Cuomo to Hold Rally in Cheektowaga on Friday 10/31

Theres only one way to get a true count of how many residents want change in government in Towns like Cheektowaga,Depew and Lancaster - is to subtract the number of tax funded employees from the final vote counts.

If you drop those votes then you'd see how each Town and Village Government would change.

But of course you cant discriminate against people - just because their whole life and major source of income is Party Patronage driven.

Just because they believe their obligated to vote for those who support them.

So the Dog and Pony show continues - tax payers be dammed - Nogods Party Buddies winner take all game continues !

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Originally Posted by WNYresident

This is not about repubs versus dems.

Start thinking out of the box. It's about what is in the best interest of the property/business owners.

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There ya go again, trying to avoid your own corner.

It doesn't matter who the winning and losing parties are - the point is that the people of cheektowaga have chosen their government through elections. the majority of people eligible to vote in Cheektowaga don't agree with you. They voted for the people who they believe have the best interest of property owners and business owners. they didn't vote for the losers because they believed the losers did not have the best interest of property owners and business owners.

You disagree with the majority of people in Cheektowaga. The solution for you is to stop demanding that those elected by the majority of voters adopt the policies of the losers and instead try to convince the majority of voters that the losers' policies are better.

YOU may think the winners of the election don't have the best interest of property and business owners, but until you acknowledge that the majority of eligible voters think they do have the best interest of property and business owners you have no hope of changing their minds. Insulting the choices made by the majority of voters isn't going to accomplish your objective.

Nogods avoids responding to the obvious truth - his tax funded Party Playing Dem budies sway the elections.

Each and every election can be broken down by the "Prime Voters List" - this is a real, factual list available from the Erie County Board of Elections - FACT.

These lists are compile during every election cycle and are given to Party Committees and anyone else who will pay the fees for them.

These lists contain the Names, address, ages, and number of voters in all of Erie County or your target area - broken down by Party affiliation and voting history.

Now take those lists and compare them to the names of those who faithfully vote in local elections ! You see a obvious pattern - tax funded employees - Committee Members - and Party faithful voters are the most faithfull voters.

Now look at the fact that most local elections are so similar in voter turn out and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why the same people maintain control.

Its not the majority of home owners who voted for the same people year after year. Its not the majority of the residents who reelect the same people over and over again.

Its the minority tax funded employees and their families of that Town or Village who help create and continue the tax funded Patronage jobs/appointments. Its those same people who have a vested financial interest in the elections out come.

Why do you think these people get so nasty every election cycle - their fighting for their entitlements - for what they believe is their right - your tax dollars to buy them health care - pensions and a pay check - all funded by the taxes they take from home owners.

Those Party Player Committees are funded by like minded developers and the like - people who have a financial interest in gaining favor with those in control.

All part of Nogods "Winner take all Game" - the system he and they support and defend - while hiding behind the Dog and Pony show called "Elections" -

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Originally Posted by nogods

There ya go again, trying to avoid your own corner.

It doesn't matter who the winning and losing parties are - the point is that the people of cheektowaga have chosen their government through elections. the majority of people eligible to vote in Cheektowaga don't agree with you. They voted for the people who they believe have the best interest of property owners and business owners. they didn't vote for the losers because they believed the losers did not have the best interest of property owners and business owners.

You disagree with the majority of people in Cheektowaga. The solution for you is to stop demanding that those elected by the majority of voters adopt the policies of the losers and instead try to convince the majority of voters that the losers' policies are better.

YOU may think the winners of the election don't have the best interest of property and business owners, but until you acknowledge that the majority of eligible voters think they do have the best interest of property and business owners you have no hope of changing their minds. Insulting the choices made by the majority of voters isn't going to accomplish your objective.

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No.... I'm not in a corner.

The Cheektowaga Democratic Party just has a good marketing plan in place come election time. Think about it. The past party chairman was on our payroll and did party work on our time. Fact are facts. We can easily review phone records.

Face it nogods. Facts are facts. People are leaving Cheektowaga and that isn't Tony making that up. The census count proves that. If people were happy with what the "winners" were doing they wouldn't move out of the town.

Very simple vote Wegner out of office next year and he will have to run the town party from his bar not the highway dept. and he is off the payroll problem solved.

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Originally Posted by monkeyman

Very simple vote Wegner out of office next year and he will have to run the town party from his bar not the highway dept. and he is off the payroll problem solved.

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Yep. That would be in the best interest of the property/business owners. I don't understand why our town just would not hire a a supervisor for that position.

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Originally Posted by WNYresident

No.... I'm not in a corner.

The Cheektowaga Democratic Party just has a good marketing plan in place come election time. Think about it. The past party chairman was on our payroll and did party work on our time. Fact are facts. We can easily review phone records.

Face it nogods. Facts are facts. People are leaving Cheektowaga and that isn't Tony making that up. The census count proves that. If people were happy with what the "winners" were doing they wouldn't move out of the town.

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The majority of voters who keep voting for the democrats are not moving out. They are happy with what they have. Until you realize that you don't have a chance in hell of changing the outcome.

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Originally Posted by WNYresident

Yep. That would be in the best interest of the property/business owners. I don't understand why our town just would not hire a a supervisor for that position.

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Why doesn't the Supervisor just hire 6 people to be the council members?

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Originally Posted by nogods

The majority of voters who keep voting for the democrats are not moving out. They are happy with what they have. Until you realize that you don't have a chance in hell of changing the outcome.

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Everyone has a chance to change the outcome. What planet are you on? Even the best snake oil sale person eventually is seen as a fake. Have patience.

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Originally Posted by TheDude

Why doesn't the Supervisor just hire 6 people to be the council members?

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Because the role of the "council" is to run the town in their best interest. Opps I meant the property/business owners best interest. Whoa... I was thinking like a card carry registered democratic party member for a moment ;)

Just wondering, Nogods stated, "The majority of voters who keep voting for the democrats are not moving out"

Do the Dems actually believe they can create enough patronage to support a whole state ?

Its seems like the new Dem Controller Mantra is - "Vote with your feet" - "Don't like it, move" - "Theres no room for you in NYS" -

So, if Party Control - feed by patronage and control of tax funded services and Government is the goal - what happens when tax payers leave.

You'll be left with people on welfare, social security, state aid of one sort or another - then what ?


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I mean, I don't actually think this is nothing new - our past Town Supervisor Giza and Councilman Stempniak have used the "Vote with your feet" thing for years now. Is it a Committee/Party thing ?

Unconfuse me? You state the "Past party chairman was on our payroll and did party work on our time", does that mean the new party chairman who is also on the towns payroll wont be doing work on our time?

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Originally Posted by WNYresident

No.... I'm not in a corner.

The Cheektowaga Democratic Party just has a good marketing plan in place come election time. Think about it. The past party chairman was on our payroll and did party work on our time. Fact are facts. We can easily review phone records.

Face it nogods. Facts are facts. People are leaving Cheektowaga and that isn't Tony making that up. The census count proves that. If people were happy with what the "winners" were doing they wouldn't move out of the town.

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Originally Posted by cheektowaga

Unconfuse me? You state the "Past party chairman was on our payroll and did party work on our time", does that mean the new party chairman who is also on the towns payroll wont be doing work on our time?

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I'll do my best not to confuse you.

By employing the Party Chairman no matter what party they belong to (play no favorites) it opens up the door to party work on the property owners dime. It also opens up the door to board members allowing this practice to happen because they want that support come election time. I like Mark but as said in the past play no favorites. You do what is in the best interest of the property/business owners.

Thanks for the clarification and I completely agree with you! Id love to see Angela bring it up again and see who supports it! I think your hope for Diane seconding it would be like your chances of winning the lottery!

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Originally Posted by cheektowaga

Unconfuse me? You state the "Past party chairman was on our payroll and did party work on our time", does that mean the new party chairman who is also on the towns payroll wont be doing work on our time?

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Where's our Billion dollar donor - isn't he coming to rub the heads of the Party Faithful today?

You'd think his believers would be lining up to kiss the ring - Wonder how many of his entourage will be packing heat ? ! ? :devilish:

While he's standing there telling us all about him giving us a BILLION tax dollars - then avoiding questions about his midnight passage of the Anti Gun Owner Safe Act - should we cheer or cry ?

Should we kneel while he exposes his plan for total Dem Control and driving Conservatives out of NY. :rolleyes:

Or maybe he can tell us all what he promised the Working Families Party Bosses for their "almost endorsement deal" - :cool:

Why is the media keep his plans to be here so hush hush - I bet once he's gone the media will proudly show all their privileged access shots !