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steven
August 30th, 2005, 12:48 PM
While President George W. Bush travels around the country in a last-ditch effort to sell his Iraq war, White House aides scramble frantically behind the scenes to hide the dark mood of an increasingly angry leader who unleashes obscenity-filled outbursts at anyone who dares disagree with him.

“I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,” Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. “She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!”

Bush, administration aides confide, frequently explodes into tirades over those who protest the war, calling them “mother****ing traitors.” He reportedly was so upset over Veterans of Foreign Wars members who wore “bull**** protectors” over their ears during his speech to their annual convention that he told aides to “tell those VFW *******s that I’ll never speak to them again if they can’t keep their members under control.”

White House insiders say Bush is growing increasingly bitter over mounting opposition to his war in Iraq. Polls show a vast majority of Americans now believe the war was a mistake and most doubt the President’s honesty.

“Who gives a flying **** what the polls say,” he screamed at a recent strategy meeting. “I’m the President and I’ll do whatever I goddamned please. They don’t know ****.”

Bush, whiles setting up for a photo op for signing the recent CAFTA bill, flipped an extended middle finger to reporters. Aides say the President often “flips the bird” to show his displeasure and tells aides who disagree with him to “go to hell” or to “go **** yourself.” His habit of giving people the finger goes back to his days as Texas governor, aides admit, and videos of him doing so before press conferences were widely circulated among TV stations during those days. A recent video showing him shooting the finger to reporters while walking also recently surfaced.

Bush’s behavior, according to prominent Washington psychiatrist, Dr. Justin Frank, author of “Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President,” is all too typical of an alcohol-abusing bully who is ruled by fear.

To see that fear emerges, Dr. Frank says, all one has to do is confront the President. “To actually directly confront him in a clear way, to bring him out, so you would really see the bully, and you would also see the fear,” he says.

Dr. Frank, in his book, speculates that Bush, an alcoholic who brags that he gave up booze without help from groups like Alcoholics Anonymous, may be drinking again.

“Two questions that the press seems particularly determined to ignore have hung silently in the air since before Bush took office,” Dr. Frank says. “Is he still drinking? And if not, is he impaired by all the years he did spend drinking? Both questions need to be addressed in any serious assessment of his psychological state.”

Last year, Capitol Hill Blue learned the White House physician prescribed anti-depressant drugs for the President to control what aides called “violent mood swings.” As Dr. Frank also notes: “In writing about Bush's halting appearance in a press conference just before the start of the Iraq War, Washington Post media critic Tom Shales speculated that ‘the president may have been ever so slightly medicated.’”

Dr. Frank explains Bush’s behavior as all-to-typical of an alcoholic who is still in denial:

“The pattern of blame and denial, which recovering alcoholics work so hard to break, seems to be ingrained in the alcoholic personality; it's rarely limited to his or her drinking,” he says. “The habit of placing blame and denying responsibility is so prevalent in George W. Bush's personal history that it is apparently triggered by even the mildest threat.”

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml

atotaltotalfan2001
August 30th, 2005, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by steven
While President George W. Bush travels around the country in a last-ditch effort to sell his Iraq war, White House aides scramble frantically behind the scenes to hide the dark mood of an increasingly angry leader who unleashes obscenity-filled outbursts at anyone who dares disagree with him.

“I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,” Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. “She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!”

Bush, administration aides confide, frequently explodes into tirades over those who protest the war, calling them “mother****ing traitors.” He reportedly was so upset over Veterans of Foreign Wars members who wore “bull**** protectors” over their ears during his speech to their annual convention that he told aides to “tell those VFW *******s that I’ll never speak to them again if they can’t keep their members under control.”

White House insiders say Bush is growing increasingly bitter over mounting opposition to his war in Iraq. Polls show a vast majority of Americans now believe the war was a mistake and most doubt the President’s honesty.

“Who gives a flying **** what the polls say,” he screamed at a recent strategy meeting. “I’m the President and I’ll do whatever I goddamned please. They don’t know ****.”

Bush, whiles setting up for a photo op for signing the recent CAFTA bill, flipped an extended middle finger to reporters. Aides say the President often “flips the bird” to show his displeasure and tells aides who disagree with him to “go to hell” or to “go **** yourself.” His habit of giving people the finger goes back to his days as Texas governor, aides admit, and videos of him doing so before press conferences were widely circulated among TV stations during those days. A recent video showing him shooting the finger to reporters while walking also recently surfaced.

Bush’s behavior, according to prominent Washington psychiatrist, Dr. Justin Frank, author of “Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President,” is all too typical of an alcohol-abusing bully who is ruled by fear.

To see that fear emerges, Dr. Frank says, all one has to do is confront the President. “To actually directly confront him in a clear way, to bring him out, so you would really see the bully, and you would also see the fear,” he says.

Dr. Frank, in his book, speculates that Bush, an alcoholic who brags that he gave up booze without help from groups like Alcoholics Anonymous, may be drinking again.

“Two questions that the press seems particularly determined to ignore have hung silently in the air since before Bush took office,” Dr. Frank says. “Is he still drinking? And if not, is he impaired by all the years he did spend drinking? Both questions need to be addressed in any serious assessment of his psychological state.”

Last year, Capitol Hill Blue learned the White House physician prescribed anti-depressant drugs for the President to control what aides called “violent mood swings.” As Dr. Frank also notes: “In writing about Bush's halting appearance in a press conference just before the start of the Iraq War, Washington Post media critic Tom Shales speculated that ‘the president may have been ever so slightly medicated.’”

Dr. Frank explains Bush’s behavior as all-to-typical of an alcoholic who is still in denial:

“The pattern of blame and denial, which recovering alcoholics work so hard to break, seems to be ingrained in the alcoholic personality; it's rarely limited to his or her drinking,” he says. “The habit of placing blame and denying responsibility is so prevalent in George W. Bush's personal history that it is apparently triggered by even the mildest threat.”

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml

I'm sure I'll be accused of being unpatriotic, a bad American, soft on terror and yada yada yada....but...

I think this story is really funny. Somehow it is how I envision Bush during his "down" time.

Dare I ask why you didn't also post the picture?

ERIEMAN
August 30th, 2005, 01:32 PM
http://hannah.smith-family.com/archive/000266.html

300miles
August 30th, 2005, 01:36 PM
ah yes the "capitolhillblue" website. A shining source of rock solid and highly accurate news reporting.

shouldn't this be under Morning Breakfast with the other jokes?

lcm
August 30th, 2005, 01:45 PM
no, I wouldnt say this post is unpatriotic

I doubt we will ever know the real reasons for the Afghanistan War or the Iraq War. There may be intelligence never made aware to the american people or it could be one or a combination of motives already suspected.

As far as the temper, its not suprising...we've had glimpses of it before and I bet if one were a fly on the wall there would be all sorts of character flaws and shortcomings in all our past presidents.

It may be an accurate psychological assessment or just another mental health profession fitting a square peg in a round whole (creating a pathology around a non-existent disease based on personality trait)

It may be that its alchohol related or maybe its the spoiled rich kid not getting his way or the pressure of the white house (and how Iraq is costing him his dreams of glory.

Its just one of those things that we probably will never know but the story is based on fact and one shouldnt be called unpatriotic because of their views about it.

If we can discuss Roosevelt's, Kennedy's and Clintons extra-marital affair, Nixons lies and abuse of power, Carters indecisiveness, Reagans Alzheimers,...we can certainly discuss Bush's temper.

300miles
August 30th, 2005, 01:57 PM
or... maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

WestSideJohn
August 30th, 2005, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by 300miles
or... maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d Could very well be. But the footage of Mr. Bush flipping the bird at the bill signing was played on television for anyone to see. Are you suggesting that was faked, also?

300miles
August 30th, 2005, 03:57 PM
nope. i haven't seen the video so can't say one way or another.

avet
August 30th, 2005, 04:07 PM
Allowing a major attack on our soil ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

People dying in a "war" started by lies ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

Bushs' cuts to veteran's benefits ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

Bushs' cuts on taxes for the rich ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

Bushs' protection for war corporations setting profitting "records" ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

Our country being hated more, everyday ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

Our country being totally "broke" ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

Our country borders wide open to illegals ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

Our country wide open to drugs ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d

Our rights being slowly but surely diminshed ....maybe it's p h o t o s h o p p e d


TIME TO REALLY ....."GET REAL" PEOPLE !!!!

avet
August 30th, 2005, 04:18 PM
Poll: Support for Patriot Act shrinks the more people know about it

A University of Connecticut poll says fewer than half of Americans know the purpose of the Patriot Act, and the more they know about it the less they like it.
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FBI labeled peace, affirmative action group 'terrorist'

"This document confirms our fears that federal and state counterterrorism officers have turned their attention to groups and individuals engaged in peaceful protest activities,"
"When the FBI and local law enforcement identify affirmative action advocates as potential terrorists, every American has cause for concern."
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300miles
August 30th, 2005, 04:19 PM
i did a quick search on the "finger incident" westside mentioned. Were you referring to the CAFTA bill? That was a thumbs-up, not his finger. Reporters that were there in the same room verified it was not his middle finger. Of course the video is distant and fuzzy so people in internet chat rooms can spin whatever obsene gesture into it that they want without having proof.

So once again... shouldn't this be in Morning Breakfast?

avet
August 30th, 2005, 04:30 PM
THIS IS HOW HE PROTECTS US ??

DO YOU...
GO BUY A "REAL, REAL EXPENSIVE" CAR ALARM THAT "GOES OFF ALL THE TIME" FOR YOUR POR$CHE CONVERTIBLE
---BUT---
LEAVE THE "TOP DOWN" & "KEYS IN IT" ....AT ALL TIMES !!!!!!!!!

On Aug. 12, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson declared a state of emergency "due to a chaotic situation involving illegal alien smuggling and illegal drug shipments" on his southern border. Three days later, Gov. Janet Napolitano followed suit in Arizona.
Reason: the crisis on the border. The ally-ally-in-free immigration policy of George Bush and Vicente Fox, beloved of corporate America, has created a HELL on our southern border.

It is a mark of the cowardice of our leaders that they are so terrified of being called "bigots" they tolerate this criminality. The moral rot of political correctness runs deep today in both national parties.

What are these Bush Republicans afraid of ? Dirty looks from the help at the country club?

Where is Bush? All wrapped up in the issue of whether women in Najaf will have the same rights in divorce and custody cases as women in Nebraska. His legislative agenda for the fall includes a BLANKET AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS, so they can be exploited by businesses who want to hold wages down as they dump the social costs for their employees – health care, schools, courts, cops, prisons – onto TAXPAYERS.

George Bush is chief executive of the United States. It is his duty to enforce the laws. Can anyone fairly say he is enforcing the immigration laws? Those laws are ..."clear".

Twice, George Bush has taken an oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Well, we are being invaded, and the president of the United States is NOT DOING HIS DUTY to protect the states against that invasion. Some courageous Republican, to get the attention of this White House, should drop into the hopper a bill of impeachment, charging George W. Bush with a CONSCIOUS REFUSAL to uphold his oath and defend the states of the Union against "invasion."
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State legislators said yesterday that Virginia is facing an IMMIGRATION CRISIS on par with Arizona and New Mexico and urged Gov. Mark Warner to declare an emergency like the governors of those two states did last week.

"They might be coming through Arizona, but they are landing here," Mr. Frederick said.
"It's getting out of control. We really need to do everything we can and utilize every tool that's available to us."

Conservative estimates put the number of illegal aliens in Virginia at 100,000 to 200,000.

He said that if the governor were to declare a state of emergency, it should accompany legislation that takes away any incentives illegal aliens may receive when coming to Virginia.

"The conditions exist that the federal government should use its emergency powers. Because at the present time, it openly admits that it is UNABLE TO DETAIN ALL OF THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT IT APPREHENDS , and it is allowing hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens to enter the country every year,"
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While sympathetic to the plight of U.S. border communities reeling under the rising tide of illegal immigrants, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff stopped short Tuesday of promising such places any significant increase in the number of border agents or other federal resources.

The volume of illegal immigrants has caused problems for private landowners and small communities whose police and medical services are stretched to the breaking point.

"It's not only a strain on the border communities where there's crime but it's a larger strain on all our communities having to deal with the burden of illegal immigration," Chertoff said. "But we need to have a comprehensive solution."

Such a solution, Chertoff said, would include a TEMPORARY WORKER PROGRAM (BLANKET AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS) like that proposed by President Bush that would "REGULARIZE" the immigration process and take the incentive away from smuggling gangs.
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Mexican drug commando organization los Zetas has been carrying out kidnappings of American citizens and politically motivated assassinations which have stretched from the border town of Nuevo Laredo through to Dallas, Houston and San Antonio all the way to Nashville, Tenn., and Atlanta, Ga.

"We're seeing an alarming number of incidents involving the same type of violence that's become all too common in Mexico, right here in Dallas," said the former Dallas narcotics officer. "We're seeing execution style murders, burned bodies and outright mayhem. It's like the battles being waged in Mexico for turf have reached Dallas."

The town of Nuevo Laredo is basically under a state of siege, causing the US to close their consulate in the city on August 8th, after bazookas, grenades and machine guns bombarded nearby buildings. This followed the murder of Police Chief Alejandro Dominguez, who was assassinated only hours after taking office.

Eighteen other police have been killed in Nuevo Laredo alone, along with police and border patrol on the US side.

A Mexican federal agent was also gunned down in Brownsville, Texas in late May. Violence against border patrol agents at a RECORD HIGH.

Los Zetas wear black military style uniforms and in every way are an organized, regimented force which poses a threat to the US TEN "TIMES GREATER" than Al-Qaeda, yet a majority of US citizens have LITTLE IDEA who they are or the carnage that they are causing.

On July 26 the United States renewed a travel warning for U.S. citizens crossing the border into Mexico. The U.S. ambassador in Mexico, Tony Garza, said that the violence saw NO SIGN of abating.

With the rampage spreading further and further into the States, one would expect the US government to be doing their up most to tighten the border and protect the country from increased infiltration from the Zetas death squads.

They have done the .....EXACT OPPOSITE.

After President Bush attacked the Minutemen as "vigilantes," the Border Patrol in Arizona were ordered to stand down and not arrest people illegally crossing the border, in order to make the Minutemen look bad and ineffective.

The establishment media played their part in demonizing the Minutemen as a racist lynch mob, when in reality the Minutemen are just concerned citizens sitting in lawn chairs with binoculars, in many cases on their own land, trying to aid the border patrol in protecting America.

Bush continues to sign legislation like CAFTA and further enhancements of he FTAA, easing border controls which harm America not only economically but also make it less secure.

Why would the US government make it easier for drug smuggling death squads to enter the country? Because the US government controls los Zetas and uses it as the front group for their narco-empire.

Retired DEA Agent Celerino "Cele" Castillo III served for 12 years in the Drug Enforcement Administration where he built cases against organized drug rings in Manhattan, raided jungle cocaine labs in the amazon, conducted aerial eradication operations in Guatemala, and assembled and trained anti-narcotics units in several countries.

Castillo dismisses media reports that the los Zetas crime wave was simply a case of blowback after the US government trained them at the School of the Americas at Fort Benning, Georgia in the 70's and 80's.

Castillo affirms that truth is that THEY ARE STILL WORKING FOR THE US GOVERNMENT in protecting drug routes to keep the wheels of Wall Street oiled. Castillo has gone on the record to state that the commandos are WORKING DIRECTLY FOR THE US GOVERNMENT drug cartel in carrying out hits on rival drug smugglers who aren't paying their cut.

Cele Castillo:
"That same blueprint they used in Guatemala and in Vietnam they have now brought it to Iraq and the same Colonel who ran the death squads down in El Salvador Colonel James Steele is now running those commando unit death squads in Iraq. So basically we have the SAME individuals, SAME cell groups that were in Vietnam that came to central America and Miami and so forth and are now in Iraq and some of them are being trained here in south Texas. There's warehouses down here we're they're training more Zetas individuals that work for the cartels.

....and now they're planning to come to south Texas and they're gonna do the same thing here in south Texas and there was a story just today in the paper which says border patrol agents say you know what, WE CAN'T STOP hese people from coming across the border and the reason that we can't stop them is because OUR GOVERNMENT IS NOT ALLOWING US TO DO IT."

....one of the most major things that people don't realize that's going on is, a lot of these people getting murdered are informants for the DEA and FBI and basically people don't wanna admit the fact or let the public know that these people are informants WORKING DIRECTLY FOR THE US GOVERNMENT."

steven
August 30th, 2005, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by 300miles
i did a quick search on the "finger incident" westside mentioned. Were you referring to the CAFTA bill? That was a thumbs-up, not his finger. Reporters that were there in the same room verified it was not his middle finger. Of course the video is distant and fuzzy so people in internet chat rooms can spin whatever obsene gesture into it that they want without having proof.

So once again... shouldn't this be in Morning Breakfast?

The finger incident has been widley reported and has even been showed on network TV. I am sure if bush didnt "flip the bird" no tv network would have allowed it to play or the Bush camp would be issuing denials. They did and his camp has issued no denials that I am aware of.

The alchol refrences are well documented, bush does have 2 dui's , and no those arent photoshopped either. Funny that the president of the United states cant legally operate a car in his own country.

I dont generally get any news per say from that site as I agree its mostly editoral but...... Hey, there are some people that dont think the president of the most powerful country in the world should be flipping people the bird.

The thing I fined most amazing in Bush supporters is the total amount of denial for all the flaws he has. He has 2 dui's his daughters are brats they get away with murder and have been caught at least three times using fake IDs to get into bars during his tenure, and he is known to be a little raunchy (IE flipping reporters the bird). When clinton (and we all knew his penis would show up in here somewhere so let me beat u to it) cheated on his wife the clinton supporters were not running around saying it wasnt true and they seemed genuinly embarresed by it but didnt think the act of cheating on your wife was something the american public should get involved in. (especially since probably half the presidents we have had did the same)

What gives? Do bush supporters have no shame, or do they just refuse to accept all his flaws?

:confused:

WNYresident
August 30th, 2005, 05:20 PM
Well, we are being invaded,


How many illegals are coming over the borders yearly?

avet
August 30th, 2005, 05:27 PM
Our illegal immigration counters are based on an estimated TWENTY MILLION illegal aliens having been present in our nation as of January 1, 2004.

An independent study of the underground economy released in January 2005 by the Wall Street financial firm Bear Stearns, The Underground Labor Force is Rising to the Surface, produced estimates of 18-20 million illegal aliens present in the United States.

Department of Homeland Security estimates of 8-12 million illegal aliens in the United States and 700,000 new illegals entering and staying per year represent significant undercounts.

This analysis shows that it is reasonable to state that more than 20 million illegal aliens reside in the United States and approximately 10,000 illegal aliens enter the United States EVERY DAY, or, as Arizona Senator John McCain reports – almost FOUR MILLION per year.

300miles
August 30th, 2005, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by steven
The finger incident has been widley reported and has even been showed on network TV. I am sure if bush didnt "flip the bird" no tv network would have allowed it to play or the Bush camp would be issuing denials. They did and his camp has issued no denials that I am aware of.
yes, and some of those networks, MSNBC for one, stated on air that although it may have looked like he was flipping the bird, it was in fact his thumb, not his finger. And it would be a bit below the status of president of the USA to take time to address such a non-issue since it never happened.


The alchol refrences are well documented, bush does have 2 dui's , and no those arent photoshopped either. Funny that the president of the United states cant legally operate a car in his own country.
Random fact considering it has nothing to do with flipping the bird. Yes he has DUI's... did I ever say otherwise? He's has major faults... did I say otherwise? I was only referring to the fact that the link you posted is not factual.


his daughters are brats they get away with murder and have been caught at least three times using fake IDs to get into bars during his tenure
His daughters have never committed murder. Fake ID's? what college undergrad has not used fake ID's? I did. Does that mean I committed murder? I agree the president's daughters should be less tacky, but I thought this was about the President, not his unelected teenage co-eds


, and he is known to be a little raunchy (IE flipping reporters the bird).
wow, there it is again! Do you realize if it really was the bird, then TV would not even be allowed to show it on the news?


When clinton...cheated on his wife the clinton supporters were not running around saying it wasnt true and they seemed genuinly embarresed by it
Ok, now you're just being silly. Clinton supporters were in huge denial, but that has nothing to do with bush.


What gives? Do bush supporters have no shame, or do they just refuse to accept all his flaws?
I believe in facts. Not rumors. People (reporters, not Bush people) that were inthe same room say it was a thumbs-up, and a misunderstanding. But you don't believe them. Who is not accepting reality here?

I do not stand up for Bush for every flaw. But the DUI stuff was decades ago... hardly relevent now. And he fully admits to it. His daughters mistakes are also irrelevent to who he is as president.

I find it interesting, just to throw a "what gives" back atcha... that while Clinton supporters always say the Monica scandal had nothing to do with Clinton as president, they bring up personal issues like the bush twins or imaginary fingers which are also irrelevent. It seems you'd rather go on believing the President flipped somebody off, even when the facts state otherwise.

You can't have it both ways.

avet
August 30th, 2005, 08:01 PM
You can't have it both ways.

Seems your "administration" can ?

Like "wide open borders"
----&----
"security"

Like government jobs that pay "extremely well" w\all the perks, bennies, health ins, retirements, guaranteed raises, etc (no accountability to ANYONE - we "know" of)
---&----
allowing illegals working for min\below min wage. PERIOD! (ANY bennies paid for by the ...TAXPAYERS !)

avet
August 30th, 2005, 08:18 PM
Almost forgot...

"Sacrifice" for the cause - even the ultimate..."lives"

----while-----

they sacrifice "nothing" & make huge, HUGE $$$$$$$$$$

therising
August 30th, 2005, 08:28 PM
First of all - are any of these cursing references legit?

Second of all...it kinds makes me like him! He's human, after all. He has passion.

It almost makes me like the mother****er! :D

steven
August 31st, 2005, 02:18 AM
well 300 you must be watching different news then I am. I saw his bird flipping incident on tv and if thats your idea of a thumbs up.............. hope you never go to a bills game.

His daughters just didnt get caught with fake ID they threatened the proprietor of the club they where going in with closure and mentioned there father was pres. Thats a little over the top as far as I am concerned but maybe you where a bit bolder in your younger days than I.

I see people flipping the bird all the time on tv the 50's are over.

The clinton supporters dont bring up the twins or the dui's, I do, and I voted for clinton the first time but not the second so I dont think that makes me a hard core clinton supporter.

You say the dui stuff happened decades ago and is "hardly relevent now" I have a feeling when clinton was running you where one of those that was quick to call him a draft dodger. Guess what? That happened a long time ago and was hardly relevent when he ran for president.

Either way I could care less. The funny thing is it doesnt matter to me wether he did it or not. I just posted something I thought would be of interest to others. Same as the article I posted about the chick outside his ranch and the same as the positive jobs report.

Balance is good.

steven
August 31st, 2005, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by therising
l...it kinds makes me like him! He's human, after all. He has passion.

It almost makes me like the mother****er! :D

I was thinking the same thing, rumour has it nixion was a big curser so was FDR (he was also a heavy drinker).

300miles
August 31st, 2005, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by steven
Balance is good.
only when it's true.

;)

lcm
August 31st, 2005, 02:53 AM
Bush’s behavior, according to prominent Washington psychiatrist, Dr. Justin Frank, author of “Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President,” is all too typical of an alcohol-abusing bully who is ruled by fear.

To see that fear emerges, Dr. Frank says, all one has to do is confront the President. “To actually directly confront him in a clear way, to bring him out, so you would really see the bully, and you would also see the fear,” he says.

Dr. Frank, in his book, speculates that Bush, an alcoholic who brags that he gave up booze without help from groups like Alcoholics Anonymous, may be drinking again.


I just love this part of the article....cause I just think that this guy makes the mental health profession, well, look rather mental.

I could imagine nearly imagine 10+ reasons for someone to sware or give an obscene gesture....and I can imagine probably 10x the mental health professionals coming up with some sort of diagnosis, explanation or pathology.

It reminds me of the saying in the consulting industry....tell us what you want...and we will make the numbers and the technology fit it.

It reminds me of the saying in the management profession ... opinions are like ass holes....everyone has them (whether their an expert or lay).

Its one thing to make an observation....its another thing to stretch an observation of an incident or a series of incidents into a diagnosis.

steven
August 31st, 2005, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by lcm
I just love this part of the article....cause I just think that this guy makes the mental health profession, well, look rather mental.

I could imagine nearly imagine 10+ reasons for someone to sware or give an obscene gesture....and I can imagine probably 10x the mental health professionals coming up with some sort of diagnosis, explanation or pathology.


Ever see that dr phill show? I saw it once and honestly believe some of these people that hand out "mental" advice to people they only know for 15 minutes should be locked up. I think its very dangerous.

IsOurGov.Dum
August 31st, 2005, 10:32 PM
W. gave a one finger victory salute, not the finger. :D

link (http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2654327?ifilmp=99)

Anywho, he was then Governor. He's alowed to.

lcm
August 31st, 2005, 10:48 PM
Oh come on really, this is the your with us or against us President

This is the president who came up with the Axis of Evil (bad copy of Reagan)

This is the president who came up with the Patriot Act

This is the president who invaded 2 countries

This is the president who has open contempt for the United Nations, pretty much loves pulling the strings of the most powerful nation in the world and loves to go it alone (except in wartime) and tell the world we are the most powerful...so we will tell you and you will follow.

Yes, it makes him human. Yes, it seems totally within his character. Yes, other presidents (democratic and republican) have character issues too.

Why bother disputing it? I will say this about the difference between democrats and republicans. Democrats seem to have character flaws in the presidency that relate to their personal lives (infidelity as an example) while republicans tend to have character flaws relating to abuses of power (Iran Contra as an example). One doesnt involve fidelity with the public....the other does.

Which is why I love to trash democrats and liberals, because they should be a successful opposition party and a successful majority party but their so controlled by their major power blocks that they cant come up with a platform for the average american that isnt a feminist or a union member.