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    Quote Originally Posted by Niagara
    Mr. Wantabe, you seem to have joined this forum, this month for the sole purpose of bashing Mark Lazarra. The WS Americorp is Mark Lazarra. If it were not for him, there would be no WSA because he not only runs it for a fairly small salary, but he funds it through GRANT MONEY. Much of his time is spent kissing ass to get the money to put those kids to work. If you Mr. Wantabe smell something, it is probably the crap in your pants.

    Iagree that Lazzara brought Americorps to WS but Americorps is not Mark Lazzara. If it wasn't for his staff, the program would have gone down the drain a long time ago. I'm not here to bash Lazzara, but to state facts. The program would be in better shape without him throwing around the money for trips, dinners, gifts, etc. He uses the grant money like its his own. And I don't think that $80,000 is a small salary. He gets a lot of perks along the way. Free gas, use of a town vehicle, travel anywhere he wants to go without having to get town approval. If you add that all up, his salary is way over 6 figures. But I'm not going to stoop to your low level of vulgarity and I'll just say that you need to look at the big picture and see what Lazzara is all about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of Ebenezer
    He almost assuredly has already run to whatever political big guns (no, Paul Clark jokes please) he can use in his defense if he's feeling pinched.

    How did you do that quote without a name thing ?
    You all seem to know him personally. Probably a few fired former employees in the group with ax to grind. Strange personal comments about sexuality and his daughter reflect a vindetta beyond a trip to NF. The fact is the WS Americorp is one of the most successful Americorp operations in the country. It brings money to the area, all be it federal money. Its presence has aided the development of the Birchfield Nature Park in WS. There is no one better qualifed to replace him, and to do so would run the risk of watching it disappear. As far as his staff being responsable for a winning record, look at JP Lossman. As far as 80000 being a large amount of money, not when you consider the budget of the organization, and the money he brings into the area, and the good that has been done. Bottomline is all the bitching on this forum, and calls to channel 2 by the little fish here is a joke.

    As far as quoteing without the name, you have to cut and paste [QUOTE] and /QUOTE] before and after the quote. Common sense really.
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    I like the park. You defend him without knowing him ? Is the "common sense really" a shot ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantabe
    Iagree that Lazzara brought Americorps to WS but Americorps is not Mark Lazzara. If it wasn't for his staff, the program would have gone down the drain a long time ago. I'm not here to bash Lazzara, but to state facts. The program would be in better shape without him throwing around the money for trips, dinners, gifts, etc. He uses the grant money like its his own. And I don't think that $80,000 is a small salary. He gets a lot of perks along the way. Free gas, use of a town vehicle, travel anywhere he wants to go without having to get town approval. If you add that all up, his salary is way over 6 figures. But I'm not going to stoop to your low level of vulgarity and I'll just say that you need to look at the big picture and see what Lazzara is all about!
    Mr. Wantabe, you joined this month, you have a total of 15 posts. Your whole focus has been Mark Lazarra. Any vulgarity was only response to other's. You point to some trips and dinners. You do not put any trips or dinners into any context, or expenses in context to total budget. Like you, I know him, have eaten with him. I know that his schedule revolves around getting the next dollar for his organization. He is the heart and soul of this organization, and he takes it very personally.
    On forums I get impressions of people by their name, their avatar, number of posts, and time on the forum. You give the impression that you joined because you have an ax to grind with Mr. Lazarra, probably personal. Further your name Wantabe indicates someone jealous of success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSense
    Are you one of his boys? Or possibly his misguided and incapacitated daughter? What afraid daddy might lose the gravy train and the free vehicles? Puss wad.

    When did AmeriCorp become his program? Last time I checked it was a federal program. Maybe if he stopped using Americorp like his own private business people would stop badgering him, you freak.
    One of the boys? What are you, a gay basher? Must be lonely with a puss like yours. What kind of a puss head would make sport of someone's children? A stinky one. Would love to see your kids, then again, NOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of Ebenezer
    I like the park. You defend him without knowing him ? Is the "common sense really" a shot ?
    I do know him. No, I am not employed by him. You joined in with shots at him. And yes, the common sense really was a shot at someone who seemed to not show common sense.

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    Let's get back to the facts here. It has been quite a popular issue that the Town of West Seneca has budget issues, namely "other expenses" that were noted regarding the ameriCorps and Youth Bureau programs.

    The intent of my questioning these trips, two in a row, one in NYC and the other in NF, is how are they registered with the budget?

    Who is paying for them?

    Are they under the multitude of grants that Lazzara has supposedly brought in?

    If the grants were brought into the Town of West Seneca, why are we not receiving the benefit of the money and the staffing?

    I am also concerned with the religious aspect of this past visit and how the separation of church and state seems to elude this.

    And, if Lazzara was such a damn saint, why does he seem to be the subject of much questioning regarding his position and more that goes further back than a month or so ago?

    As far as the political thing, wasn't it Lazzara that gave away tickets to a Paul clark fundraiser at the Youth Bureau offices? Way to pressure quietly, huh?

    No, if the Youth Bureau is Lazzara, then he has to answer to the issues.
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    Funny how "Niagara" now rears his head under this subject.
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    Further your name Wantabe indicates someone jealous of success.[/QUOTE]



    Wantabe refers to wantabe heard. I do have facts and figures and exact dates, etc. but I am not going to give out that info to just anyone. I am wondering if maybe you are one of his employees who is drawing down a fat paycheck because you sure seem to defend him strongly. What's he done for you?!!!

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    Niagara, just wondering, where you live? How does this affect you? Do you pay taxes in WS like I do? How do you know this guy, anyway? Seems yours is the only voice of dissent on this issue.
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    And another thing, where do you get off using the term "blacks"? Seems pretty stereotyped. "...the blacks..." How bout the people on the East side? African Americans? No, you use "...the blacks..." There's a lot of different hues out there. You seem to be a young white boy from the burbs. How's that make you feel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niagara
    One of the boys? What are you, a gay basher? Must be lonely with a puss like yours. What kind of a puss head would make sport of someone's children? A stinky one. Would love to see your kids, then again, NOT.
    No, I'm not a gay basher. I have many very good friends that are gay but Mark Lazarra is not one of my gay friends. Oh, I know he's married and has a daughter but really, what does that mean?

    As for his daughter, she's open game if she uses a town vehicle, gets into an accident, and is not responsible to pay for the costs because Daddy took care of everything.

    You must be a POS to be defending such an unprincipled person, then again you are probably his daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantabe
    Further your name Wantabe indicates someone jealous of success.
    Wantabe refers to wantabe heard. I do have facts and figures and exact dates, etc. but I am not going to give out that info to just anyone. I am wondering if maybe you are one of his employees who is drawing down a fat paycheck because you sure seem to defend him strongly. What's he done for you?!!![/QUOTE]
    Looks like you don't have that quote thing down, yet. Further, you sound like a disgruntled employee who has "acts and figures and exact dates, etc. but I am not going to give out that info to just anyone". And the "wantabe heard" thing makes you sound simply pathetic, like you don't have the guts to go toe to toe. Instead you lurk in an internet forum seeking likeminded pathetics. You are the one probably drawing down the paycheck.

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    AmeriCorps

    It was changed from WS to WNY AmeriCorps

    If the program is successful on its own, why doesn't ML collect his pay and and benefits solely from that program? Why should the citizens of WS pay for his salary, car, medical, retirement, etc.? (There appears to be a blurred line between what is AmeriCorps, and what is WSYB.) We could then combine the YB and Recreation Director positions into one position, requiring no Town vehicle. Mark would then be free to take AC to any community he wishes, or that wants it, the Burchfield Center could be used for several different activities that would generate revenue to the town, and we would save some money.

    This is where the ties need to be cut. Supporters, of ML, always refer to what the program brings into the community, as though it all comes to West Seneca. But the fact is, most the services provided go mostly to the City of Buffalo and it's residents. Niagara, apart from Burchfield, please list the AmeriCorps projects completed in W. Seneca vs. other areas. Please include those also worked out of state that utilize any monies acquired from the people of WS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niagara
    Wantabe refers to wantabe heard. I do have facts and figures and exact dates, etc. but I am not going to give out that info to just anyone. I am wondering if maybe you are one of his employees who is drawing down a fat paycheck because you sure seem to defend him strongly. What's he done for you?!!!


    You know where mindless spewing of bashing BS like this and so much you have written gets you?
    Ignored.
    You're defending the guy, either related or an employee or Mark himself, which it's your right to, but a word to the... whoever you are. You want to get your point across you do it in an intelligible/intelligent way, you use facts, instead of little-minded tactics of trying to belittle, bash, and insult your opponents.
    "You show what you are willing to fight for when you fight friends." - Hillary Rodham Clinton

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