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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoobie View Post
    Islam is no more base, primitive or regressive than any of the other world religions which essentially are mythologies, all equally base, primitive and regressive. It's like asking who is more pregnant.
    You don't do much reading outside of classwork do you?

    Your statement is about as ignorant on the subject as I have come across. I have an idea, why don't read about the prophet and the tenents of his religion. ....still shaking my head..

    Why do you think they all want to come to Europe? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    Actually, it does idiot and that's the point.

    Right now at this point in history, Islam is the most violent religion. I am talking about violence or killing in the name of religion and Islam is running away from the pack right now.
    Okay, so if I travel to Asia and I am among Buddhists and they profile me as a "Christian-American Terrorist" (because America is more violent than most Buddhist countries), everyone on the message board will be okay with that, right? You'd be okay with getting pulled over, two-three times a month because, well, you're a Christian-American Terrorist (or at least you fit the profile). Just checking to make sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    You don't do much reading outside of classwork do you?

    Your statement is about as ignorant on the subject as I have come across. I have an idea, why don't read about the prophet and the tenents of his religion. ....still shaking my head..

    Why do you think they all want to come to Europe? Seriously?
    Over a billion Muslims in the world. If they were as violent as your rhetoric and "facts," we would surely know. I was so scared yesterday at Fantasy Island. There were Muslims there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    Over a billion Muslims in the world. If they were as violent as your rhetoric and "facts," we would surely know. I was so scared yesterday at Fantasy Island. There were Muslims there.



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    The facts are the teachings of mohammed and what is in the Quran. There is no fear just observation. For example the burkha was implemented for reason. Why?

    What scares me are liberals that are silent on oppression of women, gays, non believers etc. ...do you find that odd? I do. Obama refused to use the term Islamic terrorists.. why is that?

    Ask questions about everything no matter how sacrosanct ,,, even if it is not politcally correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    The facts are the teachings of mohammed and what is in the Quran. There is no fear just observation. For example the burkha was implemented for reason. Why?

    What scares me are liberals that are silent on oppression of women, gays, non believers etc. ...do you find that odd? I do. Obama refused to use the term Islamic terrorists.. why is that?

    Ask questions about everything no matter how sacrosanct ,,, even if it is not politcally correct.
    The short answer to the Obama question, because when you name it you give it weight. Beyond that, sorry, I cannot be responsible for the rest of the world, only my little piece of it. Condi Rice used to give speeches lecturing other countries about freedom, specifically the right for labor to organize. Funny, at the same time her boss and most of the GOP was working to destroy organized labor in this country.

    There is plenty of hypocrisy to go around....always

    Islam needs its reformation, just like Christianity between the old and new testaments. You are seeing traces of it today, most terrorism leads come from inside the community. The culture war is more within Islam than outside, just look at the types and numbers of those killed.

    We will lose when we marginalize the community. It is what happened in Europe.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    Over a billion Muslims in the world. If they were as violent as your rhetoric and "facts," we would surely know. I was so scared yesterday at Fantasy Island. There were Muslims there.



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    My primary concern is that many people here (who I will call Alt-Left), while trying to be inclusive and embrace all, will overlook some aspects of Sharia law that contradict our laws and constitution, and find ways to implement them. Eventually our country may start to resemble anything BUT the US of A. Also If people come here lawfully and legally and are looking for the American Dream, why would they want to live in a country that is more and more like the one they left? I don't believe it is the legal immigrants or refugees coming here that want to see change. I believe it is the Alt-Left, Communists, Socialists (Bernie's Bunch), Criminals, Illegal immigrants, and the Islamic terrorists that are trying to enforce the harshest laws in the Quran. Religious freedom is one thing, but not when it causes harm to others.

    And BB, your comment only proved a point regarding President Obama's refusal to name islamic terrorists for what they were: "The short answer to the Obama question, because when you name it you give it weight." It didn't work for his 'spin'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    The short answer to the Obama question, because when you name it you give it weight. Beyond that, sorry, I cannot be responsible for the rest of the world, only my little piece of it. Condi Rice used to give speeches lecturing other countries about freedom, specifically the right for labor to organize. Funny, at the same time her boss and most of the GOP was working to destroy organized labor in this country.

    There is plenty of hypocrisy to go around....always

    Islam needs its reformation, just like Christianity between the old and new testaments. You are seeing traces of it today, most terrorism leads come from inside the community. The culture war is more within Islam than outside, just look at the types and numbers of those killed.

    We will lose when we marginalize the community. It is what happened in Europe.



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    I agree with you. My observation is that there are inherrent differences in cultures, and some cultures are very difficult to enmesh in some societies. The fact that muslims flee to Europe as opposed to other muslim countries speaks volumes to me.

    I am hard pressed to find a muslim country that is not either internally at war, at war directly or through proxy, or a threat to the United States. Islam is at war with Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and even itself. I am not convinced that heterogenous societies are better or safer than homogenous societies. Crime has risen dramatically in Sweden, Denmark, Germany etc. and now there is risk of more violence with far right backlash.. It's just a bad situation.

    Reformation is needed but they still seem to be stuck in the 1300's and when it's followers believe that leaving the religion is punishable by death you can see the impediment to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    I agree with you. My observation is that there are inherrent differences in cultures, and some cultures are very difficult to enmesh in some societies. The fact that muslims flee to Europe as opposed to other muslim countries speaks volumes to me.

    I am hard pressed to find a muslim country that is not either internally at war, at war directly or through proxy, or a threat to the United States. Islam is at war with Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and even itself. I am not convinced that heterogenous societies are better or safer than homogenous societies. Crime has risen dramatically in Sweden, Denmark, Germany etc. and now there is risk of more violence with far right backlash.. It's just a bad situation.

    Reformation is needed but they still seem to be stuck in the 1300's and when it's followers believe that leaving the religion is punishable by death you can see the impediment to change.
    Indonesia, Bangladesh are two of the largest muslim countries not at war or through proxy or a threat to the US. Crime stats are actually down in Sweden even as immigration numbers rose. It's true that there is a greater risk of a far-right backlash.

    "They still seem to be stuck in the 1300's"...so are many white, American Christians.

    I still think all religion is moronic and arguing the point is like asking who is more pregnant, a woman 3 months into her pregnancy or a woman 5 months into her pregnancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoobie View Post
    Indonesia, Bangladesh are two of the largest muslim countries not at war or through proxy or a threat to the US. Crime stats are actually down in Sweden even as immigration numbers rose. It's true that there is a greater risk of a far-right backlash.

    "They still seem to be stuck in the 1300's"...so are many white, American Christians.

    I still think all religion is moronic and arguing the point is like asking who is more pregnant, a woman 3 months into her pregnancy or a woman 5 months into her pregnancy.


    killing in the name of the state ie. communism is pretty close to killing if not more if memory serves.

    white American Christians? While I totally agree with you on relgion. I really can't see any parallel between the teachings of Islam and the teachings of Buddism or Christianity for that matter.

    As far as the countries you mentioned, I just read some articles that show that Islamic militancy is "looking to South East Asia" so I wouldn't hold my breath. Again you have to go to the root of the teachings. Now take battle hardened, abused, non symmetrical culturally repressed, skill-less, disenfranchised unemployed imnpressionable youth and Islamic teachings and you might have a problem. You mentioned two countries out of many and again that is changing.

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