Do "illegal Aliens" cost American Citizens money?

[Dougles]

What I meant was I don't understand why people here get so exercised about the issue. We don't have an illegal immigrant issue.

We my not have a huge problem here in WNY, but NYC does have a massive problem! NYC has about 500,000 Illegals, of which they use the NYC schools, NYC hospitals and many other welfare programs. Which as you know we are force to pay for!

Also, what don't you understand about ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL!

[Dougles]

In 2004 CA, put the costs for the state only at 11.5 Billion!
Not to mention 1000's of dead American citizens.


http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigr...caillegals.htm

[Ms.Depew.to.you]

I don't think anyone, as sympathetic as they may be, can dispute that illegal aliens are fleecing this country.

[WNYresident]

I don't think anyone, as sympathetic as they may be, can dispute that illegal aliens are fleecing this country.

We are the country. They are fleecing us along with a fair number of "elected" officials who are fleecing the people who they are supposed to be looking out for.

[fiona]

I don't think anyone, as sympathetic as they may be, can dispute that illegal aliens are fleecing this country.

Just like we fleeced the natives hundreds of years ago. Karma's a bitch.

[Yankeefan2009]

Just like we fleeced the natives hundreds of years ago. Karma's a bitch.

Hate America much?

[Dougles]

Hate America much?

No, she does have a point, but comparing the two is like comparing a car to a bottle of water.

[fiona]

Hate America much?

Rewrite history much?

LOL, speak he truth and suddenly I "hate America." No, I don't hate America but I do hate many things that were done which were an integral part of the forming of America, the slaughter of Native Americans and taking their lands away being one of them, slavery being another. And yes, I do believe that what goes around comes around. People came here for "freedom" and in the process, many seeking freedom killed and enslaved innocent people in order to gain it for themselves. I think it's rather amusing that we can ignore our own bloody history while getting indignant about "illegal aliens."

[Ms.Depew.to.you]

Just like we fleeced the natives hundreds of years ago. Karma's a bitch.

So we're just going to throw open the doors and look the other way to make up for Columbus and his cronies taking over the new world a few hundred years ago? Your statement is so ridiculous and doesn't make sense to this argument. Maybe I should hold you responsible for something your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmother did. Karma's a bitch, after all.

[Dougles]

So we're just going to throw open the doors and look the other way to make up for Columbus and his cronies taking over the new world a few hundred years ago? Your statement is so ridiculous and doesn't make sense to this argument. Maybe I should hold you responsible for something your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmother did. Karma's a bitch, after all.

If were going that way, i'm waiting for every african nation to apologize for selling millions of their own people into slavery...

[atotaltotalfan2001]

I don't think anyone, as sympathetic as they may be, can dispute that illegal aliens are fleecing this country.

I can. They work hard, and they often pay taxes. Yes, it's true. They do.

But if the typical New Yorker is sooooooooo worried about the alleged "fleecing" of their community, why is the mayor so willing to be accommodating to illegal immigrants? The answer: Because he reflects the will of most of his constituents, who like their West Coast counterparts have learned the complex benefits vs cost dance that involves illegal immigrants.

I'm sure you can do a quick google search and find some right-wingers who will bemoan illegals and the mayor. And you'll say I'm wrong. But those right-wingers do not reflect the community at large.

[Dougles]

I can. They work hard, and they often pay taxes. Yes, it's true. They do.

But if the typical New Yorker is sooooooooo worried about the alleged "fleecing" of their community, why is the mayor so willing to be accommodating to illegal immigrants? The answer: Because he reflects the will of most of his constituents, who like their West Coast counterparts have learned the complex benefits vs cost dance that involves illegal immigrants.

I'm sure you can do a quick google search and find some right-wingers who will bemoan illegals and the mayor. And you'll say I'm wrong. But those right-wingers do not reflect the community at large.

Or because those people count towards FEDERAL DOLLARS!!! Haven't you seen all the census commercials beggin hispanics to fill them out?? It's so safe haven cities like NYC and San Fran will get "their fare share".

[WNYresident]

More on Mike in NYS.

Normalize status of otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants

Bloomberg is a supporter of immigration reform to secure the rights of illegal immigrants. He argues that deportation breaks up families and scares illegal immigrants away from cooperating with law enforcement or accessing vital social services; as such, he supports proposals like those put forth by Senators Ted Kennedy and John McCain, which would normalize the status of otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants already present. Source: Wikipedia.org entry, “Michael_Bloomberg” May 2, 2007
Border controls fight natural forces of supply and demand

Bloomberg believes that border enforcement is somewhat futile. He told the Senate hearing on Immigration Legislation on 5 July 2006: “It is as if we expect border control agents to do what a century of communism could not: Defeat the natural forces of supply and demand and defeat the natural human instinct for freedom and opportunity. You might as well sit on the beach and tell the tide not to come in.”

Then stop most if not all social programs until you have like 5 or more years of residency under your belt.

IF a country allows 10,000,000 of it's citizens to invade illegally another country they should pay for all expenses it brings to that that country.

Go read this:

[Save Us]

We my not have a huge problem here in WNY, but NYC does have a massive problem! NYC has about 500,000 Illegals, of which they use the NYC schools, NYC hospitals and many other welfare programs. Which as you know we are force to pay for!

Also, what don't you understand about ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL!

Look at California...there is your answer.

[FMD]

call it what you want, Mexico has declared war on the United States.