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    Plane Crash/Gorja can you find this....

    If anyone can find this information for me, Gorja you are good at finding this information out.

    Someone told me that a plane ([prop) crashed out at the Genesee County//Batavia airport yesterday and the news zoomed in on Bob Miller Flight School. It stated it was his student pilot.

    If someone can retrieve this for me and post it ~~~ I would be grateful.
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    http://www.wben.com/Small-Plane-Cras...irport/8588359


    There was no mention of what flight school the instructor works for or if he is independent......

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    BTW, Google is your friend. All I did to find that was type in "Plane crash batavia ny" and it came right up. God helps those who help themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiona View Post
    BTW, Google is your friend. All I did to find that was type in "Plane crash batavia ny" and it came right up. God helps those who help themselves.
    Thanks fiona, some things come easily for others and some of us~~~it is harder.

    Well a prime example of what happens when student pilots are doing "touch & go's" and the dangers that lay ahead. It was an unpredictable accident and those of course are more concerning because they happen for no reason.

    That is why the group is advocating doing "touch & go's" over open land and not over housing at low altitude. This is a reasonable request based on these accidents that have been happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortstuff View Post
    Thanks fiona, some things come easily for others and some of us~~~it is harder.

    Well a prime example of what happens when student pilots are doing "touch & go's" and the dangers that lay ahead. It was an unpredictable accident and those of course are more concerning because they happen for no reason.

    That is why the group is advocating doing "touch & go's" over open land and not over housing at low altitude. This is a reasonable request based on these accidents that have been happening.
    Couple of questions

    What dangers lay ahead?

    How many have been happening?

    Statistically speaking are they increasing or decreasing?

    How many of these accidents that have been happening have caused property damage?

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    A landing gear up touch and go doesnt work very well.
    The first thing that touches the ground unfortunatly is the underside of your aircraft when you forget the wheels down.
    Some real high quality instruction there, can anyone say "landing checklist?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokes View Post
    Couple of questions

    What dangers lay ahead?

    How many have been happening?

    Statistically speaking are they increasing or decreasing?

    How many of these accidents that have been happening have caused property damage?
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    Dangers can be determined upon where it happens and how often. Hence this plane just crashed, the pilot was fine. What about the plane that crashed in the cornfields~~pilot was hurt.

    2. It happens allot (but this could be debated), go on the Bob Miller website over the airwaves, he has the stats. Pretty scarey.

    3. They seem to be increasing, the FAA seems to be very lucy goosy on regulations. Look at Flight 3407, pilot error, and fatique. It is happening more and more.

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    1. Danger, statistically defined, is the rate of injury or incident, thus the question to the current averages and whether they were increasing or decreasing, and by what percentage. Also how does this compare to other dangerous activities?

    2. Define a lot in relation to flight hours. Also what is the rate of increase or decrease, and how does it compare to other dangerous activities. This will help determine the extent of the danger.

    3. Seems to be is not a statistic.

    A statistic for example would be. Flight 3407 was a commercial flight in 2009 there were 2 fatal incidents in commercial flights out of 10.3 million departures. or a rate os 0.0000194% of commercial flights ended in a fatal accident.

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    Now yokes, you know better than to get all scientific and technical on this very emotional NIMBY topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yokes View Post
    1. Danger, statistically defined, is the rate of injury or incident, thus the question to the current averages and whether they were increasing or decreasing, and by what percentage. Also how does this compare to other dangerous activities?

    2. Define a lot in relation to flight hours. Also what is the rate of increase or decrease, and how does it compare to other dangerous activities. This will help determine the extent of the danger.

    3. Seems to be is not a statistic.

    A statistic for example would be. Flight 3407 was a commercial flight in 2009 there were 2 fatal incidents in commercial flights out of 10.3 million departures. or a rate os 0.0000194% of commercial flights ended in a fatal accident.
    Statistics can be determined by a formula. Placing the right chemicals to make the solution. So to put together a stat on something, you need information.

    How high
    how deep
    how many
    using data to come up with stats requires information.

    Therefore you can talk stats, but the reality is a plane crashed yesterday stat or not stat, luckly that student did not get hurt.

    Oh and fiona, you are too funny..

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    so you dont have any information to suport claims of
    Increased Accidents
    Increased Danger
    or
    what Flight School the student flyer in todays accident was from?

    Ok thats all you needed to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokes View Post
    so you dont have any information to suport claims of
    Increased Accidents
    Increased Danger
    or
    what Flight School the student flyer in todays accident was from?

    Ok thats all you needed to say
    Nope, I only know what happened yesterday to the plane. Now it was on the news and they showed a sign that said Bob Miller Flight School. So I am wondering if it was from his school.....

    And yokie dokie, that's all folks.....

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    Plane crashes 150 yards from runway.
    Pilot injured in single-engine plane crash
    The pilot of a single-engine airplane suffered a compound fracture of his right leg Friday night when his plane crashed into an embankment at the Genesee County Airport, state police said today.
    Patrick McCabe, of Caledonia, was attempting to take off at about 8:40 p.m., when the airplane became airborne, veered to the left and struck an embankment head-on, about 150 yards from the runway, state police officials reported.
    McCabe was freed from the wrecked plane by Town of Batavia firefighters and taken by Mercy Flight to Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester.
    The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating the crash.
    http://www.buffalonews.com/city/comm...icle490989.ece

    Georgia L Schlager

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