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DelawareDistrict

November 18th, 2005, 03:23 AM

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I linked to this story from one of today's posts from
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com">LewRockwell.com</a>.  Anyone who truly
wants to understand how and why we got into the War in Iraq should consider this
required reading.  I will not say it is 100% true, nor will I say it is
100% false.  It does give a much different perspective than what one
typically finds in their morning paper.  I do think the article gives some
startling insight into the path our country could be following.  Even if it
is only 25% true, it is enough to make you get a very uneasy feeling in the pit
of your stomach.
Please take the time to read it and then I would like to
hear some comments on it.  Try to leave out the "garbage" talk such as
"left wing this", "right wing that" .  .  .  I believe an 
intelligent discussion of this article could be a beneficial thing.
To read the story, click
<a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/8798997?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single7&rnd=1132269570292&has-player=true">
HERE.</a>

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Jim Ostrowski

November 18th, 2005, 10:14 AM

DD--I posted this response to the article on a discussion group a minute ago. Let me just add that the article also serves as my response to the ignoramus who attributed to me the belief that only poor people are net tax consumers. You see, I don't scapegoat poor people; I have bigger fish to fry.

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Guy gets rich lying us into war.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/8798997?
pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single7&rnd=1132269570292&has-player=true

Martha Stewart returns a call to her stockbroker and goes to jail. Clinton lies about sex and gets impeached.

Honestly, ever since I wrote that the Iraq War was not about WMDs and would "fail," I've been too disgusted to pay close attention, but shouldn't we be talking about impeaching at least Cheney?

Here's some quotes from my pre-war article:

"More force is always the answer. (What’s the question?) So the U. S. will go to war again over Iraq (maybe). It’s because Saddam has weapons of mass destruction and may want to use them. That’s the official reason. The actual reasons are oil, Israel and imperialism."

"Back to Iraq. After the war to make the world safe for further wars, the Middle East was divided, in Yugoslavian-fashion into a bunch of artificial entities to suit Euro-American interests. Iraq was one of those as was Kuwait. Also, the world wars unleashed communism upon the world. Communism did not arise out of the internal contradictions of capitalism, but out of the
chaos wrought by war in a feudal country— Russia . After helping communists take over Eastern Europe , the Best and the Brightest decided that they had to immediately fight a Cold War against them. This was often done using proxy states. This meant that the U. S. took an unnatural interest in who was
running these countries, lest they fall under the influence of the
communists.

"The U. S. installed the Shah of Iran and looked the other way as his secret police brutalized the Iranian people. The Shah was so nasty toward the people that they revolted and installed a fundamentalist regime which Bush now calls part of the Axis of Evil. To check that regime, the U. S. felt the need to prop up “our man,” Saddam and help his war against Iran by giving him “satellite intelligence and weapons, including precursors for development of biological weapons and the basic ingredients for the chemical agents.” (See, Chalmers Johnson’s article) To pay for the war, Saddam borrowed from Kuwait, which in turn allegedly borrowed some of Iraq’s oil by drilling sideways. Hence, the invasion of Kuwait, Gulf War I and now Gulf War II is
coming to a theater near you. These are all shock waves of the two grand world wars the U. S. supposedly won and which are supposedly over.

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"The combined impact of all the prior “good wars” that “we won” utterly failed to bring peace, prosperity and harmony to the world. Quite the contrary. Excuse me for thinking that the invasion and occupation of Iraq will likewise fail."

http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/ostrowski/ostrowski2.html

Apologies to the readers of Political Class Dismissed for burdening you with this information yet again. (Yes, the book is about a lot more than the slimy Buffalo political machine.)

Jim Ostrowski

November 18th, 2005, 10:17 AM

Another point about the ignoramus--I suspect that many of the poorest people in Buffalo did not vote in the election, but 99 percent of government workers did.

For one thing, the government has felonized lots of poor, minority males, who stumbled into the government's most enticing jobs program: drug-dealing.

Stevenco

November 18th, 2005, 10:38 AM

The only people left that support this war are the blinded by partriotism, the extremely gullible, and the one's in denial.
Who want's to believe the truth? The German population were in denial and manipulated by propoganda 65 years ago. It's much easier that way than to know the reality of the situation. Infact, most people are good, so they find it inconceivable and think it impossible to believe what's really happening. They can't fathom the idea of our own government being sinister. The American government, Red, White, and Blue. Protectors of freedom. They prefer to live with a comfortable cloud in their head. To decipher the truth would be more than they can bear. Not that it's hard to do. It's just too hard to take.

DelawareDistrict

November 18th, 2005, 04:06 PM

Exactly Stevenco, Bush fanned the flames of patriotism so high that he was basically given carte blanche to proceed full steam ahead with his "real" agenda. But like any house built of cards, it will eventually crumble under it's own weight.