View Full Version : I Hate The Senecas & Their Casinos
February 12th, 2004, 01:50 AM
They promised not to compete with local businesses but there they are selling cigarettes, gasoline, parking lots, theaters, restaurants, hotels and spas. Or doesnt anyone think that those are legitimate local businesses.
Know they want to put the 2nd casino in Salamanca after the 1st one in Niagara Falls. So why does there need to be a casino in Buffalo? Its to skim the money out of the locals pockets.
The supreme court ruled that Indians are not sovereign no matter what the treaty. They are US citizens subject to federal law, state law, imminent domain and taxation. They sovereignty is only for administration much like when a town incorporates.
They dont pay sales tax
They dont pay property, school, county, state, or federal taxes
So tell me why would anyone want these people in their community.
February 12th, 2004, 12:32 PM
Becasue there are payoffs and the politicians will say look we made jobs! I still can't understand why you would want a drain of cash flow going into a non-usa country. I have nothing against indians at all.. But if they took in like 900,000,000 million in revenue and gave niagara falls 9,000,000 or what ever the amount was, it doesn't seem worth it. I mean the peopel with the jobs are great full but it seems to be a very high price to pay.
February 12th, 2004, 01:04 PM
I am all for gambaling.
Bring in guys like Trump and let them Build casinos. Pay thier fair share to operate. They would still make money and be part of our tax base. New york would make as much if not more ten they make from the Indians.
Does Nevada have a personal income tax?
February 12th, 2004, 01:10 PM
YES what citymouse said. OR lets make a residential own casino with NO political ties period. RAN by the people that live in the area with the BOOKS totally opened. We would have the books on the internet so the people of buffalo can see what is spent what is generated for the people. Each day the take it shown and the expenses.. IT"S just big numbers nothing any different than what a small company would have but more zeros.
The money generated goes directly to offset property taxes or direct city/county cost. NO spending money on new items. We use the money relieve the crap they have us paying now.
I would work but the people that have thier hands in the OTB, the indian casinos would fight it tooth and nail.
February 16th, 2004, 10:48 PM
After spending a day at the Niagara Falls (USA) casino -- I find it hard to believe this is a good thing for WNY.
Yes, there are jobs there, but how many jobs are lost due to a poor WNY economy where the available money is spent at a casino? And thus NOT available for positive things like Sheas, the BPO, or the Sabres, or local business' and restaurants, etc. Areas don't get positive national rankings based on the number of casino's available.
Or money NOT available to raise a family with a decent standard, e.g. clothes, food, and supportive parents!!!!
Yes, jobs are being created at the social service agencies to work with people (and families) affected adversly by gambling.
And this is the way we are going to support education for our kids?
Regardless of who runs these places, is this the most creative way we have to bring life to WNY ?? I hope not !!!!
February 16th, 2004, 11:48 PM
Areas don't get positive national rankings based on the number of casino's available.
But they do get positive ranking for tourism though. Las Vegas has a massively high national ranking more than just for the casinos there, I hear their food is really good too.
I say let the dice roll a little longer to help boost the pay-outs for our other attractions here. Take a chance, Buffalo at this point has nothing to lose and more to gain if a casino is successful.
February 17th, 2004, 01:00 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Night Owl
[B]Areas don't get positive national rankings based on the number of casino's available.
But they do get positive ranking for tourism though.
Then let's get on with developing our "tourist" attractions, like the waterfront. Let's put the creativity of WNY to work, before we drag it down.
Casinos, in themselves, are not tourist attractions. No one is going to come to WNY to gamble.
February 17th, 2004, 12:15 PM
No one goes to New Orleans to Gamble either, but just about everyone stops at the casino at the foot of Canal street. I have known some people who add an extra day to the trip to try there luck. I don't know how much it has enhanced a city with a strong tourist base like they already had, but here it would give people another reason to stop or maybe stay a while longer.
February 17th, 2004, 02:19 PM
citymouse, you are correct about that. A strong tourism base is exactly what we need, then, I agree, the casinos will augment that.
At this point we are pinning our hopes on the casinos, seeing them as a saving path to the future ---- and it is a short sighted path, and will not turn out good for WNY. Isn't this putting the cart before the horse?
Let's develop a reason for people to visit here in the first place.
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