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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of Ebenezer

    You asked me why I came in here if I don't like what you and those of your ilk say in here. It's the personal bias and slants that many in here who don't want to apply fairly, evenly and appropriately across the board and often with the spouting of meritless, baseless and out and out false insinuations. With some of your posts you've have helped foster this mentality.

    I agree, but to be fair Psycho is at least interested and passionate. His agenda may not be your agenda. Personally I think he/she is being naive in thinking that every thing is so cut and dry.
    I will say 2 things though...
    The supposed "warning" is laughable. The self annointed sheriff of west seneca just may have been picking up his chiclets if his jocularity was mistaken as something else.
    Let the 2 new members get up to speed on town business and the inner workings. I don't exactly think the other board members are going to pull the curtain back and air the dirty laundry.

    Bove may let her lap dog Clarke in on a few things, but aside from that I think the 2 new members are going to have to be Jr Detectives in order to make any headway.

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    If Bove and Clarke look into Lazzara is it due to their diligence or is it also personal ? You can't have it both ways. It's called hypocrisy. Something that is quite prevalent in here.
    Would the reason for looking into the matter really make any difference? Personal or not if something really isn't kosher? A fair amount of money is cranked through the program and what results do you actually see. Some of the payroll numbers seem rather high to sit in meetings and bs most of the time.

    Could anyone start a clean thread and acutally explain what they do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of Ebenezer
    Hey Wantabe,

    In your 4 posts you clearly seem to have a problem with Lazzara. Fair enough. You then state if Meegan were to look into Lazzara, which I would think you would appreciate and expect her to do as part of her job come Jan., you unfairly belittle her integrity by implying it's more about settling an old score for her father than what is right. You appear to have some sort of bias against her.

    If Bove and Clarke look into Lazzara is it due to their diligence or is it also personal ? You can't have it both ways. It's called hypocrisy. Something that is quite prevalent in here.

    Meegan and Piotrowski haven't been sworn into in office, and yet are catching more flak in here for things they have yet been able to do anything about unlike others who have been on the board and will still be after Jan 1.
    All I was saying is that there is a history between Lazzara and Sheila Meagan. You can't erase all the years that Chris Walsh was in office and fought with Lazzara and have Sheila forget about them. She carries some baggage but I do wish her well and hope that she will step up to the plate and make a difference in town politics. Don't take things so personal. I'm only stating the way I feel. I thought that's what this forum was about. You would think that the way you react, I was talking about you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident
    Would the reason for looking into the matter really make any difference? Personal or not if something really isn't kosher? A fair amount of money is cranked through the program and what results do you actually see. Some of the payroll numbers seem rather high to sit in meetings and bs most of the time.

    Could anyone start a clean thread and acutally explain what they do?
    I think you missed the point of my remark. It pertains to people intentionally maligning and misleading others with the clear intent of misrepresenting them so others will think ill of them regardless that it is not warranted or valid. That may be irrelevant to you, but it is largely why what is spewed in here is so difficult to be considered credible when so much biasness is evident.

    As far as your concerns about the merit of that program, which does raise an eyebrow, I'm sure you'll have no problem finding those in here ready to disect it endlessly and with not much more than hearsay and innuendo to back them up.

    (not you refering to you this time Psycho )

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantabe
    All I was saying is that there is a history between Lazzara and Sheila Meagan. You can't erase all the years that Chris Walsh was in office and fought with Lazzara and have Sheila forget about them. She carries some baggage but I do wish her well and hope that she will step up to the plate and make a difference in town politics. Don't take things so personal. I'm only stating the way I feel. I thought that's what this forum was about. You would think that the way you react, I was talking about you!
    Any revenge on anyone is so unlike Sheila's character. She did not run for office to right any wrongs against her father or anyone else in her family. Sheila simply wants to represent the people of West Seneca and hear what they say. I truly believe that she is not here for her own personal gains unlike many others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of Ebenezer
    I think you missed the point of my remark. It pertains to people intentionally maligning and misleading others with the clear intent of misrepresenting them so others will think ill of them regardless that it is not warranted or valid. That may be irrelevant to you, but it is largely why what is spewed in here is so difficult to be considered credible when so much biasness is evident.

    As far as your concerns about the merit of that program, which does raise an eyebrow, I'm sure you'll have no problem finding those in here ready to disect it endlessly and with not much more than hearsay and innuendo to back them up.

    (not you refering to you this time Psycho )
    Well why don't a group of people get togeather and physically start to look into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantabe
    All I was saying is that there is a history between Lazzara and Sheila Meagan. You can't erase all the years that Chris Walsh was in office and fought with Lazzara and have Sheila forget about them.
    You have said Mark Lazzara needs to go, am I correct ? Since Meegan announced her candidacy, Lazzara has been telling anyone who will listen and a lot of people do listen to Lazzara, he didn't get the votes he did to be school board president because everyone doesn't like him, that the only reason Meegan is running is to get him because of her father. Whether you realize it or not, you're only reinforcing what Lazzara says. You wish her well, yet validate Lazzara.

    Nothing personal, but I wouldn't want you on my side.

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    For Spirit of E & Fisher

    First, let's clear something up. I know both Dale and Sheila, and have spoken to them countless times before, during, and after the election. I've got there home numbers for god sake. I am not holding their feet to the fire, I only expect them to address the issues they ran on, just like any voter. The same can be said for Wally. He ran with the platform of cleaning things up in WS, I have his literature to back that up, so that's what I expect. Do not promise me steak, and then feed me hot dogs. Obviously, it will take time for the problems to be rectified, I am not naive to think this will magically be fixed with the wave of a hand.

    When Bove ran, she was all fire and brimstone, but amounted to little more than a smoldering ember. Perhaps, the new members might reignite her, who knows. Graber will no doubt sit in a corner and sulk that he lost his playmates.

    As far as the "warning" and picking up my "chiclets", they both know me it was meant in jest, especially to Clarke who was the boards biggest pain in the ass, and admits it! So just get over it already!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho1
    First, let's clear something up. I know both Dale and Sheila, and have spoken to them countless times before, during, and after the election. I've got there home numbers for god sake. I am not holding their feet to the fire, I only expect them to address the issues they ran on, just like any voter. The same can be said for Wally. He ran with the platform of cleaning things up in WS, I have his literature to back that up, so that's what I expect. Do not promise me steak, and then feed me hot dogs. Obviously, it will take time for the problems to be rectified, I am not naive to think this will magically be fixed with the wave of a hand.
    Thanks for clearing that up. I'll admit I may be reading too much in to what you were writing, but IMO you give the impression like they had better hit the ground running. That would be an ideal start, but I think that the status quo will be a hard thing to break.
    When Bove ran, she was all fire and brimstone, but amounted to little more than a smoldering ember. Perhaps, the new members might reignite her, who knows. Graber will no doubt sit in a corner and sulk that he lost his playmates.
    I know, I voted for her thinking she was going to kick ass and take names. I realize now that it wasn't going to be that easy when she was so out numbered. Hopefully you're right about the new blood revitalizing her.
    As far as the "warning" and picking up my "chiclets", they both know me it was meant in jest, especially to Clarke who was the boards biggest pain in the ass, and admits it! So just get over it already!
    I talked to Clarke about 10 minutes ago. He said he'd punch your lights out if you ever got snarky with him again...

    OK, I just made that up. I don't know you and they do. If they took it the way you meant it then that's fine. From my desk chair it "sounded" a little aggressive. You obviously didn't intend for your comment to be so distracting so I'll drop it just like Clarke's going to drop you if you get in his grill again...

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    Wow, Fisher and Eb taking on Psycho. Can't remember what post I seen it in,but Psycho, didn't you say that you had thick skin? These people are merely calling you on something you wrote. As for having Clarke and Meegans phone numbers, so what. I'll take you one better. I know where they live. Bite the bullet. I think your choice of a word, that being "warned", was just a bit on or over the edge. However, as far as the new board goes, remember, Rome wasn't built in a day. I believe, like you, that things will get done. You gave the others 16 years. Let's have patience.

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    You're more forgiving than me Fisher. I subscribe to the old theory if it looks like a duck.....and maintain until his bravado was called into question, he would continue to portray himself as the new sheriff in town you playfully stated. I gotta chuckle at how he now asks for me to get over it after just stating, like another just mentioned, of how he has such thick skin.

    I still think to some degree he's still blowing smoke about how tight he is with some of the people who's names he so easily throws around. I wonder how much they would appreciate that. He has their phone numbers, big deal ! They're in the phone book. I wouldn't be suprise if they cringe inside when he calls.

    I say this guy is grousing loudly after the re-org. meeting Jan. 1 when all his myopic whims don't become a reality, many of which are not realistic anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of Ebenezer
    You're more forgiving than me Fisher. I subscribe to the old theory if it looks like a duck.....and maintain until his bravado was called into question, he would continue to portray himself as the new sheriff in town you playfully stated. I gotta chuckle at how he now asks for me to get over it after just stating, like another just mentioned, of how he has such thick skin.

    I still think to some degree he's still blowing smoke about how tight he is with some of the people who's names he so easily throws around. I wonder how much they would appreciate that. He has their phone numbers, big deal ! They're in the phone book. I wouldn't be suprise if they cringe inside when he calls.

    I say this guy is grousing loudly after the re-org. meeting Jan. 1 when all his myopic whims don't become a reality, many of which are not realistic anyways.

    Boy! you are a tough one. Can I still say the sky is blue?
    Since this is going nowhere, let's just drop it.
    Not caving, just think it's pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho1
    this is going nowhere, just think it's pointless.
    Like your many posts and those of others who you lend credence to just so they follow your slanted lead to make you appear credible.

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    Psych, whats Up with that last post? Since I've been visiting these sights, you have held court as "the chosen one" from all your cronies. Now, you get challenged and want to get out of dodge. Your last sentence is priceless. Why is it pointless? Because you say so? Falling off your horse? Town watchdog? Someone has called you on the carpet and you want a truce. Whew, is that disappointing. Well true colors always come out in the end and you are beginning to fade to black. All because you're not used to being in position where you have to defend your posts. Good job Eb.

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    I'd rather side with Psycho1 than cave to the known politico a-kissers here.

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