View Full Version : A paragraph from a story on Buffalo.com
WNYresident
November 14th, 2003, 12:14 PM
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Union contracts and challenges make discipline cumbersome, and because of union opposition, supervisors sometimes are in the uncomfortable position of reporting sick-time abuses of people working in the same union as they are, city officials said.
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Do the people in question such as the superivisors work for the residents of buffalo or the Unions. Same union or not you don't look the other way.
LAsurvivor
November 14th, 2003, 01:48 PM
Of course you are right, but there is a problem with the system.
As a union member, you can't (or won't) impose discipline that might be viewed as in violation of the contract. The point is, the supervisor shouldn't be in the union, or at least not in the same one. Steps should be taken to remove the supervisors from the bargaining unit, and there are mechanisms in place under the Taylor Law for doing so. Have to lay blame with upper management on this one.
citymouse
November 14th, 2003, 05:13 PM
They are passing the buck. Supervisors such as foreman who fill out a daily sign in sheet have to list an employee as being of sick. The sheet is then reviewed and signed by a non-union supervisor. The low level union supervisor did his job and showed the guy off sick. What else is he supposed to do? It's up to the city to do the rest. They confirm or deny the sick pay. They also are responsible for any required disicpline.
The union has repeatdley told these guys in thier news letters"Don't abuse your sick time, it's something in which you are wrong and we can't defend you for" They are obligated to go along to any hearing to represent the guy but they can't argue if the proof is there, and don't try to.
LAsurvivor
November 16th, 2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by LAsurvivor
Have to lay blame with upper management on this one. [/B]
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