Two sides to the coin.
One could also look at it as liquor stores paid a fee all of these years to have exclusive rights to sell liquor.
You appear to have a deeper understanding of the regulations, but from my perspective, if it is a yearly fee, then it is something that can expire at anytime. No?
Furthermore, correct me if I am wrong, but if Grocery stores are able to sell wine and liquor with food, ice and smokes, wouldn't that open the doors for liquor stores to offer food, ice and smokes with their current inventor of wine and liquor?
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I don't think there's anything on the table that would open up what liquor stores can sell.
But even if there was - keep in mind that most liquor stores are small mom and pop operations that set up their stores, specifically based on the product they were allowed to sell. If they were suddenly allowed to sell food, they'd really become nothing more than a convenience store with liquor.
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I know. That was my point.
Whether or not people drink more, allowing the State to make more money is not my concern.
I thought I was clear in expressing my reasons for arguing against this. But from the questions you're asking me, I'm beginning that it's not the case.
From what I understand (and giving you the benefit that you're smarter than me) I'm getting you're concerned about the small liquor store owners. My point is that, even if some of them close up, there will be increased opportunity in related fields, such as production and logistics. In my macro view of the market, would they not offset?
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completely out of business no
but it might put some out
but then there will be ones that specialize in wider variety than what the grocery stores carry. kind of like what consumer's beverage does with beer
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First of all, you're much smarter. Irregardless (proving my point), I don't give a damn about production, logistics, and your macro view of the market.
My only concern is for the poor schleps who own liquor stores, and are in jeopardy of losing a good deal of their profits, simply because NYS needs more money.
You see it... I see it... but most don't care because it won't effect them at all.therising
My only concern is for the poor schleps who own liquor stores, and are in jeopardy of losing a good deal of their profits, simply because NYS needs more money.
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I'm from California and you can find wine and spirits everywhere -- grocery stores, drug stores, mini-marts etc.
You see a lot of liquor in those places. What you see very little of are actual liquor stores. There is simply no way they can compete with the big guys. You can buy a perfectly lovely bottle of red California wine for about $2 at Trader Joe's. No way a Mom and Pop operation can compete with that.
Frankly, I'd rather give my business to a Mom and Pop wine/spirits store. Grocery stores like Wegmans already get plenty of my business. I'd rather pay more at local wine/spirits store and know I'm keeping a neighbor in business.
It's bad enough that so many of us have been put out of jobs due to foreign competition. I hate it when we put each other out of business.
Total sees it also. THe problem we have is there will be people on the receiving end of those taxes. They don't care as long as they get something out of it. Just look at the attitude of people on speakup in some cases. BUSINESS owners are rich, they are evil, blau blau blau... if it wasn't for business owners there wouldn't be jobs or any government because GOVERNMENT doesn't make money. Businesses do.
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New Hampshire owns its liquor stores and uses that as a way to put some money in the state coffers.
Grocery stores do sell wine.
Maybe NYS could figure in a similar plan. With a regulation stating that grocery stores can only sell NYS wine.
I think that is a reasonable compromise?
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