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    Illinois careens into financial meltdown – and not even the lottery is safe

    Illinois careens into financial meltdown – and not even the lottery is safe

    Illinois is grappling with a full-fledged financial crisis and not even the lottery is safe – with Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner warning the state is entering "banana republic" territory.

    Facing billions in unpaid bills and pension obligations, the state is hitting a cash crunch that is rare even by Illinois standards.

    A top financial official just warned 100 percent of the state's monthly revenue will be eaten up by court-ordered payments. Rauner is calling a special session of the Democrat-led General Assembly in a bid to pass what he hopes will be the first full budget package in almost three years.

    And Illinois will – literally – lose the lottery if the budget fails.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...y-is-safe.html

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    Not surprising. This state is an economic disaster
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    Because it's been a Democratic stronghold for 3 generations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grump View Post
    Because it's been a Democratic stronghold for 3 generations.
    Only Chicago. The rest of the state is blazing red
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    Only NYC is a Democratic stronghold and NYS is a f'ed up as a result. Same deal there.

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    You can see Illinois is way more red than NY
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    If NY State is so red how do you explain our two inept Democratic NY Senators?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna View Post
    If NY State is so red how do you explain our two inept Democratic NY Senators?
    It's where the powerbases are. So the red obvioiusly doesn't mean too much. As far a Illinois, it's called giving away the farm. Wait until the next recession and you'll really see some fireworks.
    So taxes will go up in that state and it can be another blue state that people flee from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    It's where the powerbases are. So the red obvioiusly doesn't mean too much. As far a Illinois, it's called giving away the farm. Wait until the next recession and you'll really see some fireworks.
    So taxes will go up in that state and it can be another blue state that people flee from.
    People are already fleeing form it, trust me
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    People are already fleeing form it, trust me
    This will be the outcome of many blue states. Socialism doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna View Post
    If NY State is so red how do you explain our two inept Democratic NY Senators?
    Because blue is where the people are.





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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post




    You can see Illinois is way more red than NY
    Why are you posting maps with counties? Counties have nothing to do with state politics......

    43% of New York residents live in New York City. Not the metro region but just the city. It's over 50% when you look at the metro area but difficult to be accurate....

    It's even worse in Illinois. 77% of the states population lives in the Chicago metro region. 21% in the City of Chicago and 40% in Cook County.


    In both of these states a small densly populated area of the state runs the entire state. Counties don't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    Why are you posting maps with counties? Counties have nothing to do with state politics......

    43% of New York residents live in New York City. Not the metro region but just the city. It's over 50% when you look at the metro area but difficult to be accurate....

    It's even worse in Illinois. 77% of the states population lives in the Chicago metro region. 21% in the City of Chicago and 40% in Cook County.


    In both of these states a small densly populated area of the state runs the entire state. Counties don't matter.
    I posted them because ding dong up there said only NY City is a Democratic stronghold and I wanted him to see he was wrong. Try to keep up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    I posted them because ding dong up there said only NY City is a Democratic stronghold and I wanted him to see he was wrong.

    You posted some maps that show counties but used it, as an illustration, to talk about state politics. State politics don't follow county lines.

    New York City is home to 52% of Registered and Active Democrats in the State. NYC is home to just 16% of Registered and Active Republicans. As of 2016:

    Bronx: 491,052 D to 37,190 R
    Kings: 853,687 D to 100,363 R
    New York: 617,963 D to 84,870 R
    Queens: 675,661 D to 115,703 R
    Richmond: 119,328 D to 76,352

    That's 2,757,691 Enrolled and Active Democrats to 414,478 Enrolled and Active Republicans. That's close to a 6:1 ratio. That is what you call a stronghold. Zero chance you're going to see a Republican. In WNY, regardless if you look the Buffalo metro or the Buffalo and Rochester metro, it's a different picture. It's closer to a 1:1.5 ratio. While it may be close to 2:1 in Erie, it's 1:1.5 in Monroe and 1:1.3 in all of WNY. That's not a stronghold.

    It's why Erie County will still elect a Republican County Executive from time to time and why Niagara County will go Red in a Presidential election from time to time. Another way to look at it is 52% of Democrats in New York live in NYC, whereas, 84% of Republicans live outside of NYC.




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    Try to keep up.
    Now let me ask you a question, why do you so often choose to be a dick?
    Because being wrong and arrogant at the same time annoys me.

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    It's not wrong if someone says NY is only blue in NY City and I post a map showing multiple areas that voted blue
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