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December 21st, 2005, 01:06 AM
NEW TECHNOLOGY ?? THAT SCARES POLITICIANS ?
THAT GIVES SOME NSA EMPLOYEES THE ..."CREEPS" & "PISSES THEM OFF ??
The wiring tapping is ......ONLY FOR "INTERNATIONAL" CALLS
- SO "HOW" & "WHO" COULD BENEFIT FROM UNCONTROLLED WIRETAPPING - IF IT'S SUPPOSEDLY - JUST FOR INTERNATIONAL CALLS ??
As they repeatedly keep saying....
"it's just for the good of Americans". It's for "....terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, terrori$m, te$$$$ism, t$$$$r$$$$m, $$$$$$$$$$$,.."
New Tech Behind NSA Snoop Case?
A few current and former signals intelligence guys have been checking in since this NSA domestic spying story broke. Their reactions range between midly creeped out and completely pissed off.
All of the sigint specialists emphasized repeatedly that keeping tabs on Americans is way beyond the bounds of what they ordinarily do -- no matter what the conspiracy crowd may think.
"It's drilled into you from minute one that you should not ever, ever, ever, under any ******* circumstances turn this massive apparatus on an American citizen," one source says. "You do a lot of weird ****. But at least you don't **** with your own people."
"So maybe the NSA wiretaps were using a new kind of capability; one that terror suspects might not have know about; one that might have even made the FISA court uncomfortable, somehow."
"A former sigint type -- who also talked to Ryan, apparently -- suggests a different technological approach: the NSA "may have compromised a hardware manufacturer -- say Motorola or a satellite phone manufacturer, a telecom carrier or a satellite(s)."
EVER HEAR OF THE ...."CARLYLE GROUP" ??
NO? ....."Well, once or twice" you say I WONDER WHY.
"Elsewhere, few have even heard of it. This is exactly the way CARLYLE likes it."
"Our mission is to be the premier GLOBAL private equity firm...."
THEY VIRTUALLY OWN ANYTHING & EVERYTHING THAT MAKES BIG, I MEAN "VERY BIG", BIG MONEY. ALL OVER THE WORLD, ....."INTERNATIONALLY", .....EVERYWHERE.
YET, HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU "EVER" HEAR ABOUT THIS "GLOBAL" FIRM WORTH MEGA BILLIONS ON ANY MAINSTREAM MEDIA OUTLETS?? NEVER? EXCEPT FOR THE INTERNET?
December 21st, 2005, 01:08 AM
Here's where the "premier global private equity firm", run by very high profile politicians, ex-politicians, military personal, ex-military personal, and Saudis, etc., who get HUGE tax breaks, ....invest their money.
I'm willing to bet, "huge amounts" of tax dollars fund it, .....someway or other.
Insurance Concern in China to Sell 25% Stake to CARLYLE
December 20, 2005
SHANGHAI, Dec. 19 - In one of the largest private equity deals ever done in China, the CARLYLE Group, the global private equity firm, has agreed to invest $410 million for a minority stake in the China Pacific Life Insurance Company.
The CARLYLE Group said Monday it would buy a 25 percent stake in China Pacific Life, the country's third-largest life insurance company after the China Life Insurance Company and Ping An Insurance, both of which are publicly listed in Hong Kong and the United States. The deal gives CARLYLE a foothold in the world's fastest-growing life insurance market, where income from life insurance premiums has already reached $40 billion a year.
This is the second major deal in China in recent months for the CARLYLE Group, which acquired an 85 percent stake in the Xugong Group Construction Machinery Company in October for $375 million. That deal marked one of the first times a foreign company had ever engaged in a direct buyout of a Chinese state-owned company.
CARLYLE Group buys stake in Chinese insurer
DECEMBER 19, 2005
China Pacific Life was founded only three years ago in Shanghai, but the company already has more than 20,000 employees, $3 billion in revenue and 11 percent of the life insurance market. Together, the three life insurers command about 80 percent of the marketplace.
And Pramerica Financial, a unit of Prudential Financial, one of the largest life insurance companies in the United States, said it would form a strategic alliance with CARLYLE to improve the business and bolster the fortunes of China Pacific.
CARLYLE had been pressing to complete the two major deals for some time but has faced repeated delays and bureaucratic obstacles as it seeks to invest more than $1 billion in China by 2006.
The investment in China Pacific, which is based in Shanghai, is part of a flood of private equity and venture capital investments that are now rushing into China, in hopes of big returns in this country's fast-growing but still highly inefficient economy.
Some of the world's biggest private equity and venture capital firms, like CARLYLE, Warburg Pincus, Accel Partners, IDG, Intel Capital, Doll Capital and Hambrecht & Quist Asia Pacific, have been seeking large investments in technology, health care and other booming sectors.
Private Equity Pours Into India
A lucrative Warburg Pincus deal sends a signal to other firms: There's big money to be made in India
Private equity investors from around the world are increasing their bets on Indian corporates or making new ones. That includes big-name U.S. firms like Blackstone Group, CARLYLE Group and General Atlantic Partners, and Britain's Actis Partners. Local firms such as ICICI Venture Funds Management Ltd. and Kotak are also stepping up investments. In 2004 these firms poured an estimated $1.3 billion into private equity deals in equity in India, according to Asian Venture Capital Journal.
December 01, 2005
CARLYLE/Riverstone and Goldman Sachs to Invest $500 Million in Cobalt International Energy, a New Oil & Gas Exploration and Production Company;
December 21st, 2005, 01:12 AM
THE CARLYLE GROUP
Carlyle invests in buyouts, real estate, leveraged finance and venture capital in North America, Europe and Asia, focusing on aerospace & defense, automotive & transportation, consumer & retail, energy & power, healthcare, industrial, technology & business services and telecommunications & media. Since 1987, the firm has invested $14.9 billion. The Carlyle Group employs more than 600 people in offices in 14 countries.
The Carlyle Group is one of the world’s largest private equity firms, with more than $34.9 billion under management. With 37 funds across four investment disciplines (buyouts, venture capital, real estate and leveraged finance), Carlyle combines global vision with local insight, relying on a top-flight team of more than 330 investment professionals operating out of offices in 14 countries to uncover superior opportunities in North America, Europe and Asia.
While open to opportunities wherever they can be found, Carlyle focuses on sectors in which it has demonstrated expertise: aerospace & defense, automotive & transportation, consumer & retail, energy & power, healthcare, industrial, real estate, technology & business services and telecommunications & media.
In a world awash with information, insight is often in short supply. Carlyle’s edge is its ability to leverage the local insight of its investment professionals, collaborating across the firms’ investment disciplines from deal sourcing and due diligence through portfolio company development. The result: a broader view of potential investment opportunities and deeper level of expertise, creating value for Carlyle portfolio companies that translates into superior returns for Carlyle investors.
Carlyle’s team of investment professionals includes 145 M.B.A.s, 23 J.D.s and 14 Ph.D./M.D.s from many of the world’s most prestigious universities.
Carlyle’s conservative investment philosophy and disciplined investment process has generated extraordinary returns for its investors. Since its founding in 1987, the firm has invested $14.9 billion in 439 transactions.
More than 800 investors from 55 countries entrust Carlyle with their capital and their reputations. As one means of aligning its own interests with those of its Limited Partner investors, Carlyle has committed more than $1.2 billion of its own capital to its funds.
Our mission is to be the premier global private equity firm, leveraging the insight of Carlyle's team of investment professionals to generate extraordinary returns across a range of investment choices, while maintaining our good name and the good name of our investors.
"What is remarkable about these companies, is that they have people on their payroll from American politics and the military."
"The Carlyle Group is a private investment bank which doesn't come to the publics attention very often but it is one of the biggest American (ed: USA) investors of the defense industry, telecom, property and financial services."
The ex-presidents' club
It is hard to imagine an address closer to the heart of American power. The offices of the Carlyle Group are on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC, midway between the White House and the Capitol building, and within a stone's throw of the headquarters of the FBI and numerous government departments. The address reflects Carlyle's position at the very centre of the Washington establishment, but amid the frenetic politicking that has occupied the higher reaches of that world in recent weeks, few have paid it much attention.
Elsewhere, few have even heard of it. This is exactly the way CARLYLE likes it.
For 14 years now, with almost no publicity, the company has been signing up an impressive list of former politicians - including the first President Bush and his secretary of state, James Baker; John Major; one-time World Bank treasurer Afsaneh Masheyekhi and several south-east Asian powerbrokers - and using their contacts and influence to promote the group. Among the companies CARLYLE owns are those which make equipment, vehicles and munitions for the US military.......
Making a mint inside "the iron triangle" of defense, government and industry.
The Bush administration isn't afraid to mix business and politics, and no other firm embodies that penchant better than the CARLYLE Group. Walking that fine line is what CARLYLE does best. We may not see Osama bin Laden's brothers at CARLYLE'S investor conferences any more, but business will go on as usual for the biggest old boys network around. As Mr. Snow puts it, "CARLYLE will always have to defend itself and will never be able to convince certain people that they aren't capable of forging murky backroom deals.
George Bush's father does profit when the CARLYLE Group profits, but to make the leap that the president would base decisions on that is to say that the president is corrupt."
HOW THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION STEALS FROM THE US PEOPLE (and the world)
There's no longer any countervailing power in Washington.
Business is in complete control of the machinery of government.
Robert Reich, former US Secretary of Labour
The Big Guys Work For The CARLYLE Group
What exactly does it do?
While most of the conspiracy theories are amusingly overblown, this is a firm that's been built on the backs of Bush and other big shots who have lent CARLYLE their names, their golden networks of friends in high places, and their insights into how government works.
Rubenstein started recruiting Kennard to be a managing director in CARLYLE'S telecom group as soon as he left the commission last year, and ultimately won out over lots of other bidders. He was quite a catch. Kennard knows everyone who's anyone in telecom and has extensive contacts at regulatory agencies around the world. Could telecom be CARLYLE'S new defense?
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