I need your advice on this 1970 Pontiac GTO

[WNYresident]

Ok your not going to believe this.

Years ago I had a collision shop ask to restore a car for me. They worked on another car previously and it turned out nice. Took them a while but the job was great.

The car had a drunk driver hit the back end so we decided to have it restored for a fun summer car. The business owner would stop down occasionally and pick up a check as work proceeded. We were happy with the first car they did so I never stopped to monitor their progress. I sent other clients to his company and they all seemed satisfied with what they got.

Well one day while sitting in my office the collision shop's flatbed rolls in and drops the car off in the middle of my parking lot. The picture is EXACTLY what they dropped off a few years later and after collecting about $12,000 bucks. He destroyed my car. I should of sued him but the few lawyers I talked to all wanted a few $1000 bucks up front to even start something up. I could of went to small claims to get what ever they allowed but it seem not worth the hassle.

I'm thinking of making a webpage with about 20 photo's of exactly what he dropped off, the acutal checks that were paid to his company and his name up in bright red letters. I will not slander the man. All I'll do is show everyone what he charged about $12,000 to do.

It was an all original 70 gto convertible.

What would you guys do?

[atotaltotalfan2001]

What is it you want to accomplish with the web site?

[WNYresident]

A lesson to teach people not to trust everyone :) Maybe he'll see the webpage and out of guilt give me my hard earned money back.

[Riven37]

WNYRes, this is a joke right because if its not they say you coming hehehe HAHAHA OHOHOH...

[DR_GONZO]

The car in the pic was the car that was hit in the back end? Looks like some work was done if that is the case. Maybe there was frame damage they couldn't fix? What were the reasons given for dropping the car off? You never ever checked on the progress? Even after $12,000 dumped into it? That's nuts! Hate to say it but, a fool and his money soon part. DTA, especially after $12,000...

[Ragin]

WNYRes, this is a joke right because if its not they say you coming hehehe HAHAHA OHOHOH...

Huh??? :confused:

Guess I missed something cause I can't see how someone would find this funny. :(

[moonshine]

I've always found Jewish Lightning to be a reasonable and justifiable response to getting burned for $12,000.

[wheresthesun]

I've always found Jewish Lightning to be a reasonable and justifiable response to getting burned for $12,000.
What the heck is a "Jewish Lightning?"

[crlachepinochet]

When Donald Trump spoke at UB, he said something to the effect of ¨If someone screws you over, you screw them back just as bad and give ´em a little extra for me.¨ That sounds about right for this situation.

[speaker]

What the heck is a "Jewish Lightning?"

I use that term a lot. It's arson.

[buffy]

I would TELL the guy "this is what i'm gonna do unless..." first,
THEn, do it, if his response is FU!

[avet]

I would set him up with a duck hunting trip with Cheney.

[GeorgeB]

I would set him up with a duck hunting trip with Cheney.

I vote to make this the quote of the week. Good one!

[buffy]

maybe after res tar & feather's him

[WNYresident]

Well here's want made me bring this up. My better half went to the UPS store and he was there. He came up to her and was all nice like nothing ever happened. Apparently I guess there are people out there that don't care if they screw people. So that got me thinking. I don't want to let our politicians off the hook for screwing the tax payer and theres not reason why this guy shouldn't be let off the hook either.



The car in the pic was the car that was hit in the back end? Looks like some work was done if that is the case. Maybe there was frame damage they couldn't fix? What were the reasons given for dropping the car off? You never ever checked on the progress? Even after $12,000 dumped into it? That's nuts! Hate to say it but, a fool and his money soon part. DTA, especially after $12,000...


Not really a fool. People build trust between each other and take people's word when they give it. Don't look at government politicians as examples. THIER words mean nothing and there are PLENTY of examples of that. Just look around WNY.

The reason the car came back was one of the employees took over the business and knew the guy screwed the car over. He didn't want anything to do with it so he wanted it out of thier building. That guy is now out of the picture and the orginal guy is back there.

[speaker]

Res, I would hire that lawyer if you can stand the retainer.
Your pictures don't really show the car and its damage. But it doesn't look good I would also find someone to assess the car as it stands. For the judge.
What is all that stuff in the back seat.
I know how you feel because both my son and myself had similar incidents happen to us, on a much smaller level, I always felt regrets that I didn't take it to Small Claims Court.
$12,000 is a new car!

[citymouse]

I can't belive you didn't beat him with the bumper! $12,000? This guy must have more balls than a pool table. He is a legitimate business man? I would waste no time in telling everyone who he is.
Including here.
If you really gave him that kind of money and that is what you recived in return you do have options. He is supposed to give you an itemized statement of all the work he performed and how much each costs including labor. Collision and auto repair is closley regulated by the state nowdays.
If he didn't do so, take yor cancelled checks and photos of the car to the state attorney general's office. This ******* should not be allowed to operate a business.
If that dosen't work call my cousin "Vito the torch". He won't charge you twelve grand but he will keep his end of the contract.

[WNYresident]

Res, I would hire that lawyer if you can stand the retainer.
Your pictures don't really show the car and its damage. But it doesn't look good I would also find someone to assess the car as it stands. For the judge.
What is all that stuff in the back seat.
I know how you feel because both my son and myself had similar incidents happen to us, on a much smaller level, I always felt regrets that I didn't take it to Small Claims Court.
$12,000 is a new car!

The day after the accident with the drunk driver I had Jim S who runs that car museum down town give me an estimate as the car stood of it's value. After the accident I got a value of $10,000. The car was worth much more before the accident. You have to remember I was driving the car until the day the drunk drive clipped the rear of the car. The car sat in my driveway until the collision shop said they would like to work on the car.

[WNYresident]

I can't belive you didn't beat him with the bumper! $12,000? This guy must have more balls than a pool table. He is a legitimate business man? I would waste no time in telling everyone who he is.
Including here.
If you really gave him that kind of money and that is what you recived in return you do have options. He is supposed to give you an itemized statement of all the work he performed and how much each costs including labor. Collision and auto repair is closley regulated by the state nowdays.
If he didn't do so, take yor cancelled checks and photos of the car to the state attorney general's office. This ******* should not be allowed to operate a business.
If that dosen't work call my cousin "Vito the torch". He won't charge you twelve grand but he will keep his end of the contract.



Actaully the day they dropped it off I immediately went right back to his place of business on broadway. My employees didn't let me go myself because I wanted witnesses to what he had to say. He wasn't at the shop when I got there needless to say.

It's not the money that bothers me as much as him ruining the car. How many 70 GTO convertibles all original do you see driving around WNY. Not all that many. By him doing what he did it will cost me much much more to restore it now. This car was all togeather including interior, engine, top everything.

[wheresthesun]

I use that term a lot. It's arson.
Never heard it before; not caring for it much now.

[WNYresident]

I deleted stevenco's last post. It was not on topic.

[Stevenco]

that's not why you deleted it. you deleted it because it was a quote of yours that i posted
it was your reply to my opinion about products which use testimonials to advertise. it said that i had no reason to revive that thread because we should be focusing on impotent politicians.
i put it on your thread about your personal inquiry about your GTO

it illustrated that you felt i was wasting my time and the time of others by posting a thought on an existing thread, why? i have no idea.
Here it is again:
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We still have impotent people in local government and that's where we should be focusing our energies.
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It wasn't taken down because it was off topic. It was taken down because it showed you doing something that you "accused" I was doing.
i don't blame you. i guess a good percentage wouldn't want to be called out on their own board. it is your game.

[WNYresident]

Yes I know I quoted it. I said you should focus on what is important. This is in the morning breakfast forum which is everything but politics. Do you have an issue with that?

[Stevenco]

Do you have an issue with that?

Yeah.
Should I start that thread or do you want to?

[atotaltotalfan2001]

Stevenco, are you channeling Woodstock, or NightOwl?

[concernedwnyer]

Ok your not going to beleive this.

Years ago I had a collision shop ask to restore a car for me. They worked on another car previously and it turned out nice. Took them a while but the job was great.

The car had a drunk driver hit the back end so we decided to have it restored for a fun summer car. The business owner would stop down occasionally and pick up a check as work proceeded. We were happy with the first car they did so I never stopped to monitor thier progress. I sent other clients to his company and they all seemed satisfied with what they got.

Well one day while sitting in my office the collision shop's flatbed rolls in and drops the car off in the middle of my parking lot. The picture is EXACTLY what they dropped off a few years later and after collecting about $12,000 bucks. He destroyed my car. I should of sued him but the few lawyers I talked to all wanted a few $1000 bucks up front to even start something up. I could of went to small claims to get what ever they allowed but it seem not worth the hassle.

I'm thinking of making a webpage with about 20 photo's of exactly what he dropped off, the acutal checks that were paid to his company and his name up in bright red letters. I will not slander the man. All I'll do is show everyone what he charged about $12,000 to do.

It was an all original 70 gto convertible.

What would you guys do?

This is not funny and I am not laughing at you but the situation is a killer. Every time I thought about what had happened here I would crack up… I could only envision a mob boss sitting in a chair all dressed with a Italian made suit looking out the front office window with a cigar in his mouth all of a sudden a flat bed truck pulls up and a couple of guys get out and proceed to unload this all broken up car with four flat tires in the parking lot. The mob boss’s right hand man goes hey boss there is your car that those guys were restoring for you. Ya know the ones that you paid several thousand dollars to and they said the car would be restored no problem. Gee boss the car don’t look too good. All of sudden the cigar falls out of the mob boss’s mouth and his jaw hits the floor :eek: The mob boss yells get the machine guns Pauly as his head shoots up and hits the ceiling. LMAO….. That keeps playing upstairs …… There is a sense of laughter there but I would be angry as heck…….. Still LMAO! Cigar hits the floor……… ahem.
geesh..... I have be excused here for a second..........ok

We do need to look at some facts before coming up with a recommendation..
You already admitted that you did not pay close attention to the progress of the work that was being done or in this case lack of work being done. I mentioned this point to you before and it turns out I hit the nail on the head.

Because the lawyers wanted so much money to take on the case you probably did not sign a work order or something detailing what exactly the restore process was going to cover. How are they going to prove what work was to be covered with out a signed work order of some type……. Paying so much money out does not mean a lot of work was going to be done it just means you got ripped off by over paying for something…….


Like I said I would be mad too but if this person did this only once or even twice and he produces good quality work people will be drawn to the quality work he has done and not necessarily to what he had done to you. At the very least people will make sure that all I’s are dotted and T’s crossed on the work order….. And if the guy is half smart, he will not do it again to anyone else.

I would approach him and ask could we financially settle this… He may refuse but then again he may pay some cash back….. He did do some work and I doubt you will see most of the money but at least may be something.

If you were going to blast him on the Internet, I would not use his name directly. I would maybe mention the name of the business and say the owner was at the time so and so…. Without proof of work to be performed you are threading the line of slander and he may strike back with a lawyer this time around and get a big bonus at the end…. We will know if your Web sites all take on a car theme… ACME Hot Rod Liquor and Wine…. Sorry…

[Stevenco]

Stevenco, are you channeling Woodstock, or NightOwl?Shhh.......

[300miles]

After looking at the pictures I really thought this was a joke, Res. If this is real, then I think it would be worth 2 or 3,000 to win back 12,000 or more for penalties. Maybe try to find a different lawyer that only charges if he wins or something.He destroyed that car and probably used the parts to restore his own GTO (at your expense). And what's with all the crap in the back seat?Any pictures of what the car looked like before he started working on it?

[buffy]

WNY res"
I deleted stevenco's post it was off topic

that's not why you deleted it. you deleted it because it was a quote of yours that i posted
it was your reply to my opinion about products which use testimonials to advertise. it said that i had no reason to revive that thread because we should be focusing on impotent politicians.
i put it on your thread about your personal inquiry about your GTO

it illustrated that you felt i was wasting my time and the time of others by posting a thought on an existing thread, why? i have no idea.
Here it is again:
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We still have impotent people in local government and that's where we should be focusing our energies.
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"Whats up Doc" -- Bugs Bunny
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It wasn't taken down because it was off topic. It was taken down because it showed you doing something that you "accused" I was doing.
i don't blame you. i guess a good percentage wouldn't want to be called out on their own board. it is your game.
why do you keep picking on stevenco, WNYres, u big bully!? :mad: :confused: :rolleyes:

[Stevenco]

There's always that kid that takes his basketball home so no one else can play because he missed.

[buffy]

no, i don't think that's HIM
but,
I would like to think that both WNYres & LHardy are man enough to tolerate and/or ignore stevenco's anctics. is it that he exposes an error that likewise proves your vulnerability? ...?

[Stevenco]

Don't do that. It will be deleted.:)

[speaker]

The day after the accident with the drunk driver I had Jim S who runs that car museum down town give me an estimate as the car stood of it's value. After the accident I got a value of $10,000. The car was worth much more before the accident. You have to remember I was driving the car until the day the drunk drive clipped the rear of the car. The car sat in my driveway until the collision shop said they would like to work on the car.

You know, res, sounds like you have all the stuff you need for a lawyer to take action. He'll ask for more, but if you just start off with these pictures and this written info, he'll know you mean business.
This is like and investment, unless the owner of the shop goes under or doesn't have good insurance.
I would be boiling mad.

[DR_GONZO]

Like a previous poster had mentioned, are you sure you have all the original parts that were originally yours? Are you sure this is your car? Still the same VIN number? Something does not sound right about this whole thing. I know I would not let a week go by without checking on the progress my weekly payment towards my baby being fixed after an accident. I went through something like this myself back in the 1990s after an Erie County Water Authority truck decided to pull out into Union Rd. just as I was driving by their driveway. What a headache that became! I guess the idiot thought he had the right of way and Union Rd. traffic should have stopped for him.

[therising]

I'm having a tough time following this:

You paid this guy 12 Grand, he completely destroyed your car, and, years later, you're still considering what to do about it??

$12,000 is a lot of money to me. And you said "it's not so much the money"??

Are you that wealthy?

[WNYresident]

I'm having a tough time following this:

You paid this guy 12 Grand, he completely destroyed your car, and, years later, you're still considering what to do about it??

$12,000 is a lot of money to me. And you said "it's not so much the money"??

Are you that wealthy?

About 2 years after it was dropped off I'm considering what to do. Over the last two years I have heard "boy you got screwed" so many times it's starting to sink in.

I think I'm going to look at this situation as an opportunity though.

[avet]

Over the last two years I have heard "boy you got screwed" so many times it's starting to sink in.

Sounds so much like the situation we have with our local government & it's leaders...doesn't it?

[300miles]

Res - next time something like this happens to you, tell us about it immediately. We will make it sink in much faster than 2 years.

:)

[LaNdReW]

A lesson to teach people not to trust everyone :) Maybe he'll see the webpage and out of guilt give me my hard earned money back.

Yea, and maybe monkeys will fly out of my ass....:D


Please don't tell me this was a 4-speed..or that it had air.

Was it a judge????


Was it like this one??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pontiac-GTO-GUARANTEED-1970-PONTIAC-GTO-CONVERTIBLE-400-4-SPEED_W0QQitemZ4625797429QQcategoryZ7244QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

[citymouse]

My first real car was a 65 GTO. I was 17. It had a 389, four speed, and needless to say, a four barrel. I threw a rod and dumped the car. The guy dropped a new mill in it and drove it for years.
I got married at 19 and we bought a chevy Caprice. ( still have the wife, not the caprice) I should have never sold that GTO. I regret it to this day. Thats why I got so unnreved when I saw your picture and heard your situation. It tugged at my heart strings and brought on a resergence of my own remorse.
You should have acted sooner. It's probably to late now.

[speaker]

Sounds like it's still within the statute of limitations.

[Ragin]

Res ..

I've seen all the records you've kept over the years. You have an entire file of information including a ton of pictures, the invoices and the checks you wrote.

Since time has passed, you need to show that you have not chalked this up to lessons learned. As the potential plaintiff you've got the burden of proof, and the financial loss, not to mention your investment into the car, has got be at the basis of the lawsuit.

The first thing I would do is contact this guy in writing and demand a refund. Inform him of your intent to seek legal remedies, including court costs and/or attorney fees, if he chooses not to settle this matter. Be stern but word it carefully. Do not threaten the guy with bodily harm :p Remember to be diplomatic as anything you say can be used against you. Send it certified mail and get a signed receipt.

If he blows you off, I would look for an attorney as you're still within the legal statute of limitations to bring about a lawsuit. Don't waste another few months or years. It'll cost you attorney fees/retainer upfront, but I believe you might be able to include legal fees in the lawsuit (because you offered him a chance to settle this matter before you sought legal remedies in the letter you sent ;) )
You could do this without an attorney, but if the case proceeds, chances are he will find legal representation of his own and you don't want to be caught in that trap.

I believe you have a shot at winning a judgement against this guy. He may even try to settle out of court. But you can't waste any more time. You've got to decide what to do now and act on it.

[WNYresident]

Yea, and maybe monkeys will fly out of my ass....:D


Please don't tell me this was a 4-speed..or that it had air.

Was it a judge????


Was it like this one??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pontiac-GTO-GUARANTEED-1970-PONTIAC-GTO-CONVERTIBLE-400-4-SPEED_W0QQitemZ4625797429QQcategoryZ7244QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem


Yeah that's it but my is an automatic with a H.O. 400. Not a judge.

[WNYresident]

So what color? IT will never be a points car because of the damage the original collision shop did so the color doesn't have to stay the same. So it might as well look cool though.

What would be a cool color for a car like that?

[300miles]

Are you going to stick with colors available on GTO's in 1970, or are you going with anything now.

I like that copper/metallic-orange color that's been around the past couple years... but that's just me.

:)

[WNYresident]

I dont have to stick to the colors from the 70's. It was like a saddle gold color interior and gold for the body.

We were thinking black but it seems the "motor heads" say black is very high maintance.

http://www.pbase.com/starksw/image/48699032

here's one in white

http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/showcar.cgi?type=show&pic=/1970/70_00012_1

a red one

http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/showcar.cgi?type=show&pic=/1970/70_00016_1

yellow

http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/showcar.cgi?type=show&pic=/1970/70_00048_5

[WNYresident]

What about this color? (http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/showcar.cgi?type=show&pic=/carshows/gtoaa05/70_jk031_2)
(http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/showcar.cgi?type=show&pic=/carshows/gtoaa05/70_jk031_2)

[300miles]

:) .......

[WNYresident]

oh thats a sweet color.

[Pauldo]

Well here's want made me bring this up. My better half went to the UPS store and he was there. He came up to her and was all nice like nothing ever happened. Apparently I guess there are people out there that don't care if they screw people. So that got me thinking. I don't want to let our politicians off the hook for screwing the tax payer and theres not reason why this guy shouldn't be let off the hook either.





Not really a fool. People build trust between each other and take people's word when they give it. Don't look at government politicians as examples. THIER words mean nothing and there are PLENTY of examples of that. Just look around WNY.

The reason the car came back was one of the employees took over the business and knew the guy screwed the car over. He didn't want anything to do with it so he wanted it out of thier building. That guy is now out of the picture and the orginal guy is back there.

How about hiring a lawyer?

[WNYresident]

Except for items like our house closing and items like that my past experiences with lawyers have always cost me more than it was worth. Not really the lawyers fault but when you factor in time and fees sometimes your just spinning wheels.


Maybe this would be the one time it would pay off but then again you never know.

[WNYresident]

I saw my car yesterday....

What a difference

[citymouse]

What about this color? (http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/showcar.cgi?type=show&pic=/carshows/gtoaa05/70_jk031_2)
(http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/showcar.cgi?type=show&pic=/carshows/gtoaa05/70_jk031_2)
That's the one!!

[WNYresident]

You don't think it's too gaudy all orange like that.

They made a yellow in that year too.

[avet]

Took my car to a Custom Car Shop. I gave him my tax return, and told him pimp my ride. But when I looked over his shop, he had what looked like illegals working everywhere. I asked him about it. He said it helps to cut his costs. I trusted him, ....he looked honest.

I just got it back. Now I know what he meant by ....cutting costs.

[WNYresident]

I looked and didn't see any mexicans in the shop. Not that there's anything wrong with mexicans.... just the illegal ones :)

[speaker]

oh thats a sweet color.

Ah, res, you SAID you want a fun car. Love that color.

[WNYresident]

So it's motor time.

Pontiac 265-455 Xtreme Energy XR264HR Cam & Kit (http://www.powerandperformancenews.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=K51-413-9&Store_Code=CC)

http://www.powerandperformancenews.com/store/graphics/00000002/100-100_K-Kit_001.jpg

Well we were going to do completely all stock but I think we are going to go with this.

Oh the guy at CompCAMS (http://www.compcams.com) were great


http://www.compcams.com/Base/Images/Splash/575-350/Splash_003.gif

[ForestBird]

I just replaced my vehicle's starter, in the Rite Aid parking lot on Del&Del.

Fun? Wow !!

[WNYresident]

Pontiac 400 HO






http://www.onlinebuffalo.com/pictures/pontiac400-45.jpg


Pontiac 400 side

http://www.onlinebuffalo.com/pictures/pontiac400-90.jpg

[GeorgeB]

Nice! I say don't stick completely to stock. Build the engine some :) But then again it's not my money, but if it were me I'd build it. I don't think you should go crazy with superchargers or air scoops or anything like that, but it's a muscle car, build accordingly :)

[WNYresident]

Wow they got sound for the different cams so you know what your motor may sound like. They don't have the one for the pontiac up though

Recordings (http://www.compcams.com/Technical/default.asp#Catalogs)

[WNYresident]

Are there any men here that know anything about shift kits and transmissions?

The automatic transmission got dropped off to be rebuilt. They are going to put a shift kit in and replace worn parts....

Exactly what does a shift kit do?

[Batman]

The valves in the tranny. Is it a performance shift kit? If it is, it will shift harder and faster. Major job.

[granpabob]

Are there any men here that know anything about shift kits and transmissions?

The automatic transmission got dropped off to be rebuilt. They are going to put a shift kit in and replace worn parts....

Exactly what does a shift kit do?
it replaces parts that normally wear out. just like replacing gaskets oil filters and plugs on the engine, in some cases they are performance parts that were not available when the car was made that make it shift smoother. or they might change the speed the car shifts at, city driving kits shifts at lower speeds . high performance kits shifts at higher speeds depending on your driving style you can change the shift pattern with a kit. there are many different kits most just replace what was on the car with new parts

[WNYresident]

The valves in the tranny. Is it a performance shift kit? If it is, it will shift harder and faster. Major job.

Yep a performance shift kit I was told along with a new torque converter.

I want to make sure what they are putting in are name brand type stuff. I got screwed once on this car and don't want to buy something that isn't good.

They also know I want it to be completely streetable and a driver. We ain't going drag racing with it.

[granpabob]

terry young in orchard park restores many cars you might want to check with him for leads on where to go. his shop is right in the village.

[forestfirefighter]

I know it's supposedly "wrong" thing to do, but to me it is the right thing to do. I would wait a year or more and beat the idiot into a coma.

[WNYresident]

Yep a performance shift kit I was told along with a new torque converter.

I want to make sure what they are putting in are name brand type stuff. I got screwed once on this car and don't want to buy something that isn't good.

They also know I want it to be completely streetable and a driver. We ain't going drag racing with it.

Trannie is all finished and will be picked up. I'll have a complete itemized list of what was done and the parts used.

I believe the engine is starting to be disassembled this week. I'm gonna try to pop over and get pictures.

It will be the comp cam kit but I have to order rockers arms..


Here's a product list they make for the 1970 Pontiac 400 (http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400114+4294908153+4294839887+42949 25081+115+4294840135)

I want pro magnum rocker arms (http://www.compcams.com/information/Products/RockerArms/ProMagnum.asp) but they don't seem to make these for the Pontiac.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/cca-1332-1_w.jpg


I found Cams Magnum Steel Roller Tip Rockers (http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400114+300350+115&autoview=sku) which are more like this but I would rather find a set with bearings at the mount point.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/cca-1411-16_w.jpg



They have COMP Cams Aluminum Roller Rocker Arms (http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400114+304424+115&autoview=sku) but then you have to use different valve covers for them to fit it seems. I'd rather not do that.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/cca-1001-16_w.jpg

[WNYresident]

I know it's supposedly "wrong" thing to do, but to me it is the right thing to do. I would wait a year or more and beat the idiot into a coma.

That thought crossed my mind when I saw the car rolling off the flat bed and I realized it was mine. Talk about your pulse going up :)

[WNYresident]

We were BS'ing tonite about the top. Have to find someone who would be good at stitching a new top for it. Also still tossed up on color combo for body/interior/top.

[WNYresident]

Wow :) This is like a TOY STORE! (http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=4294908153+4294925232+4294907393+4 294840135+4294925081+115&rsview=sku&Nao=50&Ns=P%5FRank%7C0#rstop)

[WNYresident]

There we go. One freshly rebuilt Pontiac 400 Transmission. They cleaned the outside some but it needs to be done better. The guys Northeaster Transmission on Bailey did it were excellent. Was done a lot quicker than I thought it would take.

http://www.onlinebuffalo.com/pictures/transmission400.jpg


Even got a new Tork Converter to go along with it.

http://www.onlinebuffalo.com/pictures/torkconverter.jpg

[WNYresident]

Well I thought Monday was going to be a dull day but another part came in!

Performer Ppontiac manifold for 326-455 C.I.D. V8's from 1965 - 79


http://www.onlinebuffalo.com/pictures/intakeedelbrockpontiac.jpg


Pontiac GTO parts sales (http://www.amesperf.com/)

www.amesperf.com

[LaNdReW]

Well I thought Monday was going to be a dull day but another part came in!

Performer Ppontiac manifold for 326-455 C.I.D. V8's from 1965 - 79


http://www.onlinebuffalo.com/pictures/intakeedelbrockpontiac.jpg


Pontiac GTO parts sales (http://www.amesperf.com/)

www.amesperf.com (http://www.amesperf.com)


What carb are you going to use?

[WNYresident]

a Speed Demon 650 CFM (http://www.barrygrant.com/demon/default.aspx?page=10).... i'm taking the advice of friends... They are motor heads.. we don't want something that isn't drivable.

http://www.barrygrant.com/images/demon/catalog/p10_r1_c5.jpg

[LaNdReW]

a Speed Demon 650 CFM (http://www.barrygrant.com/demon/default.aspx?page=10).... i'm taking the advice of friends... They are motor heads.. we don't want something that isn't drivable.

http://www.barrygrant.com/images/demon/catalog/p10_r1_c5.jpg

Cool, ya dont want to over carb it. My SB 400 ran great with a 600cfm holly (an 0-1850)

[WNYresident]

Flame-Thrower® HEI Performance Distributors for Pontiacs (http://www.pertronix.com/new_products/ignition_press/ig_pg8.htm)


This is the ignition we are looking at...


PerTronix announces the availability of their Flame-Thrower® HEI performance distributors for Pontiac V8 applications. Part numbers D1200 (black cap), D1201 (red cap) and D1202 (blue cap) fit all 265, 350, 400 and 455 CID engines.
According to PerTronix, these units use new components (not remanufactured) and feature a specially engineered module and coil combination that operates without misfires up to a minimum of 7500 RPM, nearly 3000 RPM higher than most enthusiasts report with their original HEI.


http://www.pertronix.com/new_products/ignition_press/ignition_images/thumb/26110013.jpg

[LaNdReW]

Flame-Thrower® HEI Performance Distributors for Pontiacs (http://www.pertronix.com/new_products/ignition_press/ig_pg8.htm)




This is the ignition we are looking at...






http://www.pertronix.com/new_products/ignition_press/ignition_images/thumb/26110013.jpg




Looks good, not too much of an expert on aftermarket ignition.

I ran a std HEI with an accel coil. Never had any ignition problems.

[WNYresident]

I"m listening to friends who are motor heads. I have the original parts but seeing the car had SO MUCH done to it I might as well replace things that may become an issue. I'm saving all the old parts if one day someone wanted to put it all back to original they could. Gonna be a tork monster as they put it.

[WNYresident]

It came in today! It's almost a complete engine.




http://www.onlinebuffalo.com/pictures/flamethrowerdistributor.jpg


Flame-Thrower® HEI Performance Distributors for Pontiacs

PerTronix announces the availability of their Flame-Thrower® HEI performance distributors for Pontiac V8 applications. Part numbers D1200 (black cap), D1201 (red cap) and D1202 (blue cap) fit all 265, 350, 400 and 455 CID engines.


According to PerTronix, these units use new components (not remanufactured) and feature a specially engineered module and coil combination that operates without misfires up to a minimum of 7500 RPM, nearly 3000 RPM higher than most enthusiasts report with their original HEI.


Compared to the stock HEI, PerTronix claims their units will produce 67% more energy in the coil with 45% faster spark breakdown time and deliver twice the energy across the spark gap. Each distributor uses a new aluminum housing cast and machined from strong but lightweight A384 alloy. Distributors are supplied with a high dielectric strength cap with solid brass terminals, a balanced rotor and low resistance center coil brush, nylon rotor hold-down screws, adjustable ignition vacuum advance and a factory installed high performance mechanical curve kit with precision stamped weights and center plate.

[WNYresident]

It finally got here.

Speed Demon 650 Carb

Now I hope we can put all this stuff together :)

http://www.onlinebuffalo.com/pictures/speeddemon1.jpg

[Crisco Kid]

What the heck is a "Jewish Lightning?"

. . . one. It has to do with a fire that may not have not started by natural causes.

[WNYresident]

More parts... You know it never ends...

Everything has to look nice.

www.butlerperformance.com (http://www.butlerperformance.com)

They were way helpful on the phone.

http://www.butlerperformance.com/images/DressUpMIsc/FRONT.jpg

[FJB]

I have a edelbrock 750 cfm carburator with matching intake manifold for a 350 engine. The carb would fit just about all engines. These two need to be cleaned or rebuilt but i'll let em go real cheap if anyone is interested.

[WNYresident]

I have a edelbrock 750 cfm carburator with matching intake manifold for a 350 engine. The carb would fit just about all engines. These two need to be cleaned or rebuilt but i'll let em go real cheap if anyone is interested.

Ebay it. Lot of car parts go that way

[Surfing USA]

Is this yours? If not, it's an almost eerie resemblance.

http://www.slyagent.com/70gto/PDRM0021.JPG
http://www.slyagent.com/70gto/PDRM0016.JPG

[WNYresident]

Review this post (http://forums.speakupwny.com/showpost.php?p=100134&postcount=46)

IT's time to pick a color for the car. I'm am like stumped...

Does it just go back to the same exact color it was or some new color.

[wheresthesun]

Review this post (http://forums.speakupwny.com/showpost.php?p=100134&postcount=46)

IT's time to pick a color for the car. I'm am like stumped...

Does it just go back to the same exact color it was or some new color.
That rust color on the hood is pretty nice...

[buffy]

Original color was gold, ...that's seems a bit too pimped up for you.

you need a metallic somewhere between gold and rust

[WNYresident]

Original color was gold, ...that's seems a bit too pimped up for you.

you need a metallic somewhere between gold and rust

That would be like well... brown.. ewwwwwwww

[concernedwnyer]

Metalic P.U.R.P.L.E

[buffy]

Metallic orange
1240

[WNYresident]

Metalic P.U.R.P.L.E

Don't know about purple....

This is sort of cool....


http://www.bcautos.com/musclecars/ab0gtojud.jpg


http://www.bcautos.com/musclecars/ab0gtojud2.jpg


It's a muscle car... not a grape :) this is more bluish/black

http://www.bcautos.com/musclecars/69gtoshow.jpg

[WNYresident]

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/18283/2316112200026923846S425x425Q85.jpg


There's red

[300miles]

do you ever plan to sell it to a car geek someday or are you planning on keeping it? A car guy may think it's more valuable if it's painted the original color, or at least one of the authentic colors from the year it came out.

[WNYresident]

It's not a goat but here's a cool looking gold type color

http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/17272/2995513230026923846S425x425Q85.jpg

[WNYresident]

do you ever plan to sell it to a car geek someday or are you planning on keeping it? A car guy may think it's more valuable if it's painted the original color, or at least one of the authentic colors from the year it came out.

I dont really know.. It was awefully fun to drive... I will have all the original parts saved from the engine. It was threw quite a bit so I could never sell it as a "original" car. Had loads of body restoration done to it.

[WNYresident]

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/18717/1476793630010109963S425x425Q85.jpg


Well this really isn't all that bad once you see it.

[concernedwnyer]

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/18717/1476793630010109963S425x425Q85.jpg


Well this really isn't all that bad once you see it.
Two tone it... It is a big car for all one color. Add striping too.

[WNYresident]

Two tone it... It is a big car for all one color. Add striping too.


two tone it? You know how OVER budget this project became?!

[WNYresident]

It's now completely sandblasted with all major body restoration work completed.


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1438146535/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1324/1438146535_ed6d0680cb.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO pontiac Convertible body" /></a>

Could put a couple of bodies in here

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1438146057/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1412/1438146057_9e771a2714.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Pontiac Convertible body" /></a>

Bottom looks as good as the top

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1438146303/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1039/1438146303_2362289541.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Pontiac Convertible body" /></a>


Areo collision & Fabrication is doing the work. Did you know they are located in Lancaster on Ransom Road. They also do very good collision work.

[therising]

It's not a goat but here's a cool looking gold type color

http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/17272/2995513230026923846S425x425Q85.jpg

The gold gets my vote.

But, anyone who can afford to spend this many years on a car shouldn't be taking advice from someone as poor as me. :)

[buffy]

http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/17272/2995513230026923846S425x425Q85.jpg
That's the one...so maschile!

[WNYresident]

The gold gets my vote.

But, anyone who can afford to spend this many years on a car shouldn't be taking advice from someone as poor as me. :)

It's really not that bad because it's spread over many years. That's why it's taking so long.

[CheektowagaFan]

Just JUNK it dude!

[WNYresident]

Just JUNK it dude!

Never... it can't just go to a junk yard... There's a real snotty engine sitting at Napa on Wherle just waiting to be installed. It's just sitting wrapped in plastic ready to go. Just needs some cool water pump to finish it off. Roller tip rockers, chain, lifters and cam from www.compcams.com (http://www.compcams.com). There's a Edelbrock 2156 pontiac manifold from www.amesperf.com (http://www.amesperf.com) over that with a Speed Demon 650 CFM (http://www.barrygrant.com/demon/default.aspx?page=10) topping it off. Seeing we upgraded all of that we had to put a high performance distributor on it from www.pertronix.com (http://www.pertronix.com). Thats going to be bolted to a turbo 400 transmission with shift kit done by Northeastern transmissions on Bailey. They have been there for a LONG time. That's all going to be hooked to the rear end by a driveshaft from www.dennydriveshaft.com (http://www.dennydriveshaft.com). It's not machined yet. Measurements have to be taken once the rear axle/engine are all bolted in. Way lighter than the original. ALL the original parts will be packed in boxes if someone ever wants to put it all back togeather once I'm dead.

Now why would I want to junk the car with all that stuff just sitting around?

[WNYresident]

So is gold all that bad? (http://www.carrollstauto.com/site/Inventory/pontiac/70_pontiac_gto_gold/70_pontiac_gto_gold.htm)

http://www.carrollstauto.com/site/Inventory/pontiac/70_pontiac_gto_gold/IMG_2905.JPG


http://www.carrollstauto.com/site/Inventory/pontiac/70_pontiac_gto_gold/IMG_2900.JPG

[therising]

I actually prefer the all-gold, to the black and gold.

[WNYresident]

That was the orginal color. Choosing a color isn't easy. Once it's painted thats the color it's going to be for a LONG time :)

[buffy]

go with the all-gold - understated and elegant

[concernedwnyer]

Metalic PURPLE ....... and just for buffy some gold trim....

[joe d.]

Never... it can't just go to a junk yard... There's a real snotty engine sitting at Napa on Wherle just waiting to be installed. It's just sitting wrapped in plastic ready to go. Just needs some cool water pump to finish it off. Roller tip rockers, chain, lifters and cam from www.compcams.com (http://www.compcams.com). There's a Edelbrock 2156 pontiac manifold from www.amesperf.com (http://www.amesperf.com) over that with a Speed Demon 650 CFM (http://www.barrygrant.com/demon/default.aspx?page=10) topping it off. Seeing we upgraded all of that we had to put a high performance distributor on it from www.pertronix.com (http://www.pertronix.com). Thats going to be bolted to a turbo 400 transmission with shift kit done by Northeastern transmissions on Bailey. They have been there for a LONG time. That's all going to be hooked to the rear end by a driveshaft from www.dennydriveshaft.com (http://www.dennydriveshaft.com). It's not machined yet. Measurements have to be taken once the rear axle/engine are all bolted in. Way lighter than the original. ALL the original parts will be packed in boxes if someone ever wants to put it all back togeather once I'm dead.

Now why would I want to junk the car with all that stuff just sitting around?
Does it have a trailer hitch?? You're gonna need it to tow that gasoline tanker truck to fuel the gas you're gonna need to run that dinosaur:D

[WNYresident]

http://www.napaonline.com/Marketing/banner2.jpg (http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLWelcome.aspx)


Napa Auto Parts (http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLWelcome.aspx) at 2399 Wehrle Dr, Williansville, 632-8000 did an awesome job.

Thomas Battaglia is the guy they have in the machine shop there.


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1621878670/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2054/1621878670_e1709bb16a.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac 400 Engine" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1620990027/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2369/1620990027_f33ef47f9e.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac 400 Engine" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1619368403/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/1619368403_ff0dc582a1.jpg" width="424" height="500" alt="Rebuilt Pontiac 400 Engine" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1620257776/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2173/1620257776_9fdbfc4237.jpg" width="486" height="500" alt="Rebuilt Pontiac 400 Engine" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1737946103/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2120/1737946103_a95767475d.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="Pontiac 400 engine" /></a>

[WNYresident]

Does it have a trailer hitch?? You're gonna need it to tow that gasoline tanker truck to fuel the gas you're gonna need to run that dinosaur:D

I bought a kit that lets it run on water :) Or at least that's what it says on the box.

[wishfulthinkin66]

Well here's want made me bring this up. My better half went to the UPS store and he was there. He came up to her and was all nice like nothing ever happened. Apparently I guess there are people out there that don't care if they screw people. So that got me thinking. I don't want to let our politicians off the hook for screwing the tax payer and theres not reason why this guy shouldn't be let off the hook either.





Not really a fool. People build trust between each other and take people's word when they give it. Don't look at government politicians as examples. THIER words mean nothing and there are PLENTY of examples of that. Just look around WNY.

The reason the car came back was one of the employees took over the business and knew the guy screwed the car over. He didn't want anything to do with it so he wanted it out of thier building. That guy is now out of the picture and the orginal guy is back there.
I know it is a year later but what the heck the car sat for ever .....What ever happened did you do anything with it! Also You would think instead of dumping it off the new owner of the company should have made good on it..or at least as best he can.. that would be good business I would say! They bought good with the bad.... If you just now bought your business and there where a few broken computers that where already paid to be fixed I bet you would fix them before you just delivered them and said OH WELL....

I just feel bad that this guy did that to you!

[WNYresident]

So does anyone know of a company in WNY that is noted for rebuilding the read end/axle of cars?

[HipKat]

http://www.napaonline.com/Marketing/banner2.jpg (http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLWelcome.aspx)


Napa Auto Parts (http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLWelcome.aspx) at 2399 Wehrle Dr, Williansville, 632-8000 did an awesome job.

Thomas Battaglia is the guy they have in the machine shop there.




I remember Tom from when I worked at international Chimney and we got our parts there.
He is the man!!

[HipKat]

So is gold all that bad? (http://www.carrollstauto.com/site/Inventory/pontiac/70_pontiac_gto_gold/70_pontiac_gto_gold.htm)

http://www.carrollstauto.com/site/Inventory/pontiac/70_pontiac_gto_gold/IMG_2905.JPG


http://www.carrollstauto.com/site/Inventory/pontiac/70_pontiac_gto_gold/IMG_2900.JPG



That's the same car???
Obvioulsy I missed the start of this tread.
WOW!

[WNYresident]

NO!... egads...that one wasn't destroyed.

Mine was that gold though. I still haven't decided the color yet....

we are leaning towards black with a tan/saddle interior and tan top...

[HipKat]

Well, no matter what anyone says, I'd save the car.
I only read the first page, so, whatever happened to the guy that let it rot?

[WNYresident]

Well, no matter what anyone says, I'd save the car.
I only read the first page, so, whatever happened to the guy that let it rot?

He's around. I haven't seen him and I don't believe he's involved in the original company any more.

[HipKat]

I don't suppose you ever named him or his company here, did you?

[WNYresident]

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2147404903/" title="frontframecomplete by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2295/2147404903_736b0500d3.jpg" width="500" height="253" alt="frontframecomplete" /></a>

It's going to be disassembled, sandblasted and sprayed.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2148160836/" title="frontframe by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2238/2148160836_ff30443356.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="frontframe" /></a>

being 37 years old it's going to need the rubber bushings replaced.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2148160362/" title="bushings by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2267/2148160362_aaf144d394.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="bushings" /></a>

[WNYresident]

oh I wanted to brag about the company that is doing the work on the car. They are on Ransom road in Lancaster. Areo Restoration and Collision.

Check out thier spray booth.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2147692903/" title="paintbooth by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2004/2147692903_826030ef86.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="paintbooth" /></a>

You can put one heck of a vehicle in there.

Every area of the car body has easy access.. They can rotate the body for access to all areas.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2147367867/" title="painbtbooth4 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2366/2147367867_a9400b79fb.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="painbtbooth4" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2147693123/" title="paintbooth3 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2382/2147693123_ee36e30ab8.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="paintbooth3" /></a>


The painter uses a air mask plus the entire paint booth is ventilated

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2148488118/" title="paintboothspray3 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2380/2148488118_0fa5e22426.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="paintboothspray3" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2147693423/" title="paintboothspray by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2405/2147693423_b16f3bd7fd.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="paintboothspray" /></a>


Isn't this cool!

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2148161136/" title="gtobodyunderside by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2088/2148161136_6db96479b8.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="gtobodyunderside" /></a>

[WNYresident]

I should have some cool pictures tomarrow.

We decided to let yet another local company Stainless Steel Brakes Corporation (http://www.ssbrakes.com/about) to update the brakes.




Stainless Steel Brakes Corporation (http://www.ssbrakes.com/)</B> (SSBC) first pioneered the stainless steel sleeved caliper for classic Corvette and Mustangs back in 1975. We are the industry standard for high quality brake systems and components, offering a complete line of disc brake conversions and performance brake upgrades for classic muscle cars, late model performance vehicles, street rods and customs, trucks/SUVs and sport compacts.
</SPAN>
Starting out as a small business, SSBC broke through the challenges many small companies face, and is now thriving in its 2nd generation of family ownership. Located in Clarence, NY (near Buffalo), the past few years have seen the purchase and expansion into an adjacent building, and the construction of a new Research & Development wing. In all, over 15,000 square feet was added.

As our motto, Braking Rules, states, braking is the top priority at SSBC. While at the same time, we’re breaking many traditional design constraints to develop new products. In keeping with that philosophy, we have and will continue to take steps to improve our capabilities. Some recent steps include:

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Purchasing a 3D printer that allows us to produce sample parts to check fitment
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Replacing three outdated CNC machining centers with four new ones in 2004; another new CNC has since been added, bringing our total number to nine
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HRIA (http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=10808) - Hot Rod Industry Alliance
NSRA (http://www.nsra-usa.com/) - National Street Rod Association</B>
NCRS (http://www.ncrs.org/) - National Corvette Restorers Society</B> In 1999, 2000 and 2007, we were honored with awards in the Best New Product category at the annual SEMA Show. We followed that up by winning prestigious GM SEMA Design Awards in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2007. We look forward to breaking through the obstacles of continued innovation and growth.



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[WNYresident]

Check it out.

I would easily recommend Areo Collision for work on any car.



<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2469061166/" title="Pontiac GTO frame 1970 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/2469061166_2a396ec92e.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac GTO frame 1970" /></a>

The frame was put on holder that allowed them to spin it around as they painted it.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2468238939/" title="Pontiac GTO frame 1970 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/237/2468238939_830d6691a1.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac GTO frame 1970" /></a>

[WNYresident]

This was cool. I had to check how the car was coming along and saw some cool custom work.

It seems the front tires were wearing threw the hood of this pro mod drag car. The car is based out of Florida but tuned at Jan/Cen Motor Sports in Elma NY.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2490584832/" title="Custom Carbon Fiber Fabrication by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2490584832_b05028f3fd.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Custom Carbon Fiber Fabrication" /></a>

So to correct this issue Aero Collision fabricated 2 small scoops to give the tires some more clearance.

He cut out the area that was damage from tire wear.

They took modeling foam which is produced in N. Tonawanda and made a mold of the piece they wanted to create.

You can see the two damaged cutout pieces on the right. The foam mold and the small carbon fiber scoop once it cured on the left.

It took about 4 hours to cure once the epoxy carbon resin was put on the carbon fiber sheet that was pressed into the mold. Once cured they trimmed the piece and glued the piece on the hood. They took another sheet of carbon fiber and laid it over that piece to re-enforce the part.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2489770741/" title="Custom Carbon Fiber Fabrication by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2117/2489770741_6c8d84f0e9.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Custom Carbon Fiber Fabrication" /></a>

The finished scoop. Under each scoop there should be enough clearance not to have tire wear.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2489769597/" title="Custom Carbon Fiber Fabrication by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/2489769597_25602267b8.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Custom Carbon Fiber Fabrication" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2489771629/" title="Custom Carbon Fiber Fabrication by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/2489771629_96b2eda197.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Custom Carbon Fiber Fabrication" /></a>

[WNYresident]

Check this new product out by a local company in Lancaster. Aero Restoration in Lancaster picked these as rotor upgrades:

Big Bite Cross Drilled Rotors (http://ssbrakes.com/brakeproducts/brakerotors/BigBiteRotors)

You know what is just as important as moving forward? Stopping...


Look what they now have available for old muscle cars

Direct replacement rotors.

SSBC

Big Bite Cross Drilled Rotors (http://ssbrakes.com/brakeproducts/brakerotors/BigBiteRotors)


At Stainless Steel Brakes Corporation (SSBC), we wouldn’t offer cross drilled rotors until we could design and produce a product worthy of the SSBC name. We took the time to research, design and manufacture the highest quality performance cross drilled rotors. And now we’re unleashing it onto the marketplace. SSBC Big Bite Cross Drilled Rotors.

You can see my old rotor versus the new shiney rotor. There is a coating that should protect them from rusting like the old rotors have.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2536380539/" title="Big Bite Cross Drilled Rotors by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/2536380539_f26358f5c1.jpg" width="500" height="326" alt="Big Bite Cross Drilled Rotors" /></a>


You can see how these are vented compared to older style rotors. They should run cooler than old stock rotors because of better airflow.


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2537200362/" title="Big Bite Cross Drilled Rotors by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3275/2537200362_f16227d5cf.jpg" width="500" height="417" alt="Big Bite Cross Drilled Rotors" /></a>

[WNYresident]

Pontiac GTO repaired Cross Member

What do you do when you have a bad part?

You make one.

You can see how the transmission cross member was rotted at the ends. Aero Restoration (Buffalo Muscle Car Restoration) (716-685-2376) in Lancaster NY made new ends.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2546231382/" title="Pontiac GTO Transmission Cross Member Repair by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2546231382_3d4bbd36cc.jpg" width="500" height="279" alt="Pontiac GTO Transmission Cross Member Repair" /></a>

The end was cut off and a new end was TIG welded on. Now the piece will be cleaned up, primed and painted.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2546234482/" title="Pontiac GTO Transmission Cross Member Repair by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2546234482_e748d6687d.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac GTO Transmission Cross Member Repair" /></a>


Cross member hold down bracket's were made from 304 stainless steel. The old ones weren't rotted like the ends but the new ones are much stronger. The left is the old and the right are the newly made parts.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2545407435/" title="Pontiac GTO Transmission Cross Member Repair by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2545407435_f22db64e8e.jpg" width="500" height="238" alt="Pontiac GTO Transmission Cross Member Repair" /></a>

These parts could have be purchased re stamped but on some older cars parts are no longer available. When that's the case they need to be made from scratch.

For the most part it seems they can make just about anything that needs replacing.

[keyboard150]

I bought a kit that lets it run on water :) Or at least that's what it says on the box.


Did you really buy that thing?


Is that the thing we were talking about a few months ago?

[WNYresident]

Did you really buy that thing?


Is that the thing we were talking about a few months ago?

No..... I looked to see what it was and it didn't look like anything realistic...

[keyboard150]

No..... I looked to see what it was and it didn't look like anything realistic...


Damn. I was hoping someone was going to test it.

[WNYresident]

It's coming along. Areo Restoration (716-685-2376) just finished assembling the front part of the frame.

You can see that http://www.ssbrakes.com/ in this case are drop-in replacements.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2604517115/" title="1970 GTO Pontiac with SSBC Rotors by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3116/2604517115_fded177304.jpg" width="500" height="400" alt="1970 GTO Pontiac with SSBC Rotors" /></a>

Rebuilt calipers with stainless steel brake lines.

We used the Big Bite Cross Drilled Rotors

http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/images.home.page/01.SuperTwin.red.drilled.jpg (http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/brakeproducts/brakerotors/BigBiteRotors)


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2604518949/" title="1970 GTO Pontiac with SSBC Rotors by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2604518949_9186d5333b.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Pontiac with SSBC Rotors" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2604520831/" title="1970 GTO Pontiac with SSBC Rotors by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2604520831_485828946b.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Pontiac with SSBC Rotors" /></a>





The rear end is being rebuilt by another local company. Should be back this week. Brand new posi until and 3.55 gears. More details to follow.

[WNYresident]

Rear end is almost finished!

Did you guys know there is another local company into muscle cars?

BRK Racing Engines.... They are at 11312 Walden Ave in Alden... 716-937-0477

They rebuilt the rear end using an Eaton Posi Unit. Part# ETN-19674-010




http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/ven/norm/133.gif
(http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Markets/Automotive/ProductsandSolutions/Differentials/index.htm)More grip, less slip. (http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Markets/Automotive/ProductsandSolutions/Differentials/index.htm)

Big torque doesn't have to mean big traction problems. Eaton Posi Performance differentials combine carbon friction discs with precision-forged gears to give you great traction, even under higher torque loads. Plus, the carbon friction discs produce smooth, quiet performance for the life of your vehicle.



<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#f5f5f5';" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(245,245,245)" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='#FFFFFF'"><TD class=overview-c1 width="25%">Part Number:</TD><TD class=overview-c2 width="75%">ETN-19674-010</TD></TR><TR onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#f5f5f5';" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='#FFFFFF'"><TD class=overview-c1 width="25%">Aftermarket Carrier Style:</TD><TD class=overview-c2 width="75%">Clutch-style limited slip</TD></TR><TR onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#f5f5f5';" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='#FFFFFF'"><TD class=overview-c1 width="25%">Cover Bolts:</TD><TD class=overview-c2 width="75%">10</TD></TR><TR onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#f5f5f5';" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='#FFFFFF'"><TD class=overview-c1 width="25%">Axle Shaft Spline Quantity:</TD><TD class=overview-c2 width="75%">28</TD></TR><TR onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#f5f5f5';" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='#FFFFFF'"><TD class=overview-c1 width="25%">Manufacturer of Axle:</TD><TD class=overview-c2 width="75%">GM</TD></TR><TR onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#f5f5f5';" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='#FFFFFF'"><TD class=overview-c1 width="25%">Carrier Material:</TD><TD class=overview-c2 width="75%">Steel</TD></TR><TR onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#f5f5f5';" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='#FFFFFF'"><TD class=overview-c1 width="25%">Quantity:</TD><TD class=overview-c2 width="75%">Sold individually.</TD></TR><TR onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#f5f5f5';" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='#FFFFFF'"><TD class=overview-c1 width="25%">Notes:</TD><TD class=overview-c2 width="75%">Designed for 3.36 and higher gear ratios.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/2608903044_065cd656c0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2608903044/)

The old unit was not a posi unit.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/2608071589_c7c2df32e1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2608071589/)

It's about time this whole project is starting to look like a car.....

Once the engine/rear/body are mounted it's gonna be

http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/assets/images/header2.jpg (http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com)

www.dennysdriveshaft.com (http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com) who will hook the engine to the rear end. Another local company who ships products all over the USA.

Check this logo out :)

http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/assets/images/olm_logo.gif

[LaNdReW]

Those binders look sweet! Great investment.

Any reason why you didn't go with a numerically higher gear ratio on your rear end?

[WNYresident]

Those binders look sweet! Great investment.

Any reason why you didn't go with a numerically higher gear ratio on your rear end?

Well I'm taking the advice of the guys doing the work and thats what they got.

Remember what Napa Auto Parts at 2399 Wehrle Dr, Williansville, 632-8000 built?

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1619368403/" title="Rebuilt Pontiac 400 Engine by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/1619368403_ff0dc582a1.jpg" width="424" height="500" alt="Rebuilt Pontiac 400 Engine" /></a>

A little tork monster. That's why we got the posi.

A higher gear ratio will improve gas mileage but you lose acceleration. You also have a higher top speed with higher gear ratios. So with all that said they got 3.55's. That's about all I know :) I know the gears can be changed if needed.

[LaNdReW]

Well I'm taking the advice of the guys doing the work and thats what they got.

Remember what Napa Auto Parts at 2399 Wehrle Dr, Williansville, 632-8000 built?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/1619368403_ff0dc582a1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1619368403/)

A little tork monster. That's why we got the posi.

A higher gear ratio will improve gas mileage but you lose acceleration. You also have a higher top speed with higher gear ratios. So with all that said they got 3.55's. That's about all I know :) I know the gears can be changed if needed.

Torque is where its at on the street. I had 3:73's in my built for torque small block, it was great. With a posi and sticky tires, holeshots were great... cruising on the expressway at 80mph and the engine was screaming! 3.55 to 7.73 to 4.11 at 60mph the rpms get higher from left to right. Ill defer to the experts.

BTW, Looks like you got alot of carb there.

[WNYresident]

Barry Grant 650..... has cool glass ports on the side to adjust the floats. One of the guys who knows the guy at napa who did the motor work picked it. He's worked with them before. That can be changed too if things don't run well :) Everything is adjustable... THere are all different brands of carbs.. I don't know what makes one better than another. This one just looks cool.

I'm not a car person... I'm being consulted by friends leaving most of my trust with the guy doing the body.... The frame looks so cool :) it's not even all assembled yet..

The guy who rebuilt the rear end along with Ken from areo picked the eaton posi/gear ratio out. I looked at summit racing and there are diffent brands of posi's. I don't know the difference :) do you? They worked with the eaton posi so that why they picked it.

I wouldn't have a clue to what a proper gear ratio would be anyways. I completely understand what the gearing does but have no idea what a car would drive like with 3 different rear gear ratios. I bet the car is gonna be quick wether there was 2.73 or 3.28 or 3.55 or 4.11.. know what i mean? :) If it completely sucks on gas or is a beast at 70 miles per hour we'll just numerically lower the ratio. I think the eaton posi stated 3.28 is the lowest they recommend.

We almost ordered the exhaust but an hour later they changed thier mind. THey are seeing what the proper magnaflow/headers would be versus a kit from a company called pypes with doug headers... Once again I don't really know the difference in brands... Ken does want ceramic coated headers. Everyone so far said ceramic coated is the way to go.

We could just use the stock exhaust headers that were on the engine but why :) Gone this far might as well get something cool..

[Surfing USA]

Are you planning on drag racing, showing (ie: car shows), or using it for pleasure cruising?

[Surfing USA]

Here's a website that may help you decide on the gears:

http://www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/0803sr_final_gear_ratios/index.html

[WNYresident]

Are you planning on drag racing, showing (ie: car shows), or using it for pleasure cruising?

Just a driver. Not really drag racing... I live about 5 minutes from the office so gas mileage isn't a top issue. I have a toyota XB Scion that gets awesome miles per gallon.

[BlaCkROcKDan]

got wood....nice....

[Roadrunner69]

Ahh I can hear it now, that high pitch whine to the rear, of a set of 4:11 gears cruising down Sheridan then power down shifting and blowing off that POS next to you that has no idea what you have under the hood. Sorry flash back to the 70's.

[WNYresident]

Ahh I can hear it now, that high pitch whine to the rear, of a set of 4:11 gears cruising down Sheridan then power down shifting and blowing off that POS next to you that has no idea what you have under the hood. Sorry flash back to the 70's.

So you think the new remade GTO's are quicker than the orginal ones? I never drove one of the new GTO's pontiac's have.

[Roadrunner69]

I was talking about cruising Sheridan in the 70's, but as far as the new GTO's go a friend of mine down here in Florida had one that put 575 hp to the rear wheels and it flew. The ride is much more comfortable and the car handles like a bear. He won the dyno challenge at Bradenton at a big GTO weekend they had up there a year or so ago. He has since sold the car, is was bright red with black int. and dark tint windows one bad looking ride.

[therising]

I'm obviously in the wrong business, and I'm jealous as hell, cause I can't afford to spend money on toys like this.

What the heck am I doing wrong? :mad: :o :) :confused:

[LaNdReW]

So you think the new remade GTO's are quicker than the orginal ones? I never drove one of the new GTO's pontiac's have.

No Doubt they are... 400hp, real suspension, real brakes..BUT

They just aren't as cool!

[WNYresident]

Does anyone actually remember what we started out with?



<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2617502096/" title="1970 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2617502096_e2c3008bdd.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="1970 pontiac GTO" /></a>



<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2616680051/" title="1970 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2616680051_01aa945b0d.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="1970 pontiac GTO" /></a>


The after pictures are way better ....

[Surfing USA]

No Doubt they are... 400hp, real suspension, real brakes..BUT

They just aren't as cool!Quickness is not all about horse power though.

[WNYresident]

This was a fun piece...


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2617531046/" title="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/2617531046_b9a9f6daf6.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor" /></a>


The Speed Demon™ series is the most formidable performance street carburetor available today. It features the most advanced design manufacturing processes that provides street enthusiasts with racing carburetor technology in a very driveable package.

The Speed Demon™ line offers a wide range of sizes and in VE-series (vacuum secondaries, electric choke) or twin-squirter (mechanical secondaries) designs. Across the range of sizes, from 575 cfm to 850 cfm, the Speed Demons deliver balanced, high-velocity airflow and exceptional fuel metering capacity to match the fuel requirements most street engines.

A Speed Demon™ carburetor is ideal for muscle cars, stock rebuilds, tow trucks, mild performance applications and crate motors. They are designed for engines with cam profiles between 220 and 240 degrees duration at 0.050".

The Barry Grant Speed Demon 650 Carburetor. (http://www.barrygrant.com/demon/default.aspx?page=10)

Now isn't this cool. Demon engraved right on the front.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2617532084/" title="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2617532084_9b3a8c77d7.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor" /></a>

This one happens to be a 4 barrel. Perfect to flush $5 a gallon gasoline. What more do you want.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2616709953/" title="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2616709953_84e25901f2.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2617531206/" title="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/2617531206_8886c5f66e.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor" /></a>

Completely adjustable..

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2617531418/" title="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2617531418_058d24c09a.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor" /></a>


It even has glass ports to see float levels..

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2616709753/" title="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3034/2616709753_a16c564520.jpg" width="500" height="417" alt="Speed Demon 650 Pontiac Carburetor" /></a>

[Surfing USA]

NEON SRT4 vs. GTO 6.0L :eek: :eek: :eek:

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[WNYresident]

The older ones seem sort of cooler .


1970 GTO

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[Surfing USA]

The older ones seem sort of cooler.No doubt. :)

[WNYresident]

Oh this was another cool add on.

Pontiac 265-455 Xtreme Energy XR264HR Cam Kit (http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CC&Product_Code=K51-413-9)

This is worse than upgrading your computer.

This is a cam kit from Comp Cams


COMP Cams®-The Absolute Leader In Valve Train Performance
COMP Cams® manufactures truly superior hydraulic and solid flat tappet, hyd and mechanical roller, and overhead camshafts for everything from OE replacement to full race, designed and manufactured using cutting-edge technology and the finest engineering in the industry. Whether your engine is naturally aspirated, or you run nitrous, or a supercharger or turbo, our cams make more horsepower than any other. Looking for that ultimate hard-hitting muscle car idle? Check out our aggressive new Thumpr™Cams. Match our camshafts up with our competition-grade lifters, valve springs, timing sets, and other supporting components, and you’ll experience the ultimate in race-winning reliability!

From Hi-Tech To Vintage, COMP Cams® Has Got You Covered!
We make the very finest performance camshafts and peripheral components for late model fuel injected, or EFI engines, including GM TPI, LT1, GEN III / LS1, LS2, and LS6, 8.1 Vortec, Ford 5.0, 5.8, and DOHC / SOHC Modular 4.6 and 5.4, and Chrysler 5.7-6.1 Hemi. Our 4 and 6 cylinder cams for AMC, Buick, Chrysler, Dodge, Ford, Honda, Jeep, Toyota, Volkswagen and others will build more power than you ever imagined from these smaller mills. Looking for the most horsepower for your hard-earned performance dollar? Look no further than COMP Cams®!

Just about everything comes packed in this box.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2630467318/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/2630467318_1a2c5ac3e4.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>

All neatly packed.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2629648651/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2629648651_728b238c4b.jpg" width="500" height="360" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>

This is a Cam


Pontiac 265-455 Xtreme Energy XR264HR Cam

HYDRAULIC ROLLER: Daily driver, strong torque, smooth idle.

Specs (http://www.compcams.com/Cam_Specs/CamDetails.aspx?csid=1215&sb=2)

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2629649865/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/2629649865_91e4e4d8db.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>

You can see this is machined to exact specifications.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2629650039/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3087/2629650039_fdedc403f0.jpg" width="354" height="500" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>

The cam is what controls the duration and movement of the valves.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2629650169/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/2629650169_2495bcac1e.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>


This kit had Pro Magnum™ Hydraulic Roller Lifters

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2630467730/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/2630467730_18a408d8f3.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2629649007/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/2629649007_2c59bd1714.jpg" width="467" height="500" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>


Springs

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2630468100/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2630468100_a27904c6d5.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2629649415/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2629649415_968f924154.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>


Magnum Rocker Arms (These weren't in the kit)

Pontiac V8 Magnum Roller Rockers (http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CC&Product_Code=1452-16&Category_Code=PontiacRA)



The World’s Best High Performance Street Rocker Arms
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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2630469494/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2630469494_eacc4ed781.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2630469632/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/2630469632_c562bf7287.jpg" width="348" height="500" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>


Even had Pontiac Magnum Timing Set

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2629649655/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2629649655_81dc13e12c.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>


And one of these. Pontiac Dist. Gear

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2630469256/" title="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/2630469256_f72dd5f3e4.jpg" width="364" height="500" alt="Comp Cam Kit Pontiac 400" /></a>

[WNYresident]

http://pypesexhaust.com/%21pypes.gif

They are on the way.....

This is what it will look like installed in a 1970 GTO (http://pypesexhaust.com/gallery25.html)

except there we are using

ceramic coated headers (http://www.dougthorleyheaders.com/about/)

Below is an example. Don't know which engine these are for but this gives you an idea what headers are.

http://images.autoanything.com/images/products/rell/headers/doug_thorley_headers_tri_y_single_502Y-O.jpg


They help to disperse heat.

[WNYresident]

They just came in yesterday!

Doug Pontiac 400 headers.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2654010009/" title="Doug Pontiac Headers by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2654010009_ec89259c1d.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Doug Pontiac Headers" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2654015229/" title="Doug Pontiac Headers by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/2654015229_daf8f179f9.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Doug Pontiac Headers" /></a>

I'm not happy with the photos. They gotta be redone....

[WNYresident]

I can't wait....

http://pysales.com/movies/69gto-inqtrmile-3pypes-racepro.wmv

[WNYresident]

Color time...

what do we all think about a color like graphite gun metal grey with either a black interior/top or same color with a light gray interior top....

[MarkLV]

Color time...

what do we all think about a color like graphite gun metal grey with either a black interior/top or same color with a light gray interior top....


Are you going with GM original colors? What did they offer in 1970? I love that bright hugger orange, but dont know if it's circa 1970 or not.

Just for kicks, here is a picture of one I snapped down in Busti, NY a couple weekends ago. Rolling chassis for $5,000, no motor or tranny!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/imadazhell/P9270005.jpg

[WNYresident]

Yep the color is in the 1970's pontiac paint book. Thats what we are using for color choices.

A few people think a yellow or orbit orange would be a bit much.

[MarkLV]

Yep the color is in the 1970's pontiac paint book. Thats what we are using for color choices.

A few people think a yellow or orbit orange would be a bit much.

what were all the color options?

[WNYresident]

I'll get the chart this weekend and scan them in.

There were quite a few... The complete interior will be redone so it all matches.

I could go back the original gold but that would be blau

[Pete Moss]

Go to Buffalo City Court and file a small claims for $5,000. Even if the jerk comes up with reasons to charge you a certain amount of money, you should be able to win $5,000.

Report him to the BBB

[WNYresident]

He's driving truck now I think. That's all in the past now.... time to move on.

Taking money is one thing but he didn't have to destroy the car in the process.

Karma will always bite you in the ass.

[WNYresident]

This ebay auction ends in a few minutes (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1970-Pontiac-GTO-Red-Convertible-Match-PHS_W0QQitemZ130261751468QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Trucks QQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130261751468&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1308&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)


1970 convertible currently at about $27,500 and the reserve isn't met yet. Red isn't all that bad but not with a red interior. No contrast.

I could just do it in a dark primer and make it look like a Mad Max car :)

[anyones neighbor]

What would you guys do?
Not sure what I'D do but I had a BRAND NEW 1966 GTO, 4 on the floor, bright red. WORST car I/WE ever had. I drove it to FL and used TWELVE quarts of oil coming back. Pretty car though.

[anyones neighbor]

Res, try craigslist. It's free.

[WNYresident]

Craigs list for what? To pick a color? :)

I'm not selling the car... I was seeing what they were going for on ebay....

[Smiley]

Not sure what I'D do but I had a BRAND NEW 1966 GTO, 4 on the floor, bright red. WORST car I/WE ever had. I drove it to FL and used TWELVE quarts of oil coming back. Pretty car though.

I used to have a 1964 Chev Pick-up 1/2 ton and drove that to California and back (back in the 1970's). I would pull into the gas stations and say check the gas and fill up the oil. (lol) I know what you mean, they sure do look good.

[Effigy]

I could just do it in a dark primer and make it look like a Mad Max car :)

Those were Australian Fords, IIRC.

[WNYresident]

So what do we think of this color:

This is a camero sprayed in the color we are thinking about. Charcoal gray interior with black dash....and a Black top.

Ken painted the car below several years ago...

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3080570193/" title="Camero by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/3080570193_1036d8263e.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Camero" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3081408274/" title="Camero by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/3081408274_73aacebf9e.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Camero" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3081408484/" title="Camero by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/3081408484_c9f978c77d.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Camero" /></a>


Remember we started with this:


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2617502096/" title="1970 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2617502096_e2c3008bdd.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="1970 pontiac GTO" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1621878670/" title="Pontiac 400 Engine by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2054/1621878670_e1709bb16a.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac 400 Engine" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1619368403/" title="Rebuilt Pontiac 400 Engine by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/1619368403_ff0dc582a1.jpg" width="424" height="500" alt="Rebuilt Pontiac 400 Engine" /></a>


I'm glad gasoline prices dropped some

[Surfing USA]

This chart (http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1970-pontiac-pg01.jpg) displays the original colors from 1970.

[WNYresident]

2059 sort of.

I'll paint it any color. Doesn't have to be on the chart.

[WNYresident]

We did hit a snag with the headers. They were not welded properly and there was a hole.. They are sending a new one.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2999597903/" title="Pontiac Headers D590C by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2999597903_6f1a71a2b3.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Pontiac Headers D590C" /></a>

[Surfing USA]

2059 sort of.

I'll paint it any color. Doesn't have to be on the chart.I forgot you weren't going to "show" it.

[WNYresident]

I forgot you weren't going to "show" it.

NO we are going to drive it :)

Zoom Zoom

[WNYresident]

We did hit a snag with the headers. They were not welded properly and there was a hole.. They are sending a new one.



I would never buy an exhaust from the people I did. It took over 2 months to get a replacement header from the people who actually make it.

All I can say about the company working on my car is wow. They know how to build a car.

[WNYresident]

Well that last group of parts were dropped off at his place of business in lancaster..

Check this out..

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3260597177/" title="70 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3333/3260597177_767f6e46f5.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="70 pontiac GTO" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3260597467/" title="70 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3469/3260597467_8bbdb3f6ea.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="70 pontiac GTO" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3261428368/" title="70 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/3261428368_a8bb215c3d.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="70 pontiac GTO" /></a>

[WNYresident]

He even polished up the stainless steel exhaust

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3261426734/" title="70 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3348/3261426734_9659e81afe.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="70 pontiac GTO" /></a>

The new header came in and they were able to start bolting everything together.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3260599543/" title="70 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3303/3260599543_1fdde5d00d.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="70 pontiac GTO" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3260598805/" title="70 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3462/3260598805_fa63f76fec.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="70 pontiac GTO" /></a>

[WNYresident]

While I was there I spotted another car he's working on..

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3260595889/" title="corvette by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3419/3260595889_9be5ecf0e3.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="corvette" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3261423260/" title="corvette by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3399/3261423260_674d6cf87c.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="corvette" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3261423050/" title="corvette by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3261423050_7d7c7a4ec4.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="corvette" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3260596971/" title="corvette by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3360/3260596971_c17b5c77cc.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="corvette" /></a>

[Surfing USA]

Looks like a 1963 Stingray. :)

[Surfing USA]

http://www.snuffledopple.com/images/90108.jpg

[Smiley]

Looks like a 1963 Stingray. :)

Thats exactly what it is... Hey res, I really like the cross connector for the exhaust.

[WNYresident]

Thats exactly what it is... Hey res, I really like the cross connector for the exhaust.

I was told it helps with exhaust flow. I have to get the old drive shaft down to www.dennysdriveshaft.com (http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/). He ships products all over the USA and globally. What the name of the game again? PULL CASH FLOW INTO THE COMMUNITY.

They produce Aluminum Driveshafts (http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com)



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http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/img/products/1217343220_HeavyDuty3.5inchDriveshaftComplete1330S eries_13303.52.jpg

[Smiley]

I hear nothing but good things about those shafts.

[WNYresident]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/carroll/bal-md.fastcar07feb07,0,2315880.story?page=1

Here's a 63 for ya.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2009-02/44936049.jpg

[Smiley]

Frony looks awesome..... Got a view of the back end? I LOVE the 63

[Smiley]

went to the Auto show today... they had 1 vette there... the price...$114,000

[Smiley]

The only other car that came close was a Jag for $105,000

[gorja]

Originally post by WNYResident:
Well that last group of parts were dropped off at his place of business in lancaster..


Rez, does that mean your Goat will be done in this decade?;)

[WNYresident]

Rez, does that mean your Goat will be done in this decade?;)

Depending on cash flow goes it will be done this summer. They start the engine up next week or so. The parts I dropped off were interior parts, front assembly stuff, wiring harness stuff etc...

I should have started a save the GTO fund.

[Surfing USA]

Depending on cash flow goes it will be done this summer. They start the engine up next week or so. The parts I dropped off were interior parts, front assembly stuff, wiring harness stuff etc...

I should have started a save the GTO fund.If it's not too personal of a question, have you done any calculations as to how much this project will have cost you upon completion?

[WNYresident]

If it's not too personal of a question, have you done any calculations as to how much this project will have cost you upon completion?

I don't want to. I got rather screwed the first time around on the car. I know that was like 12000 or so completely pissed away. It's bad enough Sloan collision (Chris) took the money but they didn't have to ruin the car. I'm not counting that money as the restoration money. That was just a screwing.

I have the receipts but haven't totaled it up. For the most part my tax returns go into the "Car fund"... My mom helped some with the engine. She would like to see it done before she's dead.

Ball park

about $7500 or so in the engine...machine work/cam kit/carb,electronic distibutor, balancing, parts etc

about $7500 in body/frame work/frame assembly/parts (bushings/bearings/shocks/tubes)/skim coat/repair

about $1000 in the transmission...

about $750 in the rear end...new posi/labor to install

about $1100 in the exhaust...

about $3500 for a rear clip for parts...

the brakes were given to me by stainless steel brakes in lancaster

I still need a gas tank, rims, tires, full interior, My glass is ok, bumper needs re-chroming , radiator because the idiot who had the car the first time popped a 3" hole threw my original one, top, odds and ends parts.

Oh they want me to find the back spoiler. I don't need it but they think it would be cool. that's probably about a grand.

I know for the most part I can sell the car and get all my money back out. I just have to get it done.

[WNYresident]

I should get a personalize license plate with just

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3265147458/" title="license plate by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1222/3265147458_1fd223b244_o.jpg" width="262" height="142" alt="license plate" /></a>

[buffy]

I don't want to. I got rather screwed the first time around on the car. I know that was like 12000 or so completely pissed away. It's bad enough Sloan collision (Chris) took the money but they didn't have to ruin the car. I'm not counting that money as the restoration money. That was just a screwing.
is that a typo, $12000? YOu don't mean Twelve thousand dollars?

[therising]

I feel so boring, because, since the inception of this thread, I bought, and paid off, a brand new car. And, the only thing I now have to show for it is a two-year old car that is currently covered with salt.

[WNYresident]

is that a typo, $12000? YOu don't mean Twelve thousand dollars?

Yes about $12,000 and they caused more damage to the car. My fault for not baby sitting the car as work was being done. I was in shock when they basically dropped the car off in the parking lot. I was like there is no way this is my car...but it was. I am not counting the $12,000 in the car. There wasn't $12,000 worth of anything done to the car by Sloan Collision which then turned into AJ auto or something like that on Broadway hear Halstead. Chris now drives truck. He was the owner of the business that ruined the car.

[WNYresident]

We are getting closer

The body is on a jig to easily flip it around

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3404746240/" title="1970 GTO Body by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3404746240_60f535e493.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Body" /></a>


All the seams were sealed

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3403936247/" title="1970 GTO Body by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3636/3403936247_d49e6e5a41.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Body" /></a>

Then a chip guard was applied

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3404746438/" title="1970 GTO Body by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/3404746438_a798ac24d0.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Body" /></a>

Then finally painted in the proper factory black

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3403936401/" title="1970 GTO Body by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3454/3403936401_0075c956d7.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Body" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3404746546/" title="1970 GTO Body by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3404746546_820f31ea03.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Body" /></a>

[sharky]

Those were Australian Fords, IIRC.

the cop cars were various models of Ford Falcons
I'd love to have one
but there were a variety of makes used through out the 3 movies

and I hate this thread. I've already been having urges to find some kind of muscle or semi muscle car and this thread isn't helping ;)

[Smiley]

Looking good res. Pretty soon you will be cruising. Long wait, but will be worth it. Question: Are you going to design put any of your decals on it?

[LaNdReW]

Rotisserie.

Your doing it right!

[WNYresident]

I'm not doing it, Areo Restoration is doing it. They do insurance work besides restoration work. I really would recommend them to anyone. They did work on the Toyota that came out like new. There is a whole bunch of people who have helped along the way.



Remember what they started with.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/2617502096/" title="1970 pontiac GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2617502096_e2c3008bdd.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="1970 pontiac GTO" /></a>




The guys at napa on Wherle did a very nice job on the engine too.

I mean check this out.

Before:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1621878670/" title="Pontiac 400 Engine by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2054/1621878670_e1709bb16a.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac 400 Engine" /></a>


After:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/1619368403/" title="Rebuilt Pontiac 400 Engine by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/1619368403_ff0dc582a1.jpg" width="424" height="500" alt="Rebuilt Pontiac 400 Engine" /></a>


I know the place that is going to do the glass work.. Frontier Auto Glass.

Gotta find someone who is rather good for the interior and top.

I simply can't believe it's all coming shaping up into a car. It's been years.

[WNYresident]

There were a few pieces that were toast like the rear valance I think you call it. Where the chrome dual exhaust tips go threw.

The got one from a 70 lemans that had to be modified to match the original.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3403936091/" title="1970 GTO Body by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3553/3403936091_931332df95.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Body" /></a>

Almost done

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3403936165/" title="1970 GTO Body by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/3403936165_8a8c0c8a53.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO Body" /></a>

They have some parts that are being recreated but they don't line up like the originals.

[WNYresident]

Looks like the body is being mounted to the frame...


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3408465656/" title="1970 Pontiac GTO restoration by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3329/3408465656_ca834d3d47.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 Pontiac GTO restoration" /></a>

It's cool seeing it slowly all come together.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3407657817/" title="1970 Pontiac GTO restoration by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3407657817_6c94c21963_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="1970 Pontiac GTO restoration" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3408465874/" title="1970 Pontiac GTO restoration by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3408465874_44a61723c8_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="1970 Pontiac GTO restoration" /></a>

[WNYresident]

I'm glad the price of gas went down some.

The original carburetor was replace with this.

It was recommended

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3405347183/" title="Pontiac Speed Demon Carburator by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3467/3405347183_37c3a0d422.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac Speed Demon Carburator" /></a>

It came boxed with easy to follow instructions.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3406158744/" title="Pontiac Speed Demon Carburator by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3445/3406158744_c555ac6af2.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac Speed Demon Carburator" /></a>

I think the logo on the front of the carb is cool.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3406159344/" title="Pontiac Speed Demon Carburator by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3625/3406159344_0824144e77.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac Speed Demon Carburator" /></a>

Looks like a lot of gasoline can flush in this.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3405349245/" title="Pontiac Speed Demon Carburator by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3405349245_ddaa103538.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pontiac Speed Demon Carburator" /></a>

The group at Napa on Wherle did a cool job.

[FREEDOM ONE]

WNY, I'm good at Qjets if that was the original. I guarantee you'll get 2-3 mpg better with it than the Demon. Rips near as good. Most elegant carb design ever made, imho. But the new one is "shiny". Hope you saved the QJet.

John Salerno over in OP is top notchon tops and interiors and a real stand up guy.

Someday, I'd like to "rotisserie" mine. No time, no money right now.


Yours is going to be super sweet!!!

Aint no droptop but.... Old Red (http://www.chevelles.com/feature/october2000.html)

[WNYresident]

WNY, I'm good at Qjets if that was the original. I guarantee you'll get 2-3 mpg better with it than the Demon. Rips near as good. Most elegant carb design ever made, imho. But the new one is "shiny". Hope you saved the QJet.

I let someone who is into cars pick the engine parts. I still have all the original bolt on parts. Carb, distributor, headers etc. But doesn't that demon car look cool :)

John Salerno over in OP is top notchon tops and interiors and a real stand up guy.

I do have to find someone. We are still going over colors. They are swaying towards a sliver metalic color with black top/interior. It was originally metallic gold. The gold really didn't do anything for me.. not that the silver is doing anything for me either.

Someday, I'd like to "rotisserie" mine. No time, no money right now.


Yours is going to be super sweet!!!

Aint no droptop but.... Old Red (http://www.chevelles.com/feature/october2000.html)

Currently they are fitting all the body parts to see how everything is going to line up before painting. For a LONG time I thought the car was a loss cause. :)

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3419562776/" title="pontiac 70 GTO Body Check by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3419562776_dba73008e4_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="pontiac 70 GTO Body Check" /></a>

[FMD]

Dude, after $12K you should have your head checked and your wife should take away your ability to write checks. seriiously.

No one, just gives out cash, like that with ZERO progress reports.

When I was having my truck fixed, I was at the shop DAILY

[WNYresident]

Dude, after $12K you should have your head checked and your wife should take away your ability to write checks. seriiously.

No one, just gives out cash, like that with ZERO progress reports.

When I was having my truck fixed, I was at the shop DAILY

I was getting reports.. All lies for the most part. The company originally did one car for us before hand which came out great. I didn't feel the need to baby sit every time they said more was done.

Seriously I'm way happy with the work Areo is doing. They do insurance work that is top notch too.

[FREEDOM ONE]

Bein' a working stiff, I stopped by on occasion to keep paying on the bill for the Chevelle, so I could see what was going on. The guys at Fine Line Collision in S.Wales did it. Now I know what a "super straight" car is.

Anyone feel like helping pull a motor? :( Rear seal is leaking. Thought I got it after I turned the Centerforce dual friction clutch disc into black cotton candy. Guess oil impregnated discs don;t quite "cotton" to powershifts at 7200 rpm. :(

Beauty of that Poncho motor, btw, it makes all its grunt below 6000 rpm. Olds and Buicks are the same way.

[WNYresident]

I have an engine stand you can have. I'll probably never use it again.

[WNYresident]

Getting Closer....

Seeing the carb was changed the fuel lines had to be bent...

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3492993300/" title="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3572/3492993300_870f54417d_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400" /></a>


Every original piece is saved.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3492176001/" title="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3384/3492176001_f084e0eff6.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400" /></a>

When you bolt it all together you end up with this:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3492176103/" title="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3588/3492176103_116f38abb1.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400" /></a>

[Smiley]

Dual Feed... WOW! Gotta Luv it :D:D

[WNYresident]

Dual Feed... WOW! Gotta Luv it :D:D

He did something with the gas tank also. I don't know exactly what though. Looks like an outlet was changed.

Before

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3492176309/" title="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3381/3492176309_36693112f9_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400" /></a>

After

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3492176557/" title="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400 by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3492176557_ba665136d1_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Fuel Line Pontiac GTO 400" /></a>

I don't know exactly what they changed or did. Unless the new outlet is larger.

[WNYresident]

Everything is started to get mounted to the frame. Aero Collision is doing an excellent Job. They do insurance work if you you had a fender bender lately. Highly recommend them, I've seen the work they do.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3588659965/" title="1970 GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3329/3588659965_a09e16c306.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO" /></a>

That round hole where the exhaust cross over is where dennysdriveshaft.com drive shaft will mount to.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3589467960/" title="1970 GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/3589467960_51fe6e5b1b.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO" /></a>

I hope gas prices stay down

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3589468036/" title="1970 GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3589468036_c1935743ef.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3588660381/" title="1970 GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3389/3588660381_9d22a7c68e.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 GTO" /></a>

[Smiley]

Res, with toys as great as this is, price of gas is no object. :p;):D Lookin Good. Gonna take me for a ride when it's done?

[WNYresident]

Price is always an object. If I don't sell it when it's done yes you can go for a ride in it.

[WNYresident]

This is what is left from the old radiator. Could not really be used.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3623814540/" title="Radiator for GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/3623814540_e1f7d5e072.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Radiator for GTO" /></a>

Don's Welding on Transit in Depew did a nice job. (716) 683-5649

The original damaged one was a 3 core which they made me up a 4 core with a larger tank. The new radiator will cool the engine much better. It will be painted and installed.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3622994293/" title="Radiator for GTO by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3319/3622994293_6d5f32b7e8.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Radiator for GTO" /></a>

[WNYresident]

Look at this cool way this problem was solved. Custom Dual Exhaust

Originally this car had an exhaust that exited just behind the driver's side door. It exited under the frame and would bottom out.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3631696921/" title="Custom Exhaust System by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2423/3631696921_66bfd32c1b.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Custom Exhaust System" /></a>

Ken at Aero came up with this idea.

The frame was re-enforced and cut away so the new exhaust could pass through. All the bending was done in house.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3632510514/" title="Custom Exhaust System by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/3632510514_5fba13c2db.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Custom Exhaust System" /></a>

The new exhaust will allowed for better flow that the old one.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3631696679/" title="Custom Exhaust System by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3660/3631696679_dfd9f95bb8.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="Custom Exhaust System" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3631697061/" title="Custom Exhaust System by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2472/3631697061_30d09cfb9b.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Custom Exhaust System" /></a>

Isn't that sweet looking

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3632510288/" title="Custom Exhaust System by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3632510288_d0bfc68e84.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Custom Exhaust System" /></a>

Anyone notice what drive shaft (http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com) they used? Can't wait for mine. :)


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/3632510112/" title="Custom Exhaust System by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3364/3632510112_90bf555033.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="Custom Exhaust System" /></a>

[WNYresident]

The engine runs.... I wasn't there but they started it up....

[WNYresident]

Re-Chromed bummer will be back in 2 weeks. Had to go to Canada. I guess there isn't really anyone local who is bumper chromer.

[Frank Broughton]

Awesome Res, I just read the whole thread this morning - what a project! Any ETA on completion? Did you pick a color yet? 2084 looks great (red) that with a black interior would be nice.

One tip, make sure you tighten the oil drain plug when you change the oil for the first time. I had a friend who restored his GTO years ago and he did just that (forgot to tighten it) and the engine was ruined. :eek:

[WNYresident]

Below is the original color of the car except the top was tan not black and the interior is tan. I could live with that color but..........

http://www.cars-on-line.com/34200/70pont34272-5.jpg

http://www.cars-on-line.com/34200/70pont34272-2.jpg



What do you all think about something on this order....

http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2009/11/500x_datonastudiolights.jpg


http://cache-08.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2009/11/500x_datonastudiolights_004.jpg


http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2009/11/500x_datonastudiolights_006.jpg


The paint guys are trying to steer me to a metalic silver but it just doesn't do anything for me.....


Stay with the original color? or pick something more muscle car color?

[Save Us]

Below is the original color of the car except the top was tan not black and the interior is tan. I could live with that color but..........

http://www.cars-on-line.com/34200/70pont34272-5.jpg

http://www.cars-on-line.com/34200/70pont34272-2.jpg



What do you all think about something on this order....

http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2009/11/500x_datonastudiolights.jpg


http://cache-08.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2009/11/500x_datonastudiolights_004.jpg


http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2009/11/500x_datonastudiolights_006.jpg


The paint guys are trying to steer me to a metalic silver but it just doesn't do anything for me.....


Stay with the original color? or pick something more muscle car color?

more muscle car color,,,,orange, black, red

[Smiley]

Res, I agree.... More Muscle Car color. You need to stand out more then the standard color. They could probably do metalic with any color. That would be outstanding! It is really shaping up nicely! Sweet! That exhaust is really unique.

[WNYresident]

They want me to do a metallic silver with black top/interior... but when I look at it, it just looks like grey and there are a lot of silver cars on the road...

Black looks cool but the guys working on the car say it's high maintenance...

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/st/stlouiscarmuseum/Pontiac70GTOblkJ1.jpg

[Frank Broughton]

As I said back in November: "2084 looks great (red) that with a black interior would be nice."

[Smiley]

I like black, but it shows everything. Gold/Bronze metalic is good, Red metalic? Maybe some shades of red is ok. Blue is good too. I know... you would have to change the color of the interior, but you could do a neutral color interior.

[WNYresident]

The interior will be all new so that won't be an issue. The guy who had the car originally really hosed it.

[WNYresident]

Pypes Exhaust Systems 2.5” to dual 2.5” Slip-Fit Polished Stainless Splitters

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5072378770/" title="GTO Tail Pipe Splitters Exhaust by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/5072378770_ce8c82614b.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="GTO Tail Pipe Splitters Exhaust" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5071777903/" title="GTO Tail Pipe Splitters Exhaust by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/5071777903_3eb7738fc6.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="GTO Tail Pipe Splitters Exhaust" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5071777207/" title="GTO Tail Pipe Splitters Exhaust by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5071777207_16b65d1fe0.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="GTO Tail Pipe Splitters Exhaust" /></a>

[CheektowagaFan]

Either you have a really S HITTY Mechanic or your Taxes were to high to do all at 1 time............



WTF Ill be retired before your done. I mean come on its only been going atleast since March of 2006!

[WNYresident]

I get the discounted labor rate if they work on it between the better paying jobs. Finding some parts reasonably priced was way harder than I thought it would be.

Plus my property taxes did go up quite a but since we purchased the house. Gotta live within your means. Now it would be nice if local governments/state government would do the same.

[FMD]

Gotta live within your means. Now it would be nice if local governments/state government would do the same.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:

you can delete this if you want but I am gonna say it so you see it Res.

**** THAT! live with in your means? inflation, lower wages, less work, higher prices, more taxes... live within your means is a bull**** comment made by a mega billionaire that feels the rest of the country, makes too much, has to much and consumes too much.

[WNYresident]

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5086826176/" title="Rechromed 1970 GTO Bumper by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4085/5086826176_2ceda268cc.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="Rechromed 1970 GTO Bumper" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5086231719/" title="Rechromed 1970 GTO Bumper by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/5086231719_5f2a9f6b31.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="Rechromed 1970 GTO Bumper" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5086827126/" title="Rechromed 1970 GTO Bumper by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5086827126_a2fb002dfb.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Rechromed 1970 GTO Bumper" /></a>

[Frank Broughton]

awesome!!!!!

[WNYresident]

Here is the company that did it.

http://www.custom-chrome.com/media/cccbanner.gif

Antique Auto, Marine, & Motorcycle Specialists

http://www.custom-chrome.com/


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They have a drop off point at 1051 Clinton Street. This way you don't have to worry about shipping it to Canada. Aero Restorationin Lancaster is picky with the work they do. It came out great.

[granpabob]

why go with an old mans silver. if you want the old muscle car look why not go for corn flake sized metal flakes under a candied royal blue or candy apple red. today yellows and green are hot but not in the late 60's early 70's muscle era. black is always good and since this is your baby I suppose washing the dust off won't be a problem. so dont let up keep bother you

[WNYresident]

Post 225 is the original color of the car out of the factory.

I'm still stuck on the color or just put it back to what it was.

Black is so cooling looking but everyone says it shows every speck and will show rub marks if you whip it down with a dry towel etc...

[Riven37]

First, I would kick the guys A$$ for the mess he made of my car. Then I would sue his A$$. Then I would utterly destroy his business to the point he's out of business.

An all original 1970 GTO mint condition goes for $ 40, 000 + again depends on the car's condition having all original part and such. It is a classic car, I know, I had one. On the low end with some minor part changes it may bring in $20,000 + again based on the car's condition classification.



Ok your not going to believe this.

Years ago I had a collision shop ask to restore a car for me. They worked on another car previously and it turned out nice. Took them a while but the job was great.

The car had a drunk driver hit the back end so we decided to have it restored for a fun summer car. The business owner would stop down occasionally and pick up a check as work proceeded. We were happy with the first car they did so I never stopped to monitor their progress. I sent other clients to his company and they all seemed satisfied with what they got.

Well one day while sitting in my office the collision shop's flatbed rolls in and drops the car off in the middle of my parking lot. The picture is EXACTLY what they dropped off a few years later and after collecting about $12,000 bucks. He destroyed my car. I should of sued him but the few lawyers I talked to all wanted a few $1000 bucks up front to even start something up. I could of went to small claims to get what ever they allowed but it seem not worth the hassle.

I'm thinking of making a webpage with about 20 photo's of exactly what he dropped off, the acutal checks that were paid to his company and his name up in bright red letters. I will not slander the man. All I'll do is show everyone what he charged about $12,000 to do.

It was an all original 70 gto convertible.

What would you guys do?

[WNYresident]

First, I would kick the guys A$$ for the mess he made of my car. Then I would sue his A$$. Then I would utterly destroy his business to the point he's out of business.

An all original 1970 GTO mint condition goes for $ 40, 000 + again depends on the car's condition having all original part and such. It is a classic car, I know, I had one. On the low end with some minor part changes it may bring in $20,000 + again based on the car's condition classification.

All matching numbers bought from the original owner.

He did so much damage to the car I decided if we were going to restore it I wanted it modernized a touch.

Only modifications were bolt-ons. IE: updated brakes from stainless steel brakes in WNY, engine upgrades like electronic ignition. The old parts are neatly packed in plastic storage crates.

Zoom Zoom.... :)

[WNYresident]

Color is gonna be the original gold with either black top/interior.... or tan top/interior....

[WNYresident]

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5507418636/" title="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5055/5507418636_0cdcf9907b.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars" /></a>

Some awesome cars

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5506816865/" title="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5055/5506816865_e20ea28ba8.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5507417262/" title="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5507417262_59605685d7.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5506800943/" title="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5174/5506800943_c273f8e943.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars" /></a>

[WNYresident]

And check this guy out

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5507396344/" title="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5256/5507396344_e48599932a.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="Buffalo Classic Cars Muscle Cars" /></a>

[WNYresident]

These are the people who destroyed my car.

It led to the arrest of 11 people people. That was the guy in the truck

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5863030735/" title="AJ Auto Sales by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5863030735_4fbc60c78d_z.jpg" width="640" height="425" alt="AJ Auto Sales"></a>

Read this weeks Cheektowaga Bee.


AJ Auto Sales on Broadway in Sloan was the site of a major drug raid by the FBI Safe Streets Task Force on Friday.


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/5863567686/" title="karma by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/5863567686_4391ddcc6a_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="karma"></a>


I hope they all become Vaseline Stations in prison if you get my drift.

[Tyrant]

You mean there's lowlifes in Sloan?
C'mon.
Next you'll tell me there are idiots in Lovejoy.

[speaker]

Don't blame you at all, res, for the way you feel. They thought you wouldn't do a thing and I hope they get everything they deserve.:mad:

[WNYresident]

Seeing spring is here.....

1970 GTO Trunk Deck/Lid

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/7000632787/" title="1970 Pontiac GTO trunk lid by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7119/7000632787_d19182f721.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 Pontiac GTO trunk lid"></a>

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1970 GTO Pontiac Doors

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/7000632617/" title="1970 Pontiac GTO doors by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6117/7000632617_65ef9ff8cb.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 Pontiac GTO doors"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyolm/6854512706/" title="1970 Pontiac GTO doors by tonyolm, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6237/6854512706_680dd019f1.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="1970 Pontiac GTO doors"></a>

[gorja]

Saturday, March 24 will be 6 years since you started this thread. Will it be finished soon?

[ILOVEDNY]

Now he will have to conform to the new EPA standards.
55 MPG Res.
Perhaps you should redesign for an electric retrofit.