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    Hey look, we're NOT miserable!

    America's Most Miserable Cities

    By Kurt Badenhausen, Forbes.com

    Feb 11th, 2008

    Imagine living in a city with the country's highest rate for violent crime and the second-highest unemployment rate. As an added kicker you need more Superfund dollars allocated to your city to clean up contaminated toxic waste sites than just about any other metro.

    Unfortunately, this nightmare is a reality for the residents of Detroit. The Motor City grabs the top spot on Forbes' inaugural list of America's Most Miserable Cities.

    Misery is defined as a state of great unhappiness and emotional distress. The economic indicator most often used to measure misery is the Misery Index. The index, created by economist Arthur Okun, adds the unemployment rate to the inflation rate. It has been in the narrow 7-to-9 range for most of the past decade, but was over 20 during the late 1970s.

    In Pictures: America's Most Miserable Cities

    There also exists a Misery Score, which is the sum of corporate, personal, employer and sales taxes in different countries. France took the top spot (or perhaps bottom is more appropriate) with a score of 166.8, thanks to a top rate of 51% on personal incomes and 45% for employer Social Security.

    But aren't there other things that cause Americans misery? Of course. So we decided to expand on the Misery Index and the Misery Score to create our very own Forbes Misery Measure. We're sticking with unemployment and personal tax rates, but we are adding four more factors that can make people miserable: commute times, weather, crime and that toxic waste dump in your backyard.

    We looked at only the 150 largest metropolitan areas, which meant a minimum population of 371,000. We ranked the cities on the six criteria above and added their ranks together to establish what we call the Misery Measure. The data used in the rankings came from Portland, Ore., researcher Bert Sperling, who last year published the second edition of Cities Ranked & Rated along with Peter Sander. Economic research firm Economy.com, which is owned by Moody's, also supplied some data.

    Detroit in the top spot, with its sister city Flint ranked third, is probably not a great shock. "If Detroit were a baseball team, we'd say they are mired in a slump," says Sperling. Both Detroit and Flint have suffered tremendously from the auto industry downturn. Flint's plight was immortalized in the Michael Moore movie Roger & Me, which chronicles Moore's attempts to meet with then General Motors Chief Executive Roger Smith.

    Crime and unemployment are closely linked, according to Sperling. Our three most miserable places bear that out (Stockton, Calif., ranks second). All three are among the eight worst cities in terms of both unemployment and violent crime.

    The United States' two biggest cities both induce a ton of misery. New York was the fourth most miserable city by our count, while Los Angeles clocked in at sixth. The Big Apple has the longest commute times (36.2 minutes) and the highest tax rates (10.5%) in the country. As the financial capital of the world and home to write-down kings Merrill Lynch and Citigroup , New York appears poised for more misery in 2008.

    The people of La-La Land have some of the best weather in the U.S. (it's ranked seventh) but scored poorly when it came to commute times, Superfund sites and taxes. And we did not even factor in air quality, where Los Angeles is the worst in the nation by far, according to Sperling.

    The biggest surprise on our list is Charlotte, N.C. , which is ranked ninth. Charlotte has undergone tremendous economic growth the past decade, while the population has soared 32%. But the current picture isn't as bright. Employment growth has not kept up with population growth, meaning unemployment rates are up more than 50% compared with 10 years ago. Charlotte scored in the bottom half of all six categories we examined. It scored the worst on violent crime, ranking 140th.

    So take heart, Detroit, you are not alone. After all, misery loves company

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    We're not miserable? Coulda fooled me

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    I saw this article and totally expected to see us in the top 3...someone isn't paying attention!

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    our new slogan........"Buffalo....at least we're not binghamton..."

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    The biggest surprise on our list is Charlotte, N.C. , which is ranked ninth. Charlotte has undergone tremendous economic growth the past decade, while the population has soared 32%. But the current picture isn't as bright. Employment growth has not kept up with population growth, meaning unemployment rates are up more than 50% compared with 10 years ago. Charlotte scored in the bottom half of all six categories we examined. It scored the worst on violent crime, ranking 140th.
    Sacrilege!!


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    They obviously didn't check out Buffalo while we were under the "Rep System"!

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    Buffalo hasn't seen miserable quite yet. Once all the smart people leave, this place is going to look like southwest PA.


    All it's going to take is a little bit more taxation and a little more union greed.
    I am so omniscient - if there were to be two omnisciences, I would be both.

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    Who said we were miserable. I'm too durn busy to be miserable.

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    NYC Ranked Fourth

    Oh great.... just great! New York City was ranked fourth and is "poised for more misery in 2008"! That means Upstate New york will suffer even more now! When the folks downsate have issues it seems the problems always back flows up into Buffalo somehow. They need a bigger sewer line or soemthing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concernedwnyer
    Oh great.... just great! New York City was ranked fourth and is "poised for more misery in 2008"! That means Upstate New york will suffer even more now! When the folks downsate have issues it seems the problems always back flows up into Buffalo somehow. They need a bigger sewer line or soemthing.
    All we'd have to do is build casino's, a convention center, and sports parks, legalize marijuana, cocaine, and prostitution, put the alcohol age back to 18, and the downstaters will come here and spend their money and everyone will be happy.

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    the nerve--not including us--the armpit of the nation!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by speaker
    the nerve--not including us--the armpit of the nation!!!
    How DARE you call Buffalo "the armpit of the nation?!"

    Buffalo's
    The CESSPOOL
    The TOILET
    The DOOR MAT
    The GARBAGE CAN
    The JOKE of the nation, darn it!!!


    And "WE'RE
    TALKING PROUD!!!"


    Loved reading that study.
    Course' the spin on these stats would be laughed at and "refuted" by government-sponsored economists and statisticians, citing all kinds of BS that:

    "unemployment and crime in America have been greatly exaggerated by the liberal left media"


    I know that there are MORE stressors that could EASILY be factored into this index;

    -Divorce rates
    -Satisfaction with marrige/personal life
    -Quality of one's health care (in a specific region)

    Sure that there's enough raw, reliable data out there to expand this measure of how much a city bites

    Me?

    Why, I LOVE Buffalo!! Yessir!
    We're in PARADISE here
    in America's SEPTIC TANK!!!


    "TALKING PROUD!!!"
    Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys.

    Emma Bull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvan
    All we'd have to do is build casino's, a convention center, and sports parks, legalize marijuana, cocaine, and prostitution, put the alcohol age back to 18, and the downstaters will come here and spend their money and everyone will be happy.
    Your post MIGHT come across as "simple" and "sarcastic" but honestly?

    You make perfect sense!

    This city would make an incredible reboud withing 5 to 10 years were your ideas to be implemented.


    But you MUST know this, Sylvan:

    Logic, common sense, bright, new, innovative ideas
    and concern for the citizen's welfare are strictly prohobitied by law in Buffalo, New York!


    "TALKING PROUD!!!"




    And people are VERY happy in Buffalo.
    You can see it on everyone's faces.
    Pure, unadulterated joy and bliss as people meet and greet each other in
    "the city of good neighbors."

    Employment and toxic waste and violent crime?
    Here?
    In the "friendliest city in the U.S.?"

    NONSENSE!!!

    WAY too many politicians and record-high nepotism draining the blood from the citizens?

    Sheer foolishness!!!
    We are a great, a noble city!
    Buffalo is the home of the great and powerful chicken wing!


    "TALKING PROUD!!!"
    Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys.

    Emma Bull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbfounded
    Buffalo is the home of the great and powerful chicken wing!


    "TALKING PROUD!!!"
    Ah yes, the quest to find the best deep-fried poultry arm continues.

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