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    I am all for term limits on all government levels, and many people misunderstand what is term limits. Terms limits are for one thing, and one thing only they are to prevent too much nepotisms in one government entity or agency. What disenfranchise voters are the voters themselves by not voting or getting involved with politics. Look around America is heading in fact, has begun to be a socialist country one day all you will see is government asking you for your papers at Walmart. With that said, it all begins at the local levels. Once you lose the Town governments the state governments follow. I say, we need to fight, fight so what is ours. Not too many families can say they are Revolutionary War families but I can, and my view to watching this country being rip apart for political votes sucks. People like Slater, Holtz, others do poor work if this was 1920 they would be called mobster. NO…I am for term limits. Voters who think they are disenfranchised its their own fault.
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    There are term limits its called an election if the people want the person out they vote them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbird View Post
    There are term limits its called an election if the people want the person out they vote them out.
    No... we should do term limits. Only people who would be against term limits are people on the receiving end of our tax dollars



    I wonder how long our "businessmen" to second this and get the ball going.

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    Monroe County

    he county was exclusively governed by a Board of Supervisors for the first 114 years of its history. In 1935, the position of County Manager, appointed by the Board, was approved by popular referendum.[4] In 1983, the position was replaced by a County Executive, directly elected by popular vote, with expanded powers (e.g., veto).[5] In 1993, the legislature enacted term limits for the executive office of 12 consecutive years to start in 1996
    Town of Greece, NY has term limits

    http://greeceny.gov/aboutgreece

    Clarkstown Taxpayers Meet Term Limits Petition Goal Early

    http://nyack.patch.com/articles/clarkstown-taxpayers-meet-term-limits-petition-goal-early

    “We have exceeded our goal of 3,000 signatures and expect to have 400 citizens show up at the August 16th Town Board Meeting to help us press our case,” said Mike Hirsch founder of Clarkstown Taxpayers.
    The petition seeks to limit the terms of the town’s supervisor and council member positions and prevent them from serving more than eight consecutive years. Organization members began collecting signatures in June and reached the 3,000 mark by the end of July - prior to the group’s cutoff date of August 10.

    There are more throughout the USA.

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    Who the hell cares about monroe county

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    term limits are an affirmative action program for political losers like4 Ted.

    term limits are for elitist politicians who don't trust voters.


    angela might just as well propose that a naive inexperienced non-property owner who gets elected should get a no=opponent election to a second term just in case the majority of voters slap their foreheads and say "what were we thinking!"

    angela is going to learn about term limits.

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    Right on nogods

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    [QUOTE=nogods;910137]term limits are an affirmative action program for political losers like4 Ted.

    term limits are for elitist politicians who don't trust voters.


    angela might just as well propose that a naive inexperienced non-property owner who gets elected should get a no=opponent election to a second term just in case the majority of voters slap their foreheads and say "what were we thinking!"



    Is there a requirement for property ownership to hold elected office? I must have missed that one

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    [QUOTE=Dan Roman;910512]
    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    term limits are an affirmative action program for political losers like4 Ted.

    term limits are for elitist politicians who don't trust voters.


    angela might just as well propose that a naive inexperienced non-property owner who gets elected should get a no=opponent election to a second term just in case the majority of voters slap their foreheads and say "what were we thinking!"



    Is there a requirement for property ownership to hold elected office? I must have missed that one
    No there isn't. And that proves the point that term limits aren't needed to elect an inexperienced minority party transient to the board.

    Term limits exclude people from running for office, and when potential candidates are excluded voters choices are limited for no good reason other than increasing the chances of the former losers. Term limits are no different than a law that requires candidates to be property owners.

    The irony is that Angela is saying the voters of Cheektowaga can't be trusted to make good choices - and she is proving that to be true.

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    Comparing apples and oranges but good try. We'll see if this goes to some type of public hearing.

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    No there isn't. And that proves the point that term limits aren't needed to elect an inexperienced minority party transient to the board.
    I would rather have an inexperienced new board member instead of a "party serving" board member. Term limits do not exclude people from running for office except those who hit the term limit.

    The irony is that Angela is saying the voters of Cheektowaga can't be trusted to make good choices - and she is proving that to be true.
    A large block of voters were mislead by the "progressive democrats" last election. I'll take inexperience versus people who mis-lead our community. How do you trust a group of people who send out misleading election material nogods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roman View Post
    Comparing apples and oranges but good try. We'll see if this goes to some type of public hearing.
    I'm waiting to read in the Bee what "our two businessmen" will do.

    If "our two businessmen" want to put in their literature how they will use their experience to run our town I would like to know when it is going to start.

    Nogods? You know what excuse is getting old? "Our hands our tied" we can't do anything. For starters let us remove anyone from our board who was involved in tying our hands in the first place. Our entire town's best interest needs to be considered not a small select political group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I would rather have an inexperienced new board member instead of a "party serving" board member. Term limits do not exclude people from running for office except those who hit the term limit.



    A large block of voters were mislead by the "progressive democrats" last election. I'll take inexperience versus people who mis-lead our community. How do you trust a group of people who send out misleading election material nogods?
    The majority of voters disagreed with you. The majority of voters think ted was misleading the community. So now you want to use term limits to achieve by law what you couldn't achieve at the polls.

    Didn't Ted run on the platform that he would only serve 2 terms? Do you understand the concept of voting? Ted's 2-year term platform was rejected by the majority of voters. Why is that such a difficult concept for losers to understand? Remember Crazy Carl after the election telling Cuomo he had better carry out Carl's platform, the platform the voters rejected?

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    Like nogods said the people dont want term limits they proved that in the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    The majority of voters disagreed with you. The majority of voters think ted was misleading the community. So now you want to use term limits to achieve by law what you couldn't achieve at the polls.

    Didn't Ted run on the platform that he would only serve 2 terms? Do you understand the concept of voting? Ted's 2-year term platform was rejected by the majority of voters. Why is that such a difficult concept for losers to understand? Remember Crazy Carl after the election telling Cuomo he had better carry out Carl's platform, the platform the voters rejected?
    Apparently you do not understand the concept of voting.

    Let me go slowly for you

    Angela won.

    That majority of voters spoke and that is why she is sitting on our town board.

    This is even after the "progressive democrats" mislead our community with misleading election material. People who need to lie and mislead to win should not be on any town board.

    I do not see any harm coming from having term limits.

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