world say, "we've seen it and it looks real to us," but not show the world is questionable. As if you couldn't pay off an official? Happens here in lowly WNY. Just ask "Smokin' Joe" and Ionnello.

    Also if it is real then just let the world see that it is. Why would that be such a problem? Being this elusive about something that every American citizen has had to show has proof of citizenship to move in and out of countries seems unnecessary and specious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speaker View Post
    Mesue, why should he? ...
    Because the is doubt.
    First Amendment rights are like muscles, if you don't exercise them they will atrophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speaker View Post
    Mesue, why should he? If I demanded to see your birth certificate, would you do it?

    The questions concerning Obama's birthplace are redundant. Do you really think if there was some kind of fraud on this issue, the repubs wouldn't have found it and made it public, before this time?

    Give it all a rest, please, and we on this side will respect you all, much more.
    Your not running for POTUS and have an known questionable origin of birth.

    We, who want to know, won't have any respect for any of you if it turns out he is not a native born American.

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    LH - I hate to state the obvious, but you really are a loser.

    Worse than that, you're at the point, where, instead of wishing the best for your country, you are wishing the worst.

    When does the assassination countdown begin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by therising View Post
    LH - I hate to state the obvious, but you really are a loser.

    Worse than that, you're at the point, where, instead of wishing the best for your country, you are wishing the worst.

    When does the assassination countdown begin?
    Wishing that the Constitution of the US is upheld is somehow wishing the country the worst.
    I consider it working for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHardy View Post
    Wishing that the Constitution of the US is upheld is somehow wishing the country the worst.
    I consider it working for the best.
    Have the other 43 President all been required to show Birth Certificates?

    If you really gave a damn about the Country, you would accept, and support the new President. If he ****s up, then you have every right (and responsibility) to say so.
    Until then, just shut the **** up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHardy View Post
    Wishing that the Constitution of the US is upheld is somehow wishing the country the worst.
    I consider it working for the best.
    Then why did you vote for W the second time?

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    The whole world is celebrating this election. I turned on the Canadian news channel, The National, the day after the election, and they were overjoyed and hopeful again. Europe is energized and hopeful, because the actions of the USA impact the whole world.

    Hardy, you are the new type of Republican who says "I do whatever my master tells me". You are definitely not the old GOP, which had principles. Mesue votes for someone because he calls himself Christian and is anti abortion. Bush is one of the most unChristian politicians we've ever been unlucky enough to have.

    I just don't respect those values.

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    Really? You're serious LHardy?

    I've never seen Ronald Reagan's birth certificate. Should we start an 'investigation' and lawsuits until Reagan's birth certificate is revealed? And until a birth certificate is revealed, should we remove any reference of his name from history books?

    Additionally, give us a reason that you do not believe the officials in Hawaii that they looked at his birth certificate and it was valid. Is this 'just because' you hate Obama, or is there a VALID reason you don't believe them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speaker View Post
    The whole world is celebrating this election. I turned on the Canadian news channel, The National, the day after the election, and they were overjoyed and hopeful again. Europe is energized and hopeful, because the actions of the USA impact the whole world.
    Yes but you have to understand that these people have the "U.S. Against Them" mindset. They think the entire world is out to destroy the U.S. like some kind of sci-fi drama.

    It's that kind of mentality that perpetuates wars and hatred among people, but they don their tinfoil hats and think they're justified.

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