More Hillary

[LHardy]

Monday, Nov. 21, 2005 4:06 p.m. EST
Sen. Hillary Clinton's Bill Would 'Buy' Puerto Rican Votes with Tax Refunds

In what critics could likely call a "vote-buying” move, Hillary Clinton has proposed a bill that would provide some Puerto Rico residents with child-credit refunds on their Social Security and Medicare taxes.

Puerto Ricans pay no federal income tax.

The bill – sponsored solely by Clinton – could pay out more than $50 million over the next 10 years.

Political insiders say Clinton’s motive is obvious, the New York Post reports: "Puerto Rican support is crucial to her re-election – and a potential White House run in 2008. Puerto Ricans are born American citizens, ready-made voters when they move to the United States.”

[steven]

RYE BROOK - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said Monday that an immediate U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq would be "a big mistake."
While professing "the greatest respect" for Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Pa., the ex-Marine who has called for a pullout, the New York Democrat said, "I think that would cause more problems for us in America."

On the other hand, she said, the administration's pledge to stay in Iraq "until the job is done" amounts to giving the Iraqis "an open-ended invitation not to take care of themselves."

The right approach, Clinton suggested, would be for the United States to await Iraq's Dec. 15 elections for a clue about how soon the Iraqis can take over.

"Until they vote for a government I don't know that we will have adequate information about how prepared they are," she said.

"Then we have to tell the new government, "We're not going to be here forever, we are going to be withdrawing our young men and women and we expect you to start moving toward stability.' . . . They have to know we're not going to be there forever.

"Right now Iraq is tottering on the balance," Clinton said. "It will matter to us if Iraq totally collapses into civil war, if it becomes a failed state the way Afghanistan was, where terrorists are free to basically set up camp and launch attacks against us."

Her remarks were her most detailed on the subject since partisan warfare broke out last week in the House with Murtha's call for a complete U.S. pullout from Iraq.

Clinton, who is running for re-election to the Senate and is viewed as a possible presidential candidate in 2008, also managed a few swipes at President Bush while saying, "This is not to me a partisan political debate.

"I think we have to face up to the problems that we're confronting because of poor decision making by the administration," the senator said. "But this is our president for the next three years. My view is we have to work together to fix these problems."

"None of us wants to see a failure in Iraq," she added.

"That is too dangerous for America. So we have to try to make this as successful as possible, having already recognized the numerous mistakes that were made by the administration. We are where we are. Let's try to make it as successful as we can. Let's protect our young men and women, bring them home with honor as soon and as quickly as possible."


http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20051122/1015471.asp

[LHardy]

Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential poll numbers continue to slip with the Democratic Party's left wing base - according to the latest online survey conducted by the Daily Kos web site.

The former first lady has now slid to fifth place among likely candidates, with Virginia Gov. Mark Warner leapfrogging past her into third place. She now ranks just above the Koz category "No Freakin' Clue" among top Democrats who are expected to run.

In more bad news for Mrs. Clinton, her meager 6 percent support continues a downward trend that began over the summer, when she had 10 percent backing her candidacy.

By September, however, she had slipped to 8 percent in the same poll.

Former Gen. Wesley continues to lead in the Kos poll, winning the backing of 26 percent. Sen. Russ Feingold trails in second place, with 19 percent support. Former vice presidential candidate John Edwards comes in fourth, with 12 percent support.
The only first tier presidential candidate who trails Mrs. Clinton is John Kerry, with just 2 percent backing in the online poll.

Notes Kos, whose site is among the most heavily trafficked on the political left: "While this isn't a scientific poll of the Democratic Party rank and file, at 11K+ results it's a pretty darn accurate poll of the sentiments of the Daily Kos community."

[LHardy]

Sunday, Nov. 27, 2005 11:05 a.m. EST

2008 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton won't say whether she read a key intelligence report on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction before she voted in Oct. 2002 to authorize the Iraq war.

Asked directly by the Boston Herald whether she did her homework by reading the report on the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's WMDs, the paper reports that the Democratic frontrunner "declined to say."

Though billed in the press as a supporter of the war, the former first lady has been highly critical of the Bush administration's so-called rush to judgment of Iraq's pre-war threat.

But in Oct. 2002, while explaining why she intended to vote for the war, Clinton clearly left the impression that she had read all the intel on Saddam's WMDs that she could get her hands on.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile-delivery capability and his nuclear program," she told the Senate before voting to authorize the war.
Asked last month whether she regretted her vote, Mrs. Clinton told NPR: "You know, I really can't talk about this on the fly. It's too important."

[steven]

We wont see a femal president in our lifetime

[LHardy]

Steven:
I use to think that, but now I'm not so sure.

[LaNdReW]

Originally posted by LHardy
Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential poll numbers continue to slip with the Democratic Party's left wing base - according to the latest online survey conducted by the Daily Kos web site.

The former first lady has now slid to fifth place among likely candidates, with Virginia Gov. Mark Warner leapfrogging past her into third place. She now ranks just above the Koz category "No Freakin' Clue" among top Democrats who are expected to run.

In more bad news for Mrs. Clinton, her meager 6 percent support continues a downward trend that began over the summer, when she had 10 percent backing her candidacy.

By September, however, she had slipped to 8 percent in the same poll.

Former Gen. Wesley continues to lead in the Kos poll, winning the backing of 26 percent. Sen. Russ Feingold trails in second place, with 19 percent support. Former vice presidential candidate John Edwards comes in fourth, with 12 percent support.
The only first tier presidential candidate who trails Mrs. Clinton is John Kerry, with just 2 percent backing in the online poll.

Notes Kos, whose site is among the most heavily trafficked on the political left: "While this isn't a scientific poll of the Democratic Party rank and file, at 11K+ results it's a pretty darn accurate poll of the sentiments of the Daily Kos community."


I thought all polls are BS, and mean nothing?

[Night Owl]

We wont see a femal president in our lifetime

I have no problem what so ever saying I will vote for Hillary in '08.