Where have all of the anti-war protests gone?

[Truthdetector]

Did I miss the end of the war? Obama becomes President and the anti-war protests have all disappeared. Glad to hear that there will be no more soldiers put in harms way. Or is more likely that the anti-war protests were ant-Republican protests. Maybe all of the protesters found work instead?

[fiona]

Bush had no plan to end it. There was no end in sight. Now there's a plan to get them out and end the war, so it seems logical that there is no need for protests since those who were protesting got what they wanted.

[Truthdetector]

Bush did have a plan to end it. In fact, Bush's plan was to have everyone out earlier than Obama's plan. But why go with facts.

[fiona]

Bush did have a plan to end it. In fact, Bush's plan was to have everyone out earlier than Obama's plan. But why go with facts.

If you have the facts then post them. Bush never had a definitive plan to get out. He kept talking about it though. Read news stories from as far back as 2003 and you'll see he kept promising withdrawals that never happened.

[Truthdetector]

Bush's plan was for a complete withdrawl by Fall 2010. Time will tell if Obama sticks to his plan. I am taking bets if anyone is interested.

I think we need to now focus on what Obama is doing to the poor people of Afghanastan. 17,000 more troops invading that peaceful countryside. To do what? How much is this going to cost? You know what? It's gonna be fun sitting on this side of the fence for the next 4 years? When do we start our anti-invasion protests?

[fiona]

Bush's plan was for a complete withdrawl by Fall 2010

Published?

[Truthdetector]

looking.......

[fiona]

looking.......

Much luck.

[Anotherview]

Rep. John Mc Cain seemed to think that we would be in Iraq for another 100 years and he voted for Bush's policies 94% of the time.

[FisherRd]

Rep. John Mc Cain seemed to think that we would be in Iraq for another 100 years and he voted for Bush's policies 94% of the time.

I suggest you look at McCain's (who I did not vote for) plan and compare it to what Obama is doing.
Then I suggest you look up the "100 years" comment. It may prevent you from mindlessly parroting liberal talking points.

[Dougles]

Rep. John Mc Cain seemed to think that we would be in Iraq for another 100 years and he voted for Bush's policies 94% of the time.


Well we've been in Germany for over 60 and Korea for almost 50. Anyone with a brain new he was refering to a BASE in the area!

[Truthdetector]

By JENNIFER LOVEN, AP
posted: 8 DAYS 21 HOURS AGOcomments: 4066filed under: Iraq News, National News, World News

—The combat withdrawal will take three months longer than he promised. It is now be to completed by the end of August 2010, 19 months after Obama's inauguration. Though what Obama emphasized most as a candidate was his determination to bring about a quick end to the war, in the fine print of almost all his statements was a commitment to flexibility.

The withdrawal will not happen at an even pace of one combat brigade per month, as he had repeatedly said. Instead, it will be backloaded. The force posture for this year and into the first few months of 2010 probably will be essentially the same as it would have been under Bush. Under Obama's plan, troops will start leaving in large numbers probably only next spring or summer. The president intends to leave decisions about the pace to field commanders.

Even after the drawdown, a force of as many as 50,000 troops will remain, which has caused heartache among anti-war Democrats who wanted a fuller pullout.

Obama officials insist that the potential political fallout played no role.One reason was that presidential advisers calculated that whatever option Obama chose, even the most passionate in the anti-war camp would most remember that he ended the war — not when. Also, Obama entered office with the decision having been made much easier for him by none other than Bush, through a last-minute agreement with Iraqis requiring all U.S. troops to leave by December 2011.


CHANGE.....CHANGE..... sorry Dem's, looks like you bought into it big time.

[fiona]

2010 probably will be essentially

One vague quote which is the opinion of one reporter amounts to fact? Bush promised a lot with Iraq and never made good on any of it. We will see what Obama does.

[Truthdetector]

yep, ignore the fact that Bush had already signed an agreement with Iraq to have ALL troops out by December 2011. Ignore the facts, "All Praise Obama!"

[Truthdetector]

Shouldn't all of the anti-war protesters be painting their new signs against the Afghanistan invasions? War is war right? Or is it the leadership we are really protesting? How much money is Obama going to spend on this silly invasion? Lets focus on our borders.

[WNYresident]

Bush had no plan to end it. There was no end in sight. Now there's a plan to get them out and end the war, so it seems logical that there is no need for protests since those who were protesting got what they wanted.

Like 18 months. Isn't that like a 1 and 1/2 years from now?

[Truthdetector]

How many deaths of our soldiers do we have to put up with? The blood of the dead and wounded will be on the hands of Obama until he returns all of our soldiers home NOW! :mad:

[Bringthetruth]

BUSH likes war, this is how his family made their fortune so if you think he didn't learn anything from his granddaddy Prescot Bush then you haven't been informed.

[Truthdetector]

and how much is the Obama family going to make off of the Afghanistan war that he is supporting? But being the Democrat (socialist) that he is I am sure that he will give away most of the money he makes from his books, speeches, etc. Just like Clintons are doing?

[ILOVEDNY]

Shouldn't all of the anti-war protesters be painting their new signs against the Afghanistan invasions? War is war right? Or is it the leadership we are really protesting? How much money is Obama going to spend on this silly invasion? Lets focus on our borders.

Silly Truth.
The Afghan surge is Obama's war.
The protesters are now at recruiting stations signing up.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

In all fairness, President Obama has till late 2010/early 2011 to get the US out of that area. If he does not by that point...it is on his administration.

Anything before this is simply managing policy from the previous administration.

Only the morons in congress realistically thought the US could pull out right away.

[Enough]

....Only the morons in congress realistically thought the US could pull out right away.

And in the voting booth! :p

[Surfing USA]

Only the morons in congress realistically thought the US could pull out right away.I bet Slick Willy wishes he never "pulled out."

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:exK3fB4_sS9ifM:http://www.nohillaryclinton.com/blog/blog_images/bluedress.jpg

The "whole thing" should have been kept "tongue in cheek."

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:F6UIMYtP4P11JM:http://www.lawrenceconnor.com/monica_lewinsky.jpg

[Anotherview]

Then I suggest you look up the "100 years" comment. It may prevent you from mindlessly parroting liberal talking points.

I know what he meant - just having fun here...:)

[Anotherview]

Shouldn't all of the anti-war protesters be painting their new signs against the Afghanistan invasions? War is war right? Or is it the leadership we are really protesting? How much money is Obama going to spend on this silly invasion? Lets focus on our borders.

And there wasn't any US troops in Afghanistan during the Bush Administration?

[300miles]

Bush had no plan to end it. There was no end in sight. Now there's a plan to get them out and end the war
No, not really. Read Obama's plan. He wants to leave 50,000 troops stationed in Iraq indefinitely. And the one's that leave will just be sent to Afghanistan.

[Dumbfounded]

Anyone remember that the United States has the biggest embassy in the WORLD in Iraq and that a small contingent of Marines and/or other military personal wouldn't BEGIN to protect this embassy not to mention the OTHER American business interests which will stay in Iraq after most troops are withdrawn (those NOT protected by Blackwater Inc. whom Iraq wanted OUT of their country for good but didn't get their wish...Hmmm...).

Can't lay one bit of blame on our troops' plight in Iraq on Obama because as infantile as it sounds (like those who STILL support "W's" policies)-As childish as it sounds, Bush "started it" as far as the entire war (with the help of a NOW contrite Colin Powel at the U.N.).

Its Obama's PROBLEM but not Obama's CREATION (duh).


Let's wait & see how much stimulus $$ Obama is ready to spend on the mental & physical health of Iraqi & Afghani war vets because under "W," our troops were treated like garbage;Cannon fodder despite all the pseudo-patriotic "support the troops" bumper stickers and lifeless slogans.

[300miles]

Anyone remember that the United States has the biggest embassy in the WORLD in Iraq and that a small contingent of Marines and/or other military personal wouldn't BEGIN to protect this embassy
50,000 Troops to defend the embassy? OK. :rolleyes:
But what's interesting was how that would be bitterly protested under Bush... But as long as the almight Obamanator says it's needed, then it must be so.

Tighten those blinders, it's gonna be a long 4 years.

[Dumbfounded]

50,000 Troops to defend the embassy? OK. :rolleyes:
But what's interesting was how that would be bitterly protested under Bush... But as long as the almight Obamanator says it's needed, then it must be so.

Tighten those blinders, it's gonna be a long 4 years.


No blinders on. That's why I'm so filled with rage and disgust;Because I'm willing to look straight at what seems to be the irrefutable truth.
300, go to Www.Projectcensored.Org and please read up on citation-source-backed articles on your heroes, "W," Lon Chaney and the rest of these sociopaths in suits.
Most libs gave Bush a chance before he lied to our faces while laying the groundwork for the current morass we're all in (as puppett Pres).

Obama's barely been in office, trying to pull us out of this quicksand and instead of support, "your people" insist on the same useless partisan BS that Obama's trying to overcome (asking for the full support of the GOP in a FRIENDLY way;Not intimidating a la "W")

Go to www.Projectcensored.Com, read a few stories of how "W's" policies have made it really, really hard for most of us to sit down
without screaming in pain cus our bottoms hurt so bad from those wonderful, happy eight years of red, white & blue bliss.

You're really a loyal party man, eh 300?

Yes. Better to have senility and stupidity (McCain and Palin)
than two sharp-as-hell, intellectuals with conscience, Obama & Biden.

But no. It'd be just swell to have Palin in office cus she's purty am
stacked even with that nails-on-the-blackboard shrieking voice of hers and that peanut in her skull she calls a "brain."

Yes. Let's condemn Obama for sitting round' his farm clearing brush until a major terrorist attack hits us.

Say...D'ya think Obama's the kind of guy you can have a beer with?
Cus that's the hallmark of a great President in these dumbed-down days of dolorous despair and waning optimism.

You MUST have made serious $$$ under Bush to be such a blindly loyal supporter, 300.

[Dumbfounded]

I bet Slick Willy wishes he never "pulled out."

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:exK3fB4_sS9ifM:http://www.nohillaryclinton.com/blog/blog_images/bluedress.jpg

The "whole thing" should have been kept "tongue in cheek."

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:F6UIMYtP4P11JM:http://www.lawrenceconnor.com/monica_lewinsky.jpg

It STILL boggles my mind that with all the women Bill Clinton COULD have had while in the White House,
he had that pudgy piglet instead of the supermodels and other hot creatures.

And to think Clinton APPOINTED Ken Star!

God, I hope Linda Tripp is suffering somehow!!!!

Have you seen the Prime Minister of France' wife?
WOW!!!
And yet this is the BEST Clinton could do?
A dopey pudgy intern?!

Well, at least BC didn't pay the GNP of Denmark for a hooker like Spitzer and HE could have done WAY better;Gotten MUCH MORE for his $$$!

[Truthdetector]

[QUOTE=Dumbfounded;458837]
than two sharp-as-hell, intellectuals with conscience, Obama & Biden.

THATS funny......

[Dumbfounded]

[QUOTE=Dumbfounded;458837]
than two sharp-as-hell, intellectuals with conscience, Obama & Biden.

THATS funny......

Cite why and how Obama & Biden are not intelligent.
Generalize all you want but give me your reasons.

Because other than JFK, Clinton & Gore, the rest of our Presidents (since JFK) have been imbeciles.

[Truthdetector]

JFK, Clinton, Gore..... thats the best you got? Funny, they are all Liberals, huh?

[Surfing USA]

Because other than JFK, Clinton & Gore, the rest of our Presidents (since JFK) have been imbeciles.:eek: And, here, I thought the Clintons were pulling Obama's puppet strings. :eek:

[Truthdetector]

At least I figured out how DF got his name!:p

[Truthdetector]

Don't ever count Gore out. Libs have him in cold storage, just in case.

[ILOVEDNY]

Don't ever count Gore out. Libs have him in cold storage, just in case.

Gore is too busy trying to prop up the sinking carbon credits market.
There's a new term called "The Gore Effect".
Seems everywhere the guy goes to spread his AGW papp, it snows.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/03/gore-effect-strikes-again-giant-dc.html

[run4it]

Shouldn't all of the anti-war protesters be painting their new signs against the Afghanistan invasions? War is war right? Or is it the leadership we are really protesting? How much money is Obama going to spend on this silly invasion? Lets focus on our borders.

Hmmm....Let me try to think of the differences between Iraq and Afghanistan....

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OH YEAH!!! The people we're fighting in Afghanistan actually attacked us. Silly me....

[Surfing USA]

Hmmm....Let me try to think of the differences between Iraq and Afghanistan....

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OH YEAH!!! The people we're fighting in Afghanistan actually attacked us. Silly me....And here I thought that the people who "actually attacked us," died on the planes. :rolleyes:

Silly me. :p

[Dougles]

Hmmm....Let me try to think of the differences between Iraq and Afghanistan....

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OH YEAH!!! The people we're fighting in Afghanistan actually attacked us. Silly me....


Than shouldn't you be be upset we aren't in Pakistan also?

[Truthdetector]

So all of the deaths in Iraq, suicide bombers, etc..... just a reaction to our presence? Pakistan? Hell ya, lets give them some love to!!! Don't forget Irar!

[govtchecker]

[quote=Truthdetector;458881]

Cite why and how Obama & Biden are not intelligent.
Generalize all you want but give me your reasons.

Because other than JFK, Clinton & Gore, the rest of our Presidents (since JFK) have been imbeciles.

John Kennedy----35th POTUS
William Clinton----42nd POTUS
Al Gore---------- Can't find him on any list of past President's?

Lack of intelligence. Maybe the inability to get a list of Presidents correct?

[Dumbfounded]

[quote=Dumbfounded;458904]

John Kennedy----35th POTUS
William Clinton----42nd POTUS
Al Gore---------- Can't find him on any list of past President's?

Lack of intelligence. Maybe the inability to get a list of Presidents correct?

Just including Gore because he was VP;Can't think of any highly intelligent VPs cept' Bush I who's intelligent, but not THAT bright.

Not saying that Clinton & Gore are "great."
What was Gore THINKING when he chose DROOPY (the cartoon dog who says, "you know what? You cheated.") as his VP running mate!

Anyways, the anti-war protestors are alive and well in greater numbers than ever;They just aren't covered by your beloved mainstream media, FOLKS because we can't have a ticked off public protesting across the U.S. like we did in the 70's forcing the govt to capitulate and take our troops OUT of Vietnam, FOLKS!

Bad enough the totally avoidable sacrifices made by our troops in Iraq and Afghanastan and adding insult to injury we have a media that's not giving the war the coverage it deserves which brings me to President Obama ALLOWING news coverage of the caskets of our war dead with the family's permission;Have the major networks begun this yet or are they "dragging their feet" on it?

Man. I remember Rush the degenerate once commenting, "do they (media) HAVE to announce the number killed in action/dead from Iraq every day?!" (From when I USED to listen to WBEN & thought Rush was a nice guy and a great entertainer who told the truth.

Give the P'od off Iraqi vets against the war, the famalies of the dead, mutilated, mentally & physically and just "regular" Americans their UNCENSORED say on network TV and you'd hear PLENTY of protests against the war(s).

Just a matter of the major networks giving less coverage to "important things" like celebrity meltdowns and other useless S and other fluff pieces and conducting SERIOUS, RESPECTFUL interviews with vets & their famalies and the MOST HORRIBLE AND SICKENING IMAGES OF THE IRAQ "WAR" POSSIBLE ON NETWORK TV (with the requisite warnings before airing) so the public can get whipped into the furious frenzy they SHOULD be.

But remember, the war profiteers in Iraq (and Afghanastan) that are doing the job our armed forces USED to do BETTER, the war profiteers just might have to pull out of Iraq faster than the "deadline" if the American public actually unified and demanded an immediate end to the "war" as we saw with the Viet Nam protests,
the last time the government REALLY listened to the public on such a huge scale.



"Uh huh! Heh! Duh! Dar! Uh! Huh! Heh! I see how Dumbfounded got his name! Yup! Heh Heh! Where's muh Thorzine, durn it?!"

[Jim Ostrowski]

Great question. Great thread!

The only real antiwar candidate was Ron Paul of course.

On Iraq, Obama's opposition was technical. He never denied the basic premises of the war--America as world cop.

Obama is already warmongering against two little countries that own city killers--Russia and China.

Fasten your seatbelts.

And who wants to bet he will start a war in Africa?

Not to mention national "service."

Americans have knack for picking a president who was worse than the last one, a very difficult task.

[Jim Ostrowski]

"OH YEAH!!! The people we're fighting in Afghanistan actually attacked us. Silly me...."

Sorry, Bush let bin Laden escape years ago. His people went with him.

We are now nation-building, which Bush said he wouldn't do.

[govtchecker]

"OH YEAH!!! The people we're fighting in Afghanistan actually attacked us. Silly me...."

Sorry, Bush let bin Laden escape years ago. His people went with him.

We are now nation-building, which Bush said he wouldn't do.

The President that we know let bin Laden go wasn't Bush it was Clinton. How many chances did President Clinton have and didn't take. Oh, thats right, President Clinton wanted everything to be a Police action and not a military one. How did that work out for us?

[Jim Ostrowski]

You partisans are pathetic. The country has been destroyed by both parties and the folks in charge love it when the masses get distracted by these pointless intramurals.

It is well known that we knew BL was there and Bush relied on the locals to catch him.

As for Clinton, what are you referring to? 9/11 happened while Bush was sleepwalking through his first term.

Sorry to confuse you with the FACTS but Clinton made many attempts to kill BL. You guys shouted Monica when he did so.

On the other hand, before 9/11, Bush was trying to give the Taliban millions of dollars.

The problem with this country and this area particularly, is too many people are allergic to research. That's why you are so easily conned by cheap propaganda.

[FREEDOM ONE]

Sir, with all due respect, we had the intel to nab BL in 1995. This isnt heresay, first hand. Who was Commander-in-Chief? Other than that, I agree with everything you say. The duoploy obfuscates true debate and strategic policy, as well as promulgating true demogougery by dividing the body politic against ourselves, not uniting us. That would scare the tar out of the corporates. ;) And now you see the logic of the MWP.

God wont save the Republic, 'She' is waiting for us to STAND UP AND FIGHT!

Don't y'all want to turn the rainbow coalition inside out and turn it back on its masters? :) I do.

GODSPEED to all our soldiers. Doom to all the chickenhawks in DC. I'll be lighting my cigars from Cheney's flaming eye sockets IN HELL. Can't wait.

[Jim Ostrowski]

What's your source for that?

What crimes had he committed at that time?