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    Angry Politically Correct BS

    "Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees"

    Freedom of expression or cultural disrespect on Cinco de Mayo?

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-92945969.html


    Now you get threatened with punishment for being a proud American?!?!
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    Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees

    Is this really how far we've fallen as a country? Liberal political correctness has this much sway?

    http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:nbc_...ican-Flag-Tees

    On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.

    Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office.

    "They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."

    The boys said the administrators called their T-shirts "incendiary" that would lead to fights on campus.

    "They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," Dominic Maciel, Galli's friend, said.

    The boys really had no choice, and went home to avoid suspension. They say they're angry they were not allowed to express their American pride. Their parents are just as upset, calling what happened to their children, "total nonsense."

    "I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality."

    But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.

    "I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

    As for an apology, the boys and their families say, 'fat chance.'

    "I'm not going to apologize. I did nothing wrong," Galli said. "I went along with my normal day. I might have worn an American flag, but I'm an American and I'm proud to be an American."

    The five boys and their families met with a Morgan Hill Unified School District official Wednesday night. The district and the school do not see eye-to-eye on the incident and released the following statement:


    The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions.

    The boys will not be suspended and were allowed to return to school Thursday. We spotted one of them when he got to campus -- and, yes, he was sporting an American flag T-shirt.

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    Wow.

    That is messed up on so many levels, I don't even know what to say.


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    Oh for God's sake.

    While the flag should not be on any shirt, as tech. it is disrespectful .....

    if they could wear it any other day ..... then I see no reason why they could not wear it on that day, there's a word for that, I'll have to look it up ... but basically when someone does something wrong and it is let to happen again and again, it is then acceptable.
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    But wear any other flag and it is all right, lets teach our children that it is a bad thing to be a proud American, and how disgraceful it is to show your pride in your country that you are legally in.

    I bet liberals and Barack Obama are cheering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAugust View Post
    Oh for God's sake.

    While the flag should not be on any shirt, as tech. it is disrespectful .....

    if they could wear it any other day ..... then I see no reason why they could not wear it on that day, there's a word for that, I'll have to look it up ... but basically when someone does something wrong and it is let to happen again and again, it is then acceptable.

    You are right, it slipped my mind and it is a pet peeve of mine. US Code Title 4, Chapter 1, Sub. 8d, in part. "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel..."

    http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRetired View Post
    You are right, it slipped my mind and it is a pet peeve of mine. US Code Title 4, Chapter 1, Sub. 8d, in part. "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel..."

    http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm
    I'd agree with you, but from the looks of it, it was just an Old Navy shirt with a flag on the front. I see nothing wrong with that.

    I think the code is talking about wearing what appears to be an actual flag formed into clothing.

    The shorts are a little different because you shouldn't be sitting on the flag in any case, and as for the people who just wore red, white, and blue I don't see the problem.

    No go:


    Where something like this is okay:
    Someone who can't balance a budget probably shouldn't be in a position to spend someone else's money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    I'd agree with you, but from the looks of it, it was just an Old Navy shirt with a flag on the front. I see nothing wrong with that.

    I think the code is talking about wearing what appears to be an actual flag formed into clothing.

    The shorts are a little different because you shouldn't be sitting on the flag in any case, and as for the people who just wore red, white, and blue I don't see the problem.

    No go:


    Where something like this is okay:
    But it is wrong, if it looks like a flag, you are not supposed to do it. But then a lot of things that were considered wrong or inappropriate 10 or 20 years ago, are tolerated now. It's a generational thing.



    "According to the Flag Code, a flag is a flag or anything "by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag." According to the definition in the Flag Code, these images are flags".
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRetired View Post
    You are right, it slipped my mind and it is a pet peeve of mine. US Code Title 4, Chapter 1, Sub. 8d, in part. "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel..."

    http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm
    yes, but the point is that that is not why they were punished, so that's crap.
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    What the Vice Principal said was nonsensical and silly.

    That being said, even if it represents the flag, it is in violation:







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    It's a "Mexican holiday"? - in this country it is an American recognition of a Mexican heritage. Nothing more. We don't take down take down the US Flag and fly the Mexican Flag. We merely recognize that some our citizens (and if they are not citizens they can go to hell) have a heritage they celebrate.

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    no disrespect at all, but I don;t think most people think of it any more than a beer and nacho fest ...... they just don't recognize it as anything else, because it's not a part of their culture .... really, I do think that
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    Soooo... I dont get it? Americans should be punished for NOT wearing Mexican colors on a Mexican holiday?? What would be the big story if a Mexican wore a Mexican flag on his shirt on July 4th??? Would anyone really notice or care for that matter??? I know I wouldnt.. I dress in the red, white and blue on July 4th but I dont give a hoot who else does?? This is ridiculous

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    School officials that made these students go home should be fired. What happened to this country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiannon View Post
    Soooo... I dont get it? Americans should be punished for NOT wearing Mexican colors on a Mexican holiday?? What would be the big story if a Mexican wore a Mexican flag on his shirt on July 4th??? Would anyone really notice or care for that matter??? I know I wouldnt.. I dress in the red, white and blue on July 4th but I dont give a hoot who else does?? This is ridiculous
    I bet the Mexicans would be pretty pissed if you came in illegally to collect entitlements that they were paying for.

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