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    Two words... Normie Polanski. Paychecks for both miller and makeyenko. Your city screwed your school district! You need to get more often and listen to how your city reacts ( the average person) to those three names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youcangohome View Post
    More of your misinformation. I was at last nights meeting and I don't remember you going into executive session with the board about the windmills. So you, like the rest of us, have no idea who negotiated what or which board members are responsible, if not all of them. What I do remember is you talking on your cell phone after being asked to turn it off. Classless as always. Talking about how you are for the taxpayer, but you're not one.
    They said the orginal offer was 300,000 something, but MR.MORGAN, MR. KORACH and MR.MASREY negotiated the offer to 600,000 plus. Of course, you didn't want to hear that, did you? Do the city a favor, pay your taxes, shut up and go away. Or just go away.
    Really something with your so called misinformation. You just said they were.

    The reality is that the previous majority asked the law firm they hired to handle this as soon as they fired Rick Juda because he wouldn't do it because he probably was told not to. Seems like they got it done and your boys are trying to steal the credit. Everyone knows they do not do anything but smile for the Front Page in some self promoting article.

    That 180bucks an hour we spent on that" Law Firm" sure paid us taxpayers back. How much are Morgan and Juda going to give us back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnb811 View Post
    Really something with your so called misinformation. You just said they were.

    The reality is that the previous majority asked the law firm they hired to handle this as soon as they fired Rick Juda because he wouldn't do it because he probably was told not to. Seems like they got it done and your boys are trying to steal the credit. Everyone knows they do not do anything but smile for the Front Page in some self promoting article.

    That 180bucks an hour we spent on that" Law Firm" sure paid us taxpayers back. How much are Morgan and Juda going to give us back!
    Why didnt the 180 /hr law firm sign the contract then, oh they were to busy digging up dirt to try to bring Leonnetti up on some bull**** charges, thats how they operate, isnt the first time, or second or third for that.
    The current board majority has gotten more done for the community in 15 days than the last board in three years, now your going to throw mud again!

    nothing is ever enough for you sour puss attention getters. Its ben 15 days, give it a break, and they have saved hundreds of thousands of dollars already!

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    So leoneti resigned because of some bull$%#% charges? The plot thickens! If they are such bull$&%#, why resign? I am waiting to see what job he lands!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lackawanna #1 View Post
    Why didnt the 180 /hr law firm sign the contract then, oh they were to busy digging up dirt to try to bring Leonnetti up on some bull**** charges, thats how they operate, isnt the first time, or second or third for that.
    The current board majority has gotten more done for the community in 15 days than the last board in three years, now your going to throw mud again!

    nothing is ever enough for you sour puss attention getters. Its ben 15 days, give it a break, and they have saved hundreds of thousands of dollars already!
    More like cost us millions.......keep reading.....
    .Lackawanna School Board OKs Windmill Plan

    Six new windmills may be on the horizon for the old Bethlehem Steel site.

    The Lackawanna Board of Education last week approved a payment-in- lieu-of-tax agreement that would pay the school district more than a half million dollars over 15 years for two new windmills the company behind the project plans to erect in Lackawanna.

    The company, First Wind, in January acknowledged its plans to add two more windmills in Lackawanna and four on the Hamburg side of the Bethlehem site.

    While the project is tax exempt, the company would pay the Lackawanna School District a total of $525,000 over 15 years, or $35,000 a year, according to the agreement the School Board approved unanimously.

    A phone call to First Wind was not returned.

    Lackawanna Mayor Norman L. Polanski said the School Board’s approval is good news for the project.

    “I’m very excited, because I want to see these windmills going in and that was the tie-up,” Polanski said of the School Board’s contract.

    First Wind offered the city 15-year PILOT payments of $451,000 for the two new windmills, the mayor said. The county would receive about $288,000, he said.

    The school district, however, originally was seeking more than the company was offering, Polanski said.

    “To be honest with you, [the company] said the schools were being ridiculous,” the mayor said. “The schools were demanding $1.6 million

    total — for the two windmills. That’s just not going to happen. It would kill the project.”

    Now, with the school district on board, the mayor hopes the city also will be signing a PILOT agreement soon.

    “Basically, I told [company officials] the last time we met in my office, I didn’t care if the schools got a little more than the city,” the mayor said. “I just wanted this thing to move.”

    The new towers will be about 240 feet tall, and with the blades, the windmills will be about 400 feet tall—the same as the eight turbines currently along the Lackawanna shoreline. The city receives $100,000 a year in payments for the eight windmills currently operating, Polanski said.

    As for the four new windmills on the Hamburg side, the town and Frontier Central School District will split most of the payments received for those turbines.

    Hamburg Supervisor Steven J. Walters has said First Wind has agreed to payment in lieu taxes of $10,000 for each megawatt generated by the four turbines.

    e-mail: jrey@buffnews.com

    A couple things here:

    1)We should have recieved the 1.6million as it was for all the windmills including the ones Norm stiffed the district on the first go around.

    2) Norm's influence on the new board and its lawyers is apparent.Settled really quick because he wanted it DONE!!!

    3) To be honest with you 1.6million over 15years isn't a lot of money. It was a starting point to get maximum tax dollars for the taxpayer. 525 grand over 15years /35 grand a year is what we will be getting. That will be blown in 5minutes or given away in some lawsuit.

    4) Youcangohome is the one with the so called MISINFORMATION. Once again the Buffalo News confirms it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lackawanna #1 View Post
    Why didnt the 180 /hr law firm sign the contract then, oh they were to busy digging up dirt to try to bring Leonnetti up on some bull**** charges, thats how they operate, isnt the first time, or second or third for that.
    The current board majority has gotten more done for the community in 15 days than the last board in three years, now your going to throw mud again!

    nothing is ever enough for you sour puss attention getters. Its ben 15 days, give it a break, and they have saved hundreds of thousands of dollars already!
    They got more done alright:

    1) Cost district 1 million on windmill thing.


    2) Gave Ernie's wife a job with health insurence.

    3) Gave John's best buddy Dave Stan a job as maintenence mechanic.

    4) Fired a law firm that specializes in SCHOOL LAW and hired 2 political hacks that interpet the law the way Norm/John want rather than by the way the law was intended. Which will cost us millions in the long run.

    Ernie Leonetti has no "personal responsibility" for anything he does in your eyes apparently. It is always someone elses fault. What is he going to do next blame his parents for his stupidity? Karma is a bitch isn't it.

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    [QUOTE=lackawanna #1;661419]Why didnt the 180 /hr law firm sign the contract then, oh they were to busy digging up dirt to try to bring Leonnetti up on some bull**** charges, thats how they operate, isnt the first time, or second or third for that.


    They were trying to get maximum dollars for the taxpayer. Once again the Buffalo News confirms. It also confirms what we have been saying all along a vote for Miller/Friend was a vote for Norm and his gopher John to be in control of the schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youcangohome View Post
    More of your misinformation. I was at last nights meeting and I don't remember you going into executive session with the board about the windmills. So you, like the rest of us, have no idea who negotiated what or which board members are responsible, if not all of them. What I do remember is you talking on your cell phone after being asked to turn it off. Classless as always. Talking about how you are for the taxpayer, but you're not one.
    They said the orginal offer was 300,000 something, but MR.MORGAN, MR. KORACH and MR.MASREY negotiated the offer to 600,000 plus. Of course, you didn't want to hear that, did you? Do the city a favor, pay your taxes, shut up and go away. Or just go away.
    MISINFORMATION at its finest!!! 1.6million was the original offer Buffalo News and Norm confirm it. Saleh and Byrnarski took the lead on this from day one.

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    Post The Truth Marches On!

    **Early 2004 "Team Polanski" took charge and the Lackawanna City Council waived the residency law to allow Mr. Juda to become the Lackawanna City Attorney.
    **September 2005 Mr. Juda resigns as Lackawanna City Attorney to become the Lackawanna School District Attorney and the "team" hires Mr. Petricca as the new/old (was City Attorney in the 1990's) Attorney.
    **The Council votes on the two page City of Lackawanna Windmill agreement on:

    December 19, 2005
    Regular session of the Lackawanna City Council met in the Council Chambers, Council President Ronald R. Spadone presiding. The meeting was preceded by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Council President Spadone

    Meeting called to order/Pledge of Allegiance

    Roll Call: Present: Kozub, Jaworski, Schiavi, Estrada, Spadone

    Dept. Heads: Present: Law, Pub.Works, Pub.Saf., Rec

    Excused: Adm. & Fin.


    Steel Winds Agreement
    • To: City Council

    Attached is an agreement between Steel Winds LLC and the City of Lackawanna. I am asking that the Council waive the rules at the next Council meeting to allow the mayor to enter into the agreement.

    MAYOR NORMAN L. POLANSKI, JR.

    Moved by Jaworski, seconded by Estrada to grant request.

    Yeas: Kozub, Jaworski, Schiavi, Estrada, Spadone. Carried.
    ************************************************** ***************
    No talk ever about the Lackawanna School Sytem OR County of Erie share of money due them because they equally as well as the City are mandated to receive payments for also being the "taxing jurisdictions".

    Just the Facts.

    Joe did not stop asking why not-----!

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    Post Duh.......

    Facts!

    Back in 05' or 06' Miller made a motion to table a motion brought by Chudzik to hire an outside attorney to investigate and pursue legally Windmill money portion due the Lackawanna School System on TWO separate occasions! Facts.

    Like any settlement negotiations the larger amount sought by the past Board started high with the hopes of attaining the large amount long over-due OUR schools.
    In comes the Party boys and because the city players who need the windmill money to fill critical city budget gaps, called in a marker on this one to get it moving actually for the city behind the scenes. The city boys tell the school board ducks how loud or soft to quack so the NEW Board softly quacked and quickly sealed the deal at a fair but could have held out for more if they ............
    SO ---the new board settled quickly for much less than they should have and once again the taxpayers/children will never reap the true bounty of the Windmill money.

    I am sure OUR poor kids will be peddling the streets again and I will again eat about 10 candy bars early September.

    I saw new School Attorney consulting the Windmill rep during executive session last Thursday. And the new School Attorney for years receives a paycheck from the City of Lackawanna too.
    Who was the City negotiating for from the beginning?? The People OR the Windmill Co.?

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    Post Case Closed!

    Friday, July 4, 2008
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    The city of Lackawanna and its school system stand to benefit financially from an agreement with the company that eventually will erect 18 more windmills on the former Bethlehem Steel site.

    But peace and harmony hardly describe the way the city and school district worked together to get to this point.

    The developer, in this case BQ Energy, must either pay taxes to municipalities and school districts or sign agreements to pay a sum in lieu of taxes, or negotiate separate payment schedules.

    At issue is an earlier agreement between BQ Energy and the city that leaves the schools out of a 15-year payment plan. That still does not sit well with Paul Hashem, superintendent of schools at the time the deal was negotiated.

    He felt, and still feels, the district was deliberately left out of negotiations when Lackawanna Mayor Norman Polanski signed the original Steel Winds deal.

    The controversy began with the eight wind turbines occupying the grounds of the abandoned steel mill. Steel Winds I generates up to 20 megawatts of electric power and per the original agreement, signed Dec. 19, 2005, developer BQ Energy pays Lackawanna - the only benefactor of the agreement - $100,000 tax-free every year for 15 years.

    A second, tentative agreement signed by BQ this past spring with the city - and this time including the Lackawanna City School District - could pay the city an additional $162,000 a year, once construction begins. The school will get $130,000 annually.

    The second agreement will not change any provisions of the first Steel Winds deal, leaving the city as sole benefactor of that contract.

    David Bradley chairs the engineering committee for Wind Action Group, an education and advocacy group geared toward maximizing wind energy in Erie County. Of Polanski's ability to negotiate wind deals for the city, Bradley said, "He did well for himself."

    Hashem, who retired Feb. 5, said Polanski could have done a better job negotiating for the community had the schools been a party in the talks. Steel Winds I would have benefited the school district, Hashem maintains.

    "We could have gotten into an agreement where funds could have helped us get a reading or math teacher," he said. "The problem was the school district had an interest in this, but was not made aware of the negotiations.

    "I feel very strongly the city breached an ethical issue, not notifying all municipalities. The school district should have been made aware, to share in the agreement."

    Of the original agreement, Hashem said, "The Steel Winds people said they expected the city and the school district to be included, and were disappointed both were not."

    Paul Curran, managing director of BQ Energy, negotiated Steel Winds I and Steel Winds II payment agreements. He declined comment when asked to recall his or his company's reaction to the school district being excluded from the first voluntary payment agreement.

    "We negotiated an agreement with the city, honored that agreement and are happy with it," he said.

    Lackawanna mayor: 'Nobody wanted in'
    "The district has to express an interest," said Polanski. "Our first deal with the eight windmills, nobody came and said they wanted in. So the deal I struck was for the city. Once construction started, the school and county were out of luck in demanding revenues."

    "The mayor is not being forthright," said Hashem, when told of Polanski's comments. "When they did that first set of negotiations, the school district didn't know they were negotiating with Steel Winds. I believe they did that (to avoid sharing) money with the school district, and that was wrong. This was a really underhanded deal, a deliberate way of excluding one of the partners.

    "My understanding when (then-district attorney Carl) Morgan looked at the real property law and researched it ... there wasn't anything we could do," Hashem said. "It was a done deal. We were screwed and that was it."

    A call to interim school Superintendent Fred Wille was not returned.


    According to Section 487 of the real property tax law, energy systems such as solar or wind are tax-exempt for 15 years. It also states local jurisdictions (such as school districts) may require solar or wind energy systems to enter a payment-in-lieu-of-taxes (PILOT) contract. When the district opted out of the exemption from taxation on Nov. 15, 2006, it legally secured its place in negotiations for Steel Winds II.



    Read more: Wind turbine deal spins up controversy - Business First of Buffalo

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    Quote Originally Posted by andreahaxton View Post
    Facts!

    Back in 05' or 06' Miller made a motion to table a motion brought by Chudzik to hire an outside attorney to investigate and pursue legally Windmill money portion due the Lackawanna School System on TWO separate occasions! Facts.

    Like any settlement negotiations the larger amount sought by the past Board started high with the hopes of attaining the large amount long over-due OUR schools.
    In comes the Party boys and because the city players who need the windmill money to fill critical city budget gaps, called in a marker on this one to get it moving actually for the city behind the scenes. The city boys tell the school board ducks how loud or soft to quack so the NEW Board softly quacked and quickly sealed the deal at a fair but could have held out for more if they ............
    SO ---the new board settled quickly for much less than they should have and once again the taxpayers/children will never reap the true bounty of the Windmill money.

    I am sure OUR poor kids will be peddling the streets again and I will again eat about 10 candy bars early September.

    I saw new School Attorney consulting the Windmill rep during executive session last Thursday. And the new School Attorney for years receives a paycheck from the City of Lackawanna too.
    Who was the City negotiating for from the beginning?? The People OR the Windmill Co.?
    Fact: MIller not on the board in '05. Believe he was elected in '06
    Fact: Miller & Makeyenko in minority, so they must have made a valid point to get it tabled. Something you don't want to mention because it doesn't help your cause. Chudzik had the votes (5) if his argument was valid. Obviously, it wasn't.
    Fact: Nothing you print is 100% of what happened. Just what suits you and those you try to discredit. PAY YOUR TAXES AND GO AWAY!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by youcangohome View Post
    If Byrnarski and Saleh were so instrumenal, why didn't it get done under their reign? Why was the vote 6-0 this time? You blamed Makeyenko, Miller and co. for it not getting iit done when they were in the MINORITY, but now that they're in the majority they get no credit according to you. But you're not a angry, bitter, prejudiced person, are you?..No...just an arrogent jerk. BYE BYE


    Groundwork started under previous board and law firm. You said the current board made a deal better than the 300grand that the previous board did. You said the current board increased it to 600 grand. Reality is the previous board was trying to get 1.5million dollars. The new board settled for 500 grand because Normie wanted it settled. Truth is the new board cost us 1million dollars.What does that make you? a person full of MISINFORMATION. They get no credit from me when they cost us 1 million dollars by listening to Norm. Sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by youcangohome View Post
    What the hell are you talking about you IDIOT...1.6 mil was the schools DEMANDS according to the paper, not the offer. 300,000 was the OFFER according to the contract read at the meeting. Morgan and Masrey got 600,000 plus.
    The News never gets anything wrong, do they? They' weren't even there. Didn't they report your best friend Miller was retired? You really are the king of rumors and lies. Congratulations, You've managed to beat out Gibbsgal and Andrea, so you are the best at something.
    Lol caught again and you got to spin your BS. They demanded 1.6 you got 525 not 600 plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youcangohome View Post
    Fact: MIller not on the board in '05. Believe he was elected in '06
    Fact: Miller & Makeyenko in minority, so they must have made a valid point to get it tabled. Something you don't want to mention because it doesn't help your cause. Chudzik had the votes (5) if his argument was valid. Obviously, it wasn't.
    Fact: Nothing you print is 100% of what happened. Just what suits you and those you try to discredit. PAY YOUR TAXES AND GO AWAY!!!!!!
    Fact: You continue to have reading comprehension problems.


    She said " back in 05 OR 06." Which means she wasn't sure what year. Wasn't specific on the year but apparently she was close.
    Last edited by mnb811; July 18th, 2010 at 04:50 PM.

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