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    Next Town Councilmen??? Hicks/Osmanski Wirth/Nagy

    Wouldn't that be interesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by be true to yourself
    Wouldn't that be interesting?
    In my opinion Hicks and Osmanski had their chance.
    “We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson

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    I think Chris Osmanski deserves credit for leading the effort to get the Town of West Seneca up to the 21st Century with a Comprehensive Plan. It was the only visionary action of the Town Board in my recent recollection. A lot of benefits could be brought to the Town if the Comprehensive Plan were followed and updated periodically with public involvement. The Comprehensive Plan could provide a framework for analyzing such expenditures as ice rinks, senior centers, sewer improvements, other capital projects as well as projects proposed by others. The Plan reflects a collective vision for the residents - to have a Town government that provides the services and quality of life we seek. Chris Osmanski had to swim up stream against a lot of inertia to get that Plan funded, developed and then passed.

    Another person who deserves recognition for her efforts is Christina Bove. She not only supported the Comprehensive Plan but she has been a consistent "student" of land use, environmental, water quality and community issues that we have dealt with in the West Seneca Environmental Commission. She is the only Town Board or Planning Board member to have attended all of the SEQRA, Subdivison, and Water Quality workshops. (Osmanski and Paul Notaro attended one or two, also.) She also, I might add, is the groundbreaking Town Board member who ran and won without being in the "club" that dominates West Seneca politics. No family members employed by the Town or any local government, no relatives manipulating the backroom deals, just good old fashioned work for the people who elected her.

    In my opinion, it is very important that the Town Board members have the intellectual capacity to understand the nuances of the Town Board's power to regulate for the "health, safety and welfare" of the Town's residents, as well as an ethical motivation for seeking office.

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    Mr. Osmanski does deserve a lot of credit for his efforts and success with regards to the comprehensive plan. I believe that this has truly started a process of planning development that was long over due.

    I was quite proud of the Town Board in denying a project that would have involved rezoning that would have been inconsistent with the comprehensive plan.

    The Town Board as of late is actually discussing and debating the issues of the town and it is quite refreshing.

    My comment about Mr. Osmanski and Mr. Hicks was not a comment on their respective performance while in office. However, in the time when the voters seek change they are perceived as representing the status quo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtwarren
    Mr. Osmanski does deserve a lot of credit for his efforts and success with regards to the comprehensive plan. I believe that this has truly started a process of planning development that was long over due.

    I was quite proud of the Town Board in denying a project that would have involved rezoning that would have been inconsistent with the comprehensive plan.

    The Town Board as of late is actually discussing and debating the issues of the town and it is quite refreshing.

    My comment about Mr. Osmanski and Mr. Hicks was not a comment on their respective performance while in office. However, in the time when the voters seek change they are perceived as representing the status quo.
    Are you kidding me? Osmanski? Reading that post, I threw up in my mouth

    Hicks and Osmanski were the the two horrible councilmembers. Probably the worst of all-time in WS. The only time they did anything was when they were up for re-election. They were puppets. Osmanski handed out old halloween candy trying to get re-elected. He did nothing for this town in positive way in my own opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wnyfuture
    Are you kidding me? Osmanski? Reading that post, I threw up in my mouth
    Well you should stop eating those Dunkin Donuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by wnyfuture
    Are you kidding me? Osmanski? Reading that post, I threw up in my mouth

    Hicks and Osmanski were the the two horrible councilmembers. Probably the worst of all-time in WS. The only time they did anything was when they were up for re-election. They were puppets. Osmanski handed out old halloween candy trying to get re-elected. He did nothing for this town in positive way in my own opinion.
    Are you saying Mr. Osmanski did not work in favor of the comprehensive plan?


    Regardless of your opinion on a persons record as whole does not preclude giving credit where credit is due. To do so would just harm your own credibility.
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    [QUOTE=dtwarren]


    The Town Board as of late is actually discussing and debating the issues of the town and it is quite refreshing.

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    Maybe the Comprehensive plan.
    But how do you explain a no vote one month than a yes vote a couple of months later on the same item? We need strong leaders that will make a decision and stand by it.

    Not change their minds.
    and
    Not yell at one another in public.

    I re-call very professional acting leaders when Osmanski/Hicks were in place. Not the chaos and lack of respect for each other that goes on at every single board meeting.

    We need to Protect West Seneca and not allow "child like" behavior to continue.

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    [QUOTE=Protect West Seneca]
    Quote Originally Posted by dtwarren


    The Town Board as of late is actually discussing and debating the issues of the town and it is quite refreshing.

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    Maybe the Comprehensive plan.
    But how do you explain a no vote one month than a yes vote a couple of months later on the same item? We need strong leaders that will make a decision and stand by it.

    Not change their minds.
    and
    Not yell at one another in public.

    I re-call very professional acting leaders when Osmanski/Hicks were in place. Not the chaos and lack of respect for each other that goes on at every single board meeting.

    We need to Protect West Seneca and not allow "child like" behavior to continue.
    Part of discussion and public debate is to form one's opinion on how one should vote on an issue. People change their minds all the time based on new information or changes in the issue, if one cannot listen to new information and observe changes and then objectively re-analyze their position and act, then they are of no use as an elected representative.
    “We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by be true to yourself
    Wouldn't that be interesting?
    We know Osmanski/Hicks and Brian Wirth..but Who is Nagy? Please ...do tell.

    My thought is: fresh new, honest, board members would be wonderful.

    Reading all the articles in the Bee and the News....every single member looks crazy. Between yelling at each other at public meetings, doing a 360 on votes within a 6 month period, tabling items, allowing whooping and hallowing from the audience - Its disturbing. I have attended several meetings, therefore, this is not a rumor, but the truth.

    As a taxpayer,....please for the sake of West Seneca (which is a great town) get your acts together.

    Why don't the board member videotape the meetings -look at it after the meeting, maybe than you can act more than adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protect West Seneca
    We know Osmanski/Hicks and Brian Wirth..but Who is Nagy? Please ...do tell.
    That is Dan Nagy who is currently on the WS School Board.
    “We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson

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    Yes!

    Quote Originally Posted by dtwarren
    That is Dan Nagy who is currently on the WS School Board.

    How could I forget! He was also on the Town Community Development Corp board, wasn't/isn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldTymeRevival
    How could I forget! He was also on the Town Community Development Corp board, wasn't/isn't he?
    And you people want to elect republican/School board Dan Nagy and BW who spends more time in Wally's office than anyone? Let's just ask Paul Clark to make a run with Hicks and Osmanski. We need businessmen/women, not a career politician, running off someone's name, and no association with the current board and especially not the school board.

    -Strong Businessmen/Women
    -Highly Educated (I believe Bachelor's is a must, perhaps a masters)
    -Honest
    -Clean Record/No questionable past
    -Not associated with the current board or any group in this town
    -Keeps promises
    -Does what is right for the town not for their family or friends

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    Yes, I think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by wnyfuture
    And you people want to elect republican/School board Dan Nagy and BW who spends more time in Wally's office than anyone? Let's just ask Paul Clark to make a run with Hicks and Osmanski. We need businessmen/women, not a career politician, running off someone's name, and no association with the current board and especially not the school board.

    -Strong Businessmen/Women
    -Highly Educated (I believe Bachelor's is a must, perhaps a masters)
    -Honest
    -Clean Record/No questionable past
    -Not associated with the current board or any group in this town
    -Keeps promises
    -Does what is right for the town not for their family or friends

    ++++

    Experience along with a willingness to learn more, and a seasoned and proven track record in administrative management, along with the ability to network are all good qualities in any prospective candidate. The charge that past experience or past practice somehow should disqualifies someone is ludicrous and dismisses the candidates ability to build on their strengths.

    If you simply don't like these men, then just say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wnyfuture
    And you people want to elect republican/School board Dan Nagy and BW who spends more time in Wally's office than anyone? Let's just ask Paul Clark to make a run with Hicks and Osmanski. We need businessmen/women, not a career politician, running off someone's name, and no association with the current board and especially not the school board.

    -Strong Businessmen/Women
    -Highly Educated (I believe Bachelor's is a must, perhaps a masters)
    -Honest
    -Clean Record/No questionable past
    -Not associated with the current board or any group in this town
    -Keeps promises
    -Does what is right for the town not for their family or friends


    Business sense is a plus. Education sounds good, but it's really a feel good qualification (unless it was a financial background). Honesty is always appreciated, but how do you measure it? Agreed on the record, but as has been mentioned, many have made mistakes. No associations would be a plus, but with a Town this small it will never happen. Promise keeping and politician don't mix. Agreed on the last point.

    While I agree with most of your criteria, I do find it funny that you mention "republican". As if that matters one iota. How have the democrats done for NY as a whole, and West Seneca specifically? No need to answer, it's obvious.

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