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    Black Tea

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    Imagine if the Tea Party Was Black
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    Let’s play a game, shall we? The name of the game is called “Imagine.” The way it’s played is simple: we’ll envision recent happenings in the news, but then change them up a bit. Instead of envisioning white people as the main actors in the scenes we’ll conjure - the ones who are driving the action - we’ll envision black folks or other people of color instead. The object of the game is to imagine the public reaction to the events or incidents, if the main actors were of color, rather than white. Whoever gains the most insight into the workings of race in America, at the end of the game, wins. [Emphasis RD's]
    Read the whole thing before commenting if you want to be taken seriously and not mocked for being dumb.
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    Wow. How'd such a comic talent as Tim Wise fly under the radar for so long?

    The dude cracks me up.

    This is especially hysterical:
    "And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. The ability to threaten others, to engage in violent and incendiary rhetoric without consequence, to be viewed as patriotic and normal no matter what you do, and never to be feared and despised as people of color would be, if they tried to get away with half the **** we do, on a daily basis."

    OMG! Rhetoric without consequence?!?!?!?

    Rhetoric defined as: 1.using language effectively to please or persuade
    2. grandiosity: high-flown style; excessive use of verbal ornamentation; "the grandiosity of his prose"; "an excessive ornateness of language"

    We wouldn't want that....that would be almost like uh, freedom of speech. I demand consequences to speech I don't like!

    But, apparently these folks didn't get the memo about their white privilege:

    "(White)Man Arrested for Threats to Pelosi for Health Care Overhaul"
    http://www.bvblackspin.com/2010/04/0...ats-to-pelosi/

    "Kevin Walsh (white) was a political prisoner held by the Secret Service for calling George Bush a War Criminal"
    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1

    "(White) Man arrested for Barack Obama assassination threat
    http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...100143532.html

    The list of white folks being denied their white privilege goes on ad nauseam:
    -Philly man arrested in threat on Va. congressman
    -Man Arrested For Threats Over Health Care
    -Two Arrested After Obama Effigy Display
    -etc.,etc.

    And I'm not even going to go into the LA Riots, which were almost universally excused as a natural outcome to blacks real or imagined disenfranchisement with the system. A system, which, by the way, we the people put in place.

    But why should Mr. Wise let facts get in the way of his rhetoric. Being a white guy, maybe thats his privilege too....


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    Two things...

    The 'black protesters' would be considered a threat rather than Americans speaking their mind.

    Those who mock the 'black tea party' would be called racists rather than Americans opposing those who speak their mind.

    Double standard on both ends.

    But interesting none the less. I wish you posted more often RD.

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    Remember how the lame stream media went google eyes over a protester legally carrying a rifle.
    White privledge?


    And MSNBC edited the video so we wouldn't know it was a blackman.


    Seems like those typical white folks were cool with it.
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    I'm writing my own poem.

    Imagine if there was a Congressional White Caucus?
    Imagine white history month.
    Or how about Miss White America.
    The NAAWP
    The list goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat My Gun View Post
    Wow. How'd such a comic talent as Tim Wise fly under the radar for so long?

    The dude cracks me up.

    This is especially hysterical:
    "And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. The ability to threaten others, to engage in violent and incendiary rhetoric without consequence, to be viewed as patriotic and normal no matter what you do, and never to be feared and despised as people of color would be, if they tried to get away with half the **** we do, on a daily basis."

    OMG! Rhetoric without consequence?!?!?!?

    Rhetoric defined as: 1.using language effectively to please or persuade
    2. grandiosity: high-flown style; excessive use of verbal ornamentation; "the grandiosity of his prose"; "an excessive ornateness of language"

    We wouldn't want that....that would be almost like uh, freedom of speech. I demand consequences to speech I don't like!

    But, apparently these folks didn't get the memo about their white privilege:

    "(White)Man Arrested for Threats to Pelosi for Health Care Overhaul"
    http://www.bvblackspin.com/2010/04/0...ats-to-pelosi/

    "Kevin Walsh (white) was a political prisoner held by the Secret Service for calling George Bush a War Criminal"
    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1

    "(White) Man arrested for Barack Obama assassination threat
    http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...100143532.html

    The list of white folks being denied their white privilege goes on ad nauseam:
    -Philly man arrested in threat on Va. congressman
    -Man Arrested For Threats Over Health Care
    -Two Arrested After Obama Effigy Display
    -etc.,etc.

    And I'm not even going to go into the LA Riots, which were almost universally excused as a natural outcome to blacks real or imagined disenfranchisement with the system. A system, which, by the way, we the people put in place.

    But why should Mr. Wise let facts get in the way of his rhetoric. Being a white guy, maybe thats his privilege too....
    A little defensive, are we?

    Frankly, I'm not surprised. In fact, your little bitch-fit only further illustrates the point of the blog post I started this thread with. Thanks for playing along, moran.
    One beautiful thing about having a government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations is that every disaster is measured in terms of economic loss. It's sort of like getting your arm sheared off in a car accident and thinking, "Damn, now it'll take longer to fold the laundry" as blood spurts from your arteries. - The Rude Pundit

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    Speaking of Black Tea...

    So what's the deal with real black Tea Partiers? They must be plants, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raoul duke View Post
    Posted without comment.

    Imagine if the Tea Party Was Black
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    Read the whole thing before commenting if you want to be taken seriously and not mocked for being dumb.

    I'm with you,, I think we should pay reparations, furthermore I think black people should rise up and whoop our sorry white asses for all the privilege we have at their expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raoul duke View Post
    A little defensive, are we?

    Frankly, I'm not surprised. In fact, your little bitch-fit only further illustrates the point of the blog post I started this thread with. Thanks for playing along, moran.
    Defensive? Not in the least. Just pointing out Mr. Wise's sad attempt to substitute his paranoid racist fantasy for actual facts.

    It couldn't be the fact that he profits from poor race relations that he posts this drivil, could it?

    I gotta feel sorry for the mindless sheep who lack the critical thinking skills to see through this nonsense and instead post it on message boards in a vain attempt to sell themselves as having some special insight into a societal racist double standard. A standard, which of course, doesnt apply to them...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat My Gun View Post
    Defensive? Not in the least. Just pointing out Mr. Wise's sad attempt to substitute his paranoid racist fantasy for actual facts.
    Um. . . Your reading comprehension is lacking. By your response, I'm not sure you understood the point of the philosophical exercise. Obviously it's fantasy. Perhaps you missed the "what if" overture of the piece. Or chose to ignore it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eat My Gun View Post
    It couldn't be the fact that he profits from poor race relations that he posts this drivil, could it?
    It couldn't be the fact that you beat your wife, could it? In more tame words: You got something to back up your assertion or are you just flailing?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eat My Gun View Post
    I gotta feel sorry for the mindless sheep who lack the critical thinking skills to see through this nonsense and instead post it on message boards in a vain attempt to sell themselves as having some special insight into a societal racist double standard. A standard, which of course, doesnt apply to them...
    So groups of black people organizing demonstrations, flashing their guns and agitating for a quasi-insurrection would be ok with the Tea Party?

    Do you seriously think that if there was an anti-government movement where 99% of it's members where black the societal reaction would be the same? We'd be as tolerant and understanding? hah.
    One beautiful thing about having a government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations is that every disaster is measured in terms of economic loss. It's sort of like getting your arm sheared off in a car accident and thinking, "Damn, now it'll take longer to fold the laundry" as blood spurts from your arteries. - The Rude Pundit

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    Quote Originally Posted by raoul duke View Post
    Um. . . Your reading comprehension is lacking. By your response, I'm not sure you understood the point of the philosophical exercise. Obviously it's fantasy. Perhaps you missed the "what if" overture of the piece. Or chose to ignore it.

    Maybe you missed this segment of the article YOU posted:

    "To ask any of these questions is to answer them. Protest is only seen as fundamentally American when those who have long had the luxury of seeing themselves as prototypically American engage in it. When the dangerous and dark “other” does so, however, it isn’t viewed as normal or natural, let alone patriotic. Which is why Rush Limbaugh could say, this past week, that the Tea Parties are the first time since the Civil War that ordinary, common Americans stood up for their rights: a statement that erases the normalcy and “American-ness” of blacks in the civil rights struggle, not to mention women in the fight for suffrage and equality, working people in the fight for better working conditions, and LGBT folks as they struggle to be treated as full and equal human beings."

    "And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. The ability to threaten others, to engage in violent and incendiary rhetoric without consequence, to be viewed as patriotic and normal no matter what you do, and never to be feared and despised as people of color would be, if they tried to get away with half the **** we do, on a daily basis"

    I won't knock your reading comprehensions skills but I reserve the right to use the term comprehension loosely. Mr. Wise is clearly drawing conclusion based on this philosophical exercise. And, while he unintentionally remains in the realm of fantasy, he has left the "what ifs" behind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raoul duke View Post
    It couldn't be the fact that you beat your wife, could it? In more tame words: You got something to back up your assertion or are you just flailing?
    Uh, yeah.

    This is his business. He sells books, dvds, and works the college lecture circuit. It's how he makes his money. You aren't naively suggesting he does this stuff for free are you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by raoul duke View Post

    So groups of black people organizing demonstrations, flashing their guns and agitating for a quasi-insurrection would be ok with the Tea Party?

    Do you seriously think that if there was an anti-government movement where 99% of it's members where black the societal reaction would be the same? We'd be as tolerant and understanding? hah.
    In case you missed it, the article wasn't about what was or wasn't ok with the tea party (it's that pesky reading comprehension thing again) It was about the perceptions of whites, bias against minorities, and white privilege.

    I'm really having a hard time finding examples of Mr. Wise's alleged widespread acceptance of the Tea Party or his insinuation that its members are largely viewed as normal, natural, or patriotic. In fact, I would say there has been a campaign to the contrary. A number of posters on this MB, yourself included, have been anything but tolerant of the Tea Partiers.

    But that is neither here nor there. We can only speak for ourselves in regards to tolerance and understanding. So, tell me, Mr. I'm-not-a-racist-cause-I-post-Tim-Wise-stuff, would you be tolerant of a black anti-government movement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raoul duke View Post

    It couldn't be the fact that you beat your wife, could it?
    Hey EMG, notice how he slipped this in here? Call him on too much stuff and he gets worse.

    Hey Tony, how about banning this Raoul Duke character once and for all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Effigy View Post
    Hey EMG, notice how he slipped this in here? Call him on too much stuff and he gets worse.

    Hey Tony, how about banning this Raoul Duke character once and for all?
    Only a rube plays the "beat your wife" card when they have no rebuttal.

    I'm never one for banning, however. Let the ignorant speak and let their words be their condemnation.

    Hopefully someday they'll learn that the ability to cut and paste is a poor substitute for actuall intelligence....


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