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WNYresident
October 28th, 2003, 09:14 PM
Another interesting item from www.politicswny.com
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“They say we’re not doing anything,” Gabryszak
complains. “But, what about the fact that we’ve
attracted a developer who is going to build our new
golf course? We are offering the people of Cheektowaga
something more than just a lot of complaints.”

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Better not be helped with the residents tax money. A lot of us don't play golf and don't need to subsidize the building of the course. This includes property tax incentives, they can pay for the services you decid to spend money on like everyone else.

now if there's a real developer that will use thier money to make thier profit and not steal ours through incentives and tax breaks all the luck to you in your venture. Those are the type of people we want building in any town in WNY specially the heart of buffalo.

joehajduk
November 15th, 2003, 01:05 PM
Lets talk facts.... Over two years ago at a meeting of the William Street Taxpayers Association In an open forum I suggested to Gabryszak to seek local investors for the Golf Course project. I went on to name Sam Tadio, Ralph Fudoli, Pat Cipola and Russ Salvatore. Within a week he approached Tadio and things got under way. I'm glad that Gabby does listen to things I say. The golf course could not be built as originally designed because Gabby allowed the wetlands to expand far beyond the point of acceptance to the Army Corp of Engineers. Paul Takasz ram rodded a bill to allow the town to give Tadio a large part of the Reihm Rd. Park for use for the Golf course. Otherwise the course could not have been built. The taxpayers are now and will be paying for this project for many years to come.

WNYresident
November 15th, 2003, 01:12 PM
And how is my money going to pay for this golf course? Through incentives? Is the town giving money directly to the developer? Explain how for many years this is going to cost cost cheektwaga residents money.

joehajduk
November 15th, 2003, 01:42 PM
First the taxpayers lost valuable parkland to the developer, second drainage and saniatry systems will need to be built, third if you look at the lease, the taxpayers will not recover the millions the town has spent to acquire this land.

WNYresident
November 15th, 2003, 01:52 PM
Now why would the supervisor of any town give away land paid for by the taxpayer? And does a golf course pay property taxes? Any business venture has to cover the cost of having themselves in the town. Do the residents get a cut of all profits if we paid for the land in the first place?

What would be the easiest way to find out all the money in total we the residents have invested so far into the golf course. I for one do now like my money invested unwisely. Plus there no reason to give anything a way to any developer. If they are trying to profit from the venture then let them risk all thier own money.

A golf course would be a nice addition to the town but not if it's going to cost us money. now if we trhe residents are going this golf course to help LOWER are taxes in the town, lets make sure the deal is good. Never trust anyone. There's a lot of people that don't play golf so there's no reason for those people to subsidize a golf course. :)

Who are the main players in this golf course?

Who is the expert representing the residents in this business venture? Just because one has gotten elected doens't make them experts in gold courses. :)


Look at the business venture Amherst politicians started with the pepsi center. Talk about residents getting boned. Questionable building cost and over $1,000,000 perhaps spent on it every year. We don't need that.

joehajduk
November 15th, 2003, 02:00 PM
For the last year or so I have been addressing your questions to the tee. The problem is that no one was listening. Maybe because Gabby and Good ole Boys insist I'm just a trouble maker not allowing them to do business as usual. All of your very legitimate questions can be answered by submitting an appropriate Freedom of Informatin to the Town Clerk. Compare that response to the things I have been disclosing over the past year or so. No need to say thanks...