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Peachess
September 29th, 2005, 11:50 AM
I watched the local new last night, and I was disgusted when Frank Canata walked away with a small slap on the wrist for his crimes! Probation instead of 81/3 to 25 yrs

I grew up on Grand Island went to school there from pre-K right through my Senior yr...and yes I know the Canata's I went to school with them and Frank's Mom is a Monitor for the G.I. High School which my Nephew is now attending.

I can say Frank was a super guy, wonderful person...etc and it would be the truth he was indeed all of those things...HOWEVER, that in no way excuses him from the crimes he committed! He broke the law and put the lives of children in danger by having that crap on school property!

What kind of message is this sending to our kids?!? not to mention what is this telling the parents of those kids...tough luck your child goes to school on G.I. and we will not protect them from Teachers or Staff that wish to endanger them by partaking or drugs!?!

My God....we do not allow smoking on school grounds at all, but hey...if you want to use Meth...oh that will be ok!?!

I'm sad and heartbroken that Frank got himself onto drugs...but, that in no way changes the fact that I am disgusted and damn mad that the Law is not setting a better example for the children, parents, teachers and staff of G.I.....and every other School District in this area!

Funny, they teminate a bus driver for discussing current events with kids...but they over look a Principal that does Meth...

It would be a cold day in hell before I ever allowed my child back into that School System!

atotaltotalfan2001
September 29th, 2005, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Peachess
I watched the local new last night, and I was disgusted when Frank Canata walked away with a small slap on the wrist for his crimes! Probation instead of 81/3 to 25 yrs

I grew up on Grand Island went to school there from pre-K right through my Senior yr...and yes I know the Canata's I went to school with them and Frank's Mom is a Monitor for the G.I. High School which my Nephew is now attending.

I can say Frank was a super guy, wonderful person...etc and it would be the truth he was indeed all of those things...HOWEVER, that in no way excuses him from the crimes he committed! He broke the law and put the lives of children in danger by having that crap on school property!

What kind of message is this sending to our kids?!? not to mention what is this telling the parents of those kids...tough luck your child goes to school on G.I. and we will not protect them from Teachers or Staff that wish to endanger them by partaking or drugs!?!

My God....we do not allow smoking on school grounds at all, but hey...if you want to use Meth...oh that will be ok!?!

I'm sad and heartbroken that Frank got himself onto drugs...but, that in no way changes the fact that I am disgusted and damn mad that the Law is not setting a better example for the children, parents, teachers and staff of G.I.....and every other School District in this area!

Funny, they teminate a bus driver for discussing current events with kids...but they over look a Principal that does Meth...

It would be a cold day in hell before I ever allowed my child back into that School System!


I'm in no way defending Frank Cannata, but I'm really get sick of this erroneous comparison between Cannata and Julianne Thompson.


Ms. Thompson quit her job; she was not fired. To say she was just discussing "current events" makes it sound like a benign conversation about, oh, the federal deficit or something. Not the case. She was pushing her own pro-life agenda on children and, if she hadn't quit, should have been fired. That is entirely inappropriate behavior on her part.

Moreover, she contacted the media about the incident, trying to make herself into a martyr instead of being honest about what she was really doing: Getting political mileage out of her departure.

As for Cannata, this post includes other erroneous points.

1. The sentencing recommendation for Cannata was 1 year in prison -- not 81/3 to 25 yrs.

2. Cannata was never accused of endangering children by bring that "crap" onto school grounds. There was also never any indication that he took drugs during the school day, as you allege.

3. The district didn't "look over" the Cannata situation. While charges were investigated he was removed with pay; when it was learned he did not even have the right credentials to be a principal, he was suspended without pay. I think that is pretty much where he stands now.

WNYresident
September 29th, 2005, 02:00 PM
Not the case. She was pushing her own pro-life agenda on children and, if she hadn't quit, should have been fired. That is entirely inappropriate behavior on her part.

There's truely no way to prove this. Would the children even understand what a "pro-life agenda" is more or less be swayed by it

Peachess
September 29th, 2005, 06:47 PM
it isn't "erroneous" at all. Frank had drugs in his posession while on school grounds...therefore he most certainly did endanger children!...period! I don't care if he claims he wasn't high during school hours, never took his stash out of his desk drawer, he can claim til the cows come home, it won't change the facts...splitting hairs isn't what it's about.

When someone does drugs especially Meth they are a danger not only to themselves but everyone around them...and I do speak with knowledge on the subject...I am a Nurse and I do know what I am talking about.

I wouldn't care if what was found wasn't enough to fill a pinkie nail...he broke the law! Not maybe, not kind of...he did it and he should be in jail.

As for Mrs Thompson, she did not quit...she was terminated and whether or not she is pro life or pro choice...I honestly don't care, I have my own person views on that issue...and won't be addressing it here, as I believe everyone has the right to their own opinions on that topic.

As for Frank...I still think...do the crime...do the time!

therising
September 29th, 2005, 07:16 PM
For thise of us who don't know...what did this guy do?

moonshine
September 29th, 2005, 08:22 PM
For thise of us who don't know...what did this guy do?

He gave peachess a reason to feel self-righteous.

Night Owl
September 29th, 2005, 09:46 PM
What kind of message is this sending to our kids?!?

Is he still teaching?

Ragin
September 30th, 2005, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Peachess it isn't "erroneous" at all. Frank had drugs in his posession while on school grounds...therefore he most certainly did endanger children!...period!

Like TTF, I too am sick and tired of the lies that are spread on this board about Frank Cannata. This is not the first encounter with over exaggerations and rumors purporting to be facts.

As reported by Robin Young, WGRZ TVProsecutors said the investigators found no evidence that Cannata dealt drugs, used them at school, or that his use involved students

Where do you, Peachess, get your information? Mr and Mrs Thompson perhaps? Rus Thompson dedicated an entire thread on another website using Frank as an excuse to justify the behaviors of Mrs Thompson. The US Attorney and the Judge obviously disagree with all of you.

I know Mr Cannata personally. My children attended Sidway while he was the school principal and I was at the school almost on a daily basis, as I was a class mother and volunteered my time quite often on numerous occasions. I also attend Mass every Sunday Morning to hear him lead the chorus. I make it a point to know all my children's teachers and yes, the school principal.

I never once saw Mr Cannata under the influence of drugs or alcohol on school grounds. And Yes, I would know, as I've held my R.N. license for over 20 years and worked with patients who had chemical dependencies. I also had the unfortunate opportunity to be married to an alcoholic and cocaine/crack addicted individual. I know what drug intoxication looks like, smells like, and tastes like. You can hold up your status as a nurse, but you can't beat my experience in the field.

That said, ... I don't agree with what Mr Cannata chose as an outlet to whatever problems he had that led him down this path. There were obviously other healthier choices he could have made, but unless you walked in his footsteps, don't you dare come in here and start a thread with the intent of spreading vicious lies and rumors about him, me or anyone else. You show me facts, I'll listen, but be prepared to back them up.

As this is only your 3rd post since you became a member yesterday, I have my suspicions of your intentions. Did you join because it offered you an opportunity to trash Mr Cannata on a local website? Or are you here to justify Julianne Thompson's behavior?

Seems incredibly coincidental you are the second person in a week to sign up for membership and the only thing you have to say and post are lies and exaggerations about Mr Cannata, while defending Julianne Thompson .... just like the poster using the name "eleni" did. Ha .. she waited for her 5th post to start her slanderous agenda. ....and "surprise, surprise" both Rus and Julianne Thompson mysteriously have stopped posting precisely at the same time.... wow .. what a coincidence!

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions and everyone here can come to their own conclusions about eleni and Peachess. I've already stated mine.

Peachess
September 30th, 2005, 10:52 AM
That's what makes this forum so great...everyone can post their own views and opinions.

I don't expect anyone to agree with me 100%...or even 1%

You may share all, part or non of my views...it's all good, I am only who I am. I am not the other ppl you mentioned nor do I know them ( I'm sure if you wish to bring your doubts to the Adm. he can check out my ISP number to put your fears to rest on this) I post as I see and voice my views...as we all do.

Feel free to post as you wish...because although I may/or maynot agree with anything you say...I'll always support your right to say them.

Wow....isn't the freedom of speech a wonderful thing!

Ya'll have a great day now :D

atotaltotalfan2001
September 30th, 2005, 02:13 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Peachess
[B]it isn't "erroneous" at all. Frank had drugs in his posession while on school grounds...therefore he most certainly did endanger children!...period!

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And you have proof of this? Court papers, arrest records etc -- something besides gossip?
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I don't care if he claims he wasn't high during school hours, never took his stash out of his desk drawer, he can claim til the cows come home, it won't change the facts...splitting hairs isn't what it's about.

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I'll believe he endanged his pupils when you actually have "facts" --court testimony etc. Without that, you're just gossiping. PERIOD!

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atotaltotalfan2001
September 30th, 2005, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by RaginTaxpayer
Like TTF, I too am sick and tired of the lies that are spread on this board about Frank Cannata. This is not the first encounter with over exaggerations and rumors purporting to be facts.



Where do you, Peachess, get your information? Mr and Mrs Thompson perhaps? Rus Thompson dedicated an entire thread on another website using Frank as an excuse to justify the behaviors of Mrs Thompson. The US Attorney and the Judge obviously disagree with all of you.

I know Mr Cannata personally. My children attended Sidway while he was the school principal and I was at the school almost on a daily basis, as I was a class mother and volunteered my time quite often on numerous occasions. I also attend Mass every Sunday Morning to hear him lead the chorus. I make it a point to know all my children's teachers and yes, the school principal.

I never once saw Mr Cannata under the influence of drugs or alcohol on school grounds. And Yes, I would know, as I've held my R.N. license for over 20 years and worked with patients who had chemical dependencies. I also had the unfortunate opportunity to be married to an alcoholic and cocaine/crack addicted individual. I know what drug intoxication looks like, smells like, and tastes like. You can hold up your status as a nurse, but you can't beat my experience in the field.

That said, ... I don't agree with what Mr Cannata chose as an outlet to whatever problems he had that led him down this path. There were obviously other healthier choices he could have made, but unless you walked in his footsteps, don't you dare come in here and start a thread with the intent of spreading vicious lies and rumors about him, me or anyone else. You show me facts, I'll listen, but be prepared to back them up.

As this is only your 3rd post since you became a member yesterday, I have my suspicions of your intentions. Did you join because it offered you an opportunity to trash Mr Cannata on a local website? Or are you here to justify Julianne Thompson's behavior?

Seems incredibly coincidental you are the second person in a week to sign up for membership and the only thing you have to say and post are lies and exaggerations about Mr Cannata, while defending Julianne Thompson .... just like the poster using the name "eleni" did. Ha .. she waited for her 5th post to start her slanderous agenda. ....and "surprise, surprise" both Rus and Julianne Thompson mysteriously have stopped posting precisely at the same time.... wow .. what a coincidence!

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions and everyone here can come to their own conclusions about eleni and Peachess. I've already stated mine.

I wondered the same thing. I think we share the same conclusion about the "identities" of these posters.

Ragin
September 30th, 2005, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Peachess
Wow....isn't the freedom of speech a wonderful thing!

Free Speech does not trump laws of decency.

Makes me question what your parents taught you and what you teach your own children about common decency, and spreading lies and rumors?

I wish more people like you would remove your kids from the Grand Island schools. I don't want your children anywhere near mine.

That goes for Mrs Thompson and "eleni" as well.

I pray that God keeps Hell from freezing over :D

Peachess
September 30th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Wow...I thought this was an open forum...where views an opinions were welcomed to be expressed...but it seems if you ruffle feathers you are an imposter, a person who uses numorous accounts...etc

Well...I have only one account here...hence I haven't been removed by the Adm. I won't need to remove my child from G.I. as my child has graduated from High School...with Honors...so no need to worry yourself further on that note...

As for the rest of your insults...it's odd I never once had to stoop to insulting you or anyone else or their children for that matter, what a shame you feel the need to attack someones child to make yourself feel hmmm...I guess more important.

I'll continue to post my opinions and views...if you don't wish to read them, by all means...skip over them, if they come to you in email...delete.

Lastly...since this thread has been reduced to nastyness and I won't stoop to the level to attack someone via their child/children, I'll take my own advice and ignore your future posts.

Do have a lovely weekend

Night Owl
September 30th, 2005, 09:05 PM
Is anyone going to answer if the accussed is still teaching?

Wow...I thought this was an open forum...where views an opinions were welcomed to be expressed...

It is also a forum where opinions and ideas are questioned - that's what makes it open.

Ragin
September 30th, 2005, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Night Owl
Is anyone going to answer if the accussed is still teaching?

Sorry Night Owl, I should have answered your question.

No, He's not teaching. He was suspended immediately upon his arrest and that's where he remains until Grand Island School District addresses this further.

It's a sad story for most of us who knew him personally, through church or through the school district. Most of us, but not all.

I do wish him well whatever happens.

therising
September 30th, 2005, 09:29 PM
Will someone please tell me what this guy did?

Night Owl
September 30th, 2005, 09:35 PM
No, He's not teaching. He was suspended immediately upon his arrest and that's where he remains until Grand Island School District addresses this further.

So then he has received his punishement, if he remains unteaching in the school district and is on probation, there is no way to say he has put children in danger any further. (IE- "tough luck your child goes to school on G.I. and we will not protect them from Teachers or Staff that wish to endanger them by partaking or drugs!?! ")

Ragin
September 30th, 2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Peachess
Wow...I thought this was an open forum...where views an opinions were welcomed to be expressed...but it seems if you ruffle feathers you are an imposter, a person who uses numorous accounts...etc

Only ruffles my feathers when you outright lie with the intent to deceive. Rumors and gossip are always questioned.

Well...I have only one account here...hence I haven't been removed by the Adm.

I did happen to notice your 1st post was in the Admin court the day you signed up ... lol I hope you took notes


I won't need to remove my child from G.I. as my child has graduated from High School...with Honors...so no need to worry yourself further on that note...

I only responded to your statement "It would be a cold day in hell before I ever allowed my child back into that School System!"
There appears to be a contradiction between your first post here and this post. What's up with that??

As for the rest of your insults...it's odd I never once had to stoop to insulting you or anyone else or their children for that matter, what a shame you feel the need to attack someones child to make yourself feel hmmm...I guess more important.

Did you actually read your first post?

I'll continue to post my opinions and views...if you don't wish to read them, by all means...skip over them, if they come to you in email...delete.

I don't care to read gossip, rumors and lies you can't back up here or in emails.

Lastly...since this thread has been reduced to nastyness and I won't stoop to the level to attack someone via their child/children, I'll take my own advice and ignore your future posts.

Reduced to nastiness??? hahahaha ... hehehehe ....

I rest my case

Ragin
September 30th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by therising
Will someone please tell me what this guy did?

Sorry rising ... I was still laughing :D

You can read it here:

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050929/1008694.asp