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    “Can Buffalo Ever Come Back?”

    Professor Edward L. Glaeser, author of “Can Buffalo Ever Come Back?” an article published in City Journal, will be in Buffalo to participate in a forum to discuss his controversial article.

    It will be held at WNED Studios downtown on the Lower Terrace April 18th 2-4pm. The forum costs $30. Perhaps there should be an effort to negotiate a "poverty, no dinner rate"?


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    Look Out! Glaeser Ahead!

    Today, 9:12am By Eli George

    Get ready Buffalo. Here comes a big one.

    David Torke of http://fixbuffalo.blogspot.com was kind enough to send Buffalo Rising some information on an upcoming event that is sure to make waves. Many of you might remember a Queenseyes post about this topic and get ready for it again, because he’s coming in-person.

    Professor Edward L. Glaeser, author of “Can Buffalo Ever Come Back?” an article published in City Journal, will be in Buffalo to participate in a forum to discuss his article and its implications. Following his perspectives on this question will be a panel discussion with the following local leaders: Paul Buckley, Applied Sciences; Robert Gioia, The John R. Oishei Foundation; Anthony Armstrong, Local Initiatives Support Corporation; and Moderating the Panel is Margaret Sullivan of The Buffalo News.

    The event is co-sponsored by UB Regional Institute University at Buffalo, the Buffalo Niagara Partnership, and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It will be held at WNED Studios at Horizons Plaza on the Lower Terrace on April 18th from 2-4pm. The forum costs $30 to take part in with a reception immediately following the event. Space is limited and if you are interested in going, you can register online from this page

    http://www.thepartnership.org/Home/GetInvolved/Calendar

    right up until April 18th.

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    REMINDER: Harvard professor to speak about Buffalo

    This may be thought provoking.

    If you attend, please report back.

    http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregio...ry/322259.html

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    Edwin Glaeser, a Harvard University professor of economics, will participate in a forum and conversation on “Resurrecting Buffalo” with a local panel at 2 p.m. Friday.

    The forum will be held in WNED Studios, Lower Terrace. Registration is $30. For more information, call 541-1770 or visitwww.thepartnership.org/events.

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    I dont believe it will happen unless jobs are created that pulls some form of revenue into the area.

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    Yep. Need a large number of employed people;A fairly thriving economy;A much larger tax base and of course, city planners/politicians with true vision who take action

    The myopic, selfish politicians we've had and have have of course, been the greatest obstruction to Buffalo's slow, but realistic "rebirth"

    Employed people (in jobs they like) are usually happy people (if they have SOME discretionary income) who reinvest it in their local economies.

    -Albany lowers taxes and creates TRUE incentives for corporations to invest in New York State

    -Buffalo works with Albany to create incentives for large corporations to come to Buffalo

    -Any obstructionist politician gets petitions and other action by the citizens of Buffalo

    Thing that sucks is that the entire U.S. economy has experienced a major shift from manufacturing to service-oriented




    In a better, more prosperous Buffalo, the suburbs wouldn't be seen as an "escape" from the "dangers" of the city.




    Buffalo's in a kind of grey, apathetic limbo and if we can crawl out and stand proudly as a city, that would be wonderful.

    In the meantime, there should be NO "talking proud" slogan as there is very little to "talk proud" about.

    Same goes for "city of good neighbors" or "friendliest city" because it is NOT
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    I also think warehousing able bodied people in project settings does more harm than good.

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    Well we only really have two resources , our water (which must be gotten a lot cleaner someway ?) & our snowy winters to the southern towns , possibly 3 resources if this "medical corridor" takes off............Bethelhem Steel really ruined a lot of shoreline , if we could just clean up our shores , & the water , we would have a chance to make Buffalo noted again , but then again there's the problem of lack of any leadership.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by winfield31
    Well we only really have two resources , our water (which must be gotten a lot cleaner someway ?) & our snowy winters to the southern towns , possibly 3 resources if this "medical corridor" takes off............Bethelhem Steel really ruined a lot of shoreline , if we could just clean up our shores , & the water , we would have a chance to make Buffalo noted again , but then again there's the problem of lack of any leadership.............
    There are more resources then what you list.


    Water is a BIG one. While it is not as clean as it should be, that can be fixed.

    Power is another BIG one. However, the power and who it goes to needs to be adjusted. This is where Higgins messed up. Not only are large amounts of power going to companies that have little effect on the economy, downstate powers have taken the WNY allotment and dished it out downstate. If both of these are fixed, it would be huge.

    Another resource is the schools in the area. Some kids in suburban schools have a better education then kids from JUCO's in other parts of the US and college graduates are churned out year after year. The challenge is these kids need jobs. The region is in love with providing labor jobs and not jobs that thing.

    Another resource is the housing market. Taxes can be held or lowered but the cost of just housing is a big bonus if TAXES were not such an issue.

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    I'd like to add that our infrastructure, although aging and in need of repair, can handle growth.
    “Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” - Margaret Mead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Miller
    I'd like to add that our infrastructure, although aging and in need of repair, can handle growth.

    Good point Mike!


    The parks and streets need some work but they are already built.

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    Plus, here's another one: we're in close proximity to Niagara Falls and Southern Ontario and there are all sorts of untapped opportunities there.
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    And another: We have Chris Collins, a guy who knows a thing or two about what businesses need to thrive, looking to recruit new businesses to Erie County, specifically Buffalo. He's already mentioned trying to court Chinese businesses. Byron may have tried recruiting retail to come here, but that's sort of like him speaking Chinese to these companies. Collins knows what they want to hear.
    “Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” - Margaret Mead

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    I think Collins knows the formula for what types of businesses we need to come here. Even though many of the manufacturing jobs are not as high paying as they were, they are still needed. "Stuff" goes out, money comes in. Service industries creates some jobs, but pretty much just circulates money that's already here unless it's tied to tourism. He's right that we need to rebrand ourselves. And there's nothing wrong with using the Falls or Toronto and other places to draw vacationers. Look how much tourism did for French Lick Indiana, in the middle of NOWHERE, but they have a big tourism business. Buffalo could run circles around them in terms of offering things to do, day trips to take, or just seeing the sights in and around town.

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    I can't believe Buffalo got stuck with steve casey... I mean byron brown... You want real change and progress you don't elect life long politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS
    There are more resources then what you list.


    Water is a BIG one. While it is not as clean as it should be, that can be fixed.

    Power is another BIG one. However, the power and who it goes to needs to be adjusted. This is where Higgins messed up. Not only are large amounts of power going to companies that have little effect on the economy, downstate powers have taken the WNY allotment and dished it out downstate. If both of these are fixed, it would be huge.

    Another resource is the schools in the area. Some kids in suburban schools have a better education then kids from JUCO's in other parts of the US and college graduates are churned out year after year. The challenge is these kids need jobs. The region is in love with providing labor jobs and not jobs that thing.

    Another resource is the housing market. Taxes can be held or lowered but the cost of just housing is a big bonus if TAXES were not such an issue.
    you're right leftwny , power "would" be a big draw if they didn't KILL us with its' cost so downstaters could get more cheaply !? Our cheaper housing could be a big draw , but there's no jobs here to reason a great housing market , which BTW would change if we did . But new builds in Clarence , Lancaster , Alden , Orchard Park are actually depreciating right now as there's no real buyers............No one can afford their "asking" price , henceforth they sit on the market...........Check out the prices of homes "off" of Elmwood , from approx. North to Forest............$200,000+ to $600,000+ , & they're not "moving"...........I just was in one off of Elmwood , a 3 unit , wanted $225,000 for it , but it needed another $100,000/$150,000 in updates/upgrades , etc. ? What the hell is that about ? Suburban schools aren't bad , but not a draw to move from anywhere but the south..........& they're staying there because of our snow..............Plus we TAX everything , hidden taxes , IN YOUR FACE TAXES , taxes on taxes , now internet taxing ? WNY is in trouble , but we can change things , a group like this needs to come to a general consensus/compromise , with ideas for fighting these so-called leaders who are marching us straight into the abyss............Water , make them come for the water , charge them for the power WE generate , make state & county , & yes even cities/local towns governments "leaner" , lower the prevailing rate instead of a new higher rate each year............get rid of COLA (who gets COLA in 90% of places anymore if ever ?) So much to do , so little time...............
    Nothing gold can stay...............

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    Buffalo and Niagara Falls should be working together to attract people and business.

    There was actually a movement about 100 years ago to merge Buffalo and Niagara Falls into one large city called "Electric City."

    That would be awesome.

    Obviously we're not going to go such large scale, but we really should create a Buffalo/Niagara IDA.
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