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    a loan from the tax payers of West Seneca

    Is this true?

    The americorps in southbuffalo are paying back the tax payers of west seneca 7000 a month against a 800,000 negative balance I guess.. a 800,000 loan

    At $7000 a month it will take 114 months or so...

    A 10 year loan..

    Can other non profits do the same in other towns?

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    Rocket Science this ain't........

    You Serious ? This AGAIN !

    It's pretty much over, the town took a beating on this deal. The present board did the best they could to make the best of a bad situation that they had dumped into their laps.

    Did you read the state audit ? I did. You really should read it. Especially pages 13 - 18.

    http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/...NARY/audit.pdf

    Higher ups at the state level blame the town board, past and present.

    It's ludicrous ! Given the present board severed ties in 2008 with Americorp and the transgressions occured before 2008.

    It's clear to me there are higher ups at the state and federal level who do not want this abuse of Govt. funding exposed.

    This is bigger than the town and Lazzara knows it. He walks on self annoited water and the bleeding hearts eat it up. All which can translates to sympathetic voters.

    Coincidentally ( ) Shroeder and Higgins, who so many are fond of, can be seen in some of the 30 or so videos Lazzara has produced in the last year, to show the "Good" his Americorp program has done and can be seen on youtube under "Western New York Americorp"

    My hunch is Sheila and Wally stood up to them and were told, Alright we'll move it (Americorp) on provided no one utters a word about the past woes.

    With the advent of this report it's obvious at least one of them didn't oblige.
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    You Serious ? This AGAIN !

    It's pretty much over, the town took a beating on this deal. The present board did the best they could to make the best of a bad situation that they had dumped into their laps.

    You can't let it continue. What was going on in WS can easily be happening in South Buffalo now. This stuff can be happening all throughout the system at our expense. SCREW that crap... Just sweep it under the rug and forget about it?

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    Is this true?
    How badly are you willing to hurt AmeriCorps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    You can't let it continue. What was going on in WS can easily be happening in South Buffalo now. This stuff can be happening all throughout the system at our expense. SCREW that crap... Just sweep it under the rug and forget about it?
    You forgot to mention that anything West Seneca Youth Bureau was done so under the elected West Seneca Administrations from 2 years ago when "WNY AmeriCorp" didn't exist.

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    Let's not hurt and good program. Let's get rid of Lazzarra and put someone in who can protect the members and spend the money the way the grant are written. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water! Just dump the executive director of WNY Americorp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    What was going on in WS can easily be happening in South Buffalo now.
    Gee Res, You think ?

    Wow I never thought of that.

    Are you really this stupid ?

    And unable to grasp the magnitude of the Americorp program ?

    Let me reiterate:

    Americorp is bigger than you think.

    It's a federally funded program.

    Lazzara has friends in high places.

    Meegan and Piotrowski ran it out of West Seneca.

    Shroeder and Higgins embrace Lazzara in Albany and Washington D.C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    The americorps in southbuffalo are paying back the tax payers of west seneca 7000 a month against a 800,000 negative balance I guess..
    You guess? This mean you don't know for sure. This means someone must be feeding you misrepresented information about WNY AmeriCorps and confusing it with West Seneca Youth Bureau when it was created by the Town of West Seneca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth seeker View Post
    Let's not hurt and good program.
    YES! Let's not! Because that's exactly what everyone (except me) is doing.

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    Inspector Clouseau ?

    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    This stuff can be happening all throughout the system at our expense.
    It use to amaze me that you can run and oversee this website and yet be so clueless to so much of what was being exposed.

    That was 3 yrs. ago.

    Now your just annoying. Like most regulars in here.

    You cannot see the forest for the trees.

    Google it.

    I'm tired of trying to explain.

    If you had a chance a few years back to sell this website, you should have. You ruined it.
    A remark should only hurt within it's proportion of what is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hscout View Post
    You guess? This mean you don't know for sure. This means someone must be feeding you misrepresented information about WNY AmeriCorps and confusing it with West Seneca Youth Bureau when it was created by the Town of West Seneca.
    As a resident of West Seneca, I don't guess, I know. I have watched Mark Lazzara destroy a potentially good program for his personal gain. And, I'm sorry to say, you can not seperate the two AmeriCorps, WS and WNY, with regard to the money owed to the Town.

    No matter how you try to spin the issue, you need only look at the WS Town Board minutes to get the facts. And despite what Lazzara, Greenan, or anyone else tells you, AmeriCorps did have employees on the books prior to 2008. I only wish I had kept the list that was posted on their own website to show you. Ask Michele Graber, Vince's wife, she worked for AC. How about Mark's daughter, she worked there too. There are also posters to this site who worked there as well, and who know real facts. But some of them are waiting for their lawsuit against Mark to be settled before they can really talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of Ebenezer View Post
    Gee Res, You think ?

    Wow I never thought of that.

    OF course I know this crap is going at all level of NYS government.

    Are you really this stupid ?

    You are allowed to have your own opinion of me.

    And unable to grasp the magnitude of the Americorp program ?

    Magnitude or not, screwing the tax payer is screwing the tax payer.

    Let me reiterate:

    Americorp is bigger than you think.

    Let me reiterate, screwing the tax payer is screwing the tax payer.

    It's a federally funded program.

    I don't care if it's federally funded, state funded, county funded or local government funded, screwing the tax payer is screwing the tax payer. There is a non-government laborer/non-government business owner who generated the money.

    Lazzara has friends in high places.

    Screwing the tax payer is screwing the tax payer.

    Meegan and Piotrowski ran it out of West Seneca.

    Which they should be applauded for. WHY? screwing the tax payer is screwing the tax payer. Good job Meegan and Piotrowski. We need more people like you representing the tax payer.

    Shroeder and Higgins embrace Lazzara in Albany and Washington D.C.

    Let me reiterate, screwing the tax payer is screwing the tax payer. I don't care who is doing the screwing..
    What else would you like to know?

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    You know what? I think every tax payer in west seneca should now demand their 800,000 repaid by the end of year. It's their money.

    Higgins, shroeder and mark get second jobs to pay the West Seneca tax payer back. With interest.

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    That will never happen. That would be like the tax payers of the US telling the big corporations and banks that we want out 1.4 trillion back by the end of the year, and Bush and Friends, along with his Boyfriend Obama, and his friends, can all go get jobs to pay us back the money they pissed away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho1 View Post
    As a resident of West Seneca, I don't guess, I know.
    I was asking on WNYResident's guessing.

    americorps in southbuffalo are paying back the tax payers of west seneca 7000 a month against a 800,000 negative balance I guess..

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