Whatever Happened To 9/11?

[blockclubof1]

Seems as though our new President Obama has swept 9/11 under the rug. Wasn't 9/11 the defining moment in our current situation with the war and economy?

I wanted to believe my President and the official story of what happened that day, but the more I learn the less I believe it's true.

Doesn't 9/11 matter anymore? Has it become irrelevant? Not a peep from Obama.

What do you think?

[Dumbfounded]

Unlike the last adminstration, Obama is not going to use 9/11 as an excuse for introducing and forcing through the legislation which led us to the toilet we're all in now.

Pres. Obama does not strike as a the type of person who would resort to "fear talk" as the neocons and the media have done and continue to do.

Not to say Obama won't turn into a major demon down the road,
but
as far as insulting the American people's intelligence (what's LEFT of it)
with a "remember the Alamo" or "9/11" mantra I can't picture Obama resorting to such pettiness.


Ask the last bunch of criminals who ruined this nation,
"What the HELL happened to the proposed 9/11 memorials at Ground Zero? You scummy clowns could care less about those who were murdered on that day just so you could launch a war-for-profit on false pretenses, ect"

RE:9/11, we SHOULD be concentrating on the thousands of voluteers, the firemen, police, the civllians who cleaned up at Ground Zero and now have terminal and/or crippling diseases, mainly respiratory with little or NO aid given to THESE heroes, thank you also Rudy Guilliani for telling OASHA (sp) to get the hell out of there while you had some cronies loot vaults at the WTC for you.

9/11 truth movements? Ain't gone anywhere yet and never will.
Just like the Warren Commission and the rest of the "crazy conspiracies,"
justice will and never shall be served to those who make (made) the laws under which they could be tried, convicted and sentenced.


God FORBID there's another attack on U.S. soil (with the hundreds-of-billions spent to "protect" and SPY on us)-Can't see Obama using the incident to push is in the wrong direction(S) as GWB did.

[Enough]

No enemy is going to attack us now, we are more partisan than at any time in years.

They are watching us destruct from within, they don't want to give us a reason to unite!

[300miles]

God FORBID there's another attack on U.S. soil (with the hundreds-of-billions spent to "protect" and SPY on us)-Can't see Obama using the incident to push is in the wrong direction(S) as GWB did.
And yet there have no new attacks on the US since then. I wonder how the Obamatrons will spin the news if we do get attacked under his watch. There must be some way to blame that on Bush too.

:rolleyes:

[Anotherview]

Obama hasn't been in office 3 weeks so I'll say it again, give him a chance.

As far as 9/11, George W. had 7 years to put a program into effect for the volunteers and workers that were hurt and continue to suffer. Of course let's not forget, this happened in the same time period that George W., our telecommuter president, spent 265 days in his Texas Ranch. "Texas is my home folks."

George W. is the same fella that visited Kartina 4 long days after the disaster. The compassion on behalf of this fine fella is just overwhelming.

Bush supporters ought to kiss the ground Obama walks on. He's not bringing forth any criminal charges against Bush. Obama, the gentleman that he is, believes that we should just learn from our (meaning George W's) mistakes

[Save Us]

Seems as though our new President Obama has swept 9/11 under the rug. Wasn't 9/11 the defining moment in our current situation with the war and economy?

I wanted to believe my President and the official story of what happened that day, but the more I learn the less I believe it's true.

Doesn't 9/11 matter anymore? Has it become irrelevant? Not a peep from Obama.

What do you think?


Do you think it a coincidence that there has been no attacks? Many liberals either don't know or forget there is a very real war going on.

I assure you it is no coincidence, everyone wants peace until you remember there are people committed to destroying us and our way of life.

Kinda like throwing a peace prints sign at a thug with a knife.

It's all Kumbaya now.

[dgrzeb]

Do you think it a coincidence that there has been no attacks? Many liberals either don't know or forget there is a very real war going on.

I assure you it is no coincidence, everyone wants peace until you remember there are people committed to destroying us and our way of life.

Kinda like throwing a peace prints sign at a thug with a knife.

It's all Kumbaya now.

good post save us , I agree 100%.............

[Dumbfounded]

And yet there have no new attacks on the US since then. I wonder how the Obamatrons will spin the news if we do get attacked under his watch. There must be some way to blame that on Bush too.

:rolleyes:

We've been attacked by our OWN government as in the assault on our civil liberties and partisan S aside, go to Www.Projectcensored.Com and just do SOME reading;All fact based, not trying to "bash Bush" or assign blame.
All REAL journalistic truth. The kind of news that makes you THINK which is now a "no no" as its been pounded into our thick skulls over and over that "they want to steal our freedom," "they're jealous of our way of life," "oceans no longer protects us," " to have peace we must first have war"

All of you who believe yourselves to be strong-minded independent thinkers that quote talking point after talking point are contradicting yourselves and at this point, it is not a matter of "who's right and who's wrong" (it never WAS).

9/11 was WORSE than a modern-day "Pearl Harbor" because it was THAT close-THAT personal and through instantaneous satellite transmission, we saw and shuddered at horrors that frankly are unimaginable for almost all of us.

Is Obama just another puppet? Maybe. Have to give him a chance.
Just remember that from Mussolini to Stalin to Hitler to Bush all the fascist dictators who used false flag incident;A Golf Of Tonkin or Reichstag scenario or 9/11 incident as an EXCUSE to pass laws that hurt the citizens more than the faceless enemies;Those of you who can not see how Americans have suffered more than the enemy are living in a dreamworld whose address I'd love to visit because things are getting uglier by the day here in the "greatest country in the world."

9/11 MUST be remembered, victims dead and living MUST be honored AND cared for (those famalies of victims without means of support, rescue/cleanup Ground Zero workers not receiving treatment as they were "supposed to."
And most insulting in the YEARS following 9/11 there has been NO serious memorial built at
Ground Zero, something promised yet never delivered like so many "patriotic" lies we were given.

Christ. Wouldn't take much (relative) to build a huge, beautiful tribute to the victims and heroes of 9/11;Something that would remind the world that we HAVE NOT forgotten instead of VERBALLY using 9/11 as an excuse to do anything and everything to achieve one's financial, territorial and control goals and make no mistake,
the last administration DID "cut and run" as in grabbing as much money as possible, awarding as many bloated contracts as possible while undegoing record deregulation.

But we have to MOVE ON from 9/11 to the future.
That is, unless some of you WANT to hear President Obama repeating the same crap as Bush for the next four to eight years (which is not in his character DUH).

[dgrzeb]

Just remember that from Mussolini to Stalin to Hitler to Bush all the fascist dictators <----------------please , that's so incredulous ridiculous it's hard to even comment on...............I remember ALL of the posters on THIS VERY message board telling us how Bush/Cheney were going to use "these mystical powers" to suspend the elections & stay in power , YEAH RIGHT !! You know who's in power ? It's the same people who have been in power for decades , they're ALL the same , party affiliation means nothing , it's MONEY & aristocrats that run this dictatorship..............

[Dumbfounded]

Just remember that from Mussolini to Stalin to Hitler to Bush all the fascist dictators <----------------please , that's so incredulous ridiculous it's hard to even comment on...............I remember ALL of the posters on THIS VERY message board telling us how Bush/Cheney were going to use "these mystical powers" to suspend the elections & stay in power , YEAH RIGHT !! You know who's in power ? It's the same people who have been in power for decades , they're ALL the same , party affiliation means nothing , it's MONEY & aristocrats that run this dictatorship..............

What the hell are you talking about?
From the Patriot Act to the suspension of Posse Commitatus(SP), the creation of The Department Of Homeland Security, FEMA, Blackwater's SS-like status to the 100% legal declaration of martial law (in a vaguely-defined crisis) and other oppressive S hanging over our heads for nearly 8 years-ALL were legally passed by Congress and singed into law by Bush Jr.
People had a very real/legit reason to be worried or afraid of "what if?"

Bush & Cheney using "mystical powers?"
Stop listening to Glenn Beck, O' Reilly, Hannity and the rest of your dumb AND crazy idols;The BAD kind of crazy, the dangerous kind of crazy that intelligent people believe after hearing their lies often enough.

"If you hear a lie enough times, it becomes the truth."


MY computer being monitored? Naw! I trust the NSA! Our government loves us!!

[yokes]

What the hell are you talking about?
From the Patriot Act to the suspension of Posse Commitatus(SP), the creation of The Department Of Homeland Security, FEMA, Blackwater's SS-like status to the 100% legal declaration of martial law (in a vaguely-defined crisis) and other oppressive S hanging over our heads for nearly 8 years-ALL were legally passed by Congress and singed into law by Bush Jr.
People had a very real/legit reason to be worried or afraid of "what if?"

Using laws that have been on the books since the 30's or so thats never been invoked even during times of war.

Yeah very real legit reason to worry......So did you let out a big sigh of releif when afterall thy werent invoked again? Do you think President Obama will use the same laws to stay in power or is it only for certain presidents?

[Bringthetruth]

Seems as though our new President Obama has swept 9/11 under the rug. Wasn't 9/11 the defining moment in our current situation with the war and economy?

I wanted to believe my President and the official story of what happened that day, but the more I learn the less I believe it's true.

Doesn't 9/11 matter anymore? Has it become irrelevant? Not a peep from Obama.

What do you think?

Remember 9/11 planes were never identified as commercial Jet Airliners.

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If I get into a car accident, the insurance company will not pay a single penny until someone from the insurance company (an appraiser) or someone from the shop (under oath) verifies the VIN number from the vehicle...the vehicle identification number. Regardless of whether 100 Billion people witnessed the car crashing, they pay nothing until the VIN is verified. Regardless of whether 100 Billion photos and 100 Billion videos were taken of the car crashing....an auto insurance company will not pay one single penny until it physically verifies the VIN number on the vehicle itself. And that's for a $5,000 car. Now fast forward to the multi-million dollar planes of 911.......

The airline insurance companies will pay nothing until they verify the Serial ID numbers on the planes themselves....just like a car. A standard 757 has over 3 million verifiable ID parts. On 911...that’s almost 12 million parts that could be verified to pay a claim. Though get this...not one single penny has been paid by airline insurance companies for any of the 4 planes lost on 911. Why? Despite Billions of witnesses, billions of photos, and billions of videos and TV viewers.....the airline insurance companies only pay by verifiable wreckage. Just like a car. TO THIS DAY....NOT ONE SINGLE PIECE OF AIRLINER DEBRIS FROM ANY OF THE 4 PLANES FROM ANY OF THE 4 LOCATIONS ON 911 HAS EVER BEEN VERIFIED IN ANY WAY. Not one single piece.

Once you come to terms with the fact that there were no commercial planes on 911...you will begin to understand the true crimes of the US political regimes.

[Save Us]

:(We've been attacked by our OWN government as in the assault on our civil liberties and partisan S aside, go to Www.Projectcensored.Com and just do SOME reading;All fact based, not trying to "bash Bush" or assign blame.
All REAL journalistic truth. The kind of news that makes you THINK which is now a "no no" as its been pounded into our thick skulls over and over that "they want to steal our freedom," "they're jealous of our way of life," "oceans no longer protects us," " to have peace we must first have war"

All of you who believe yourselves to be strong-minded independent thinkers that quote talking point after talking point are contradicting yourselves and at this point, it is not a matter of "who's right and who's wrong" (it never WAS).

9/11 was WORSE than a modern-day "Pearl Harbor" because it was THAT close-THAT personal and through instantaneous satellite transmission, we saw and shuddered at horrors that frankly are unimaginable for almost all of us.

Is Obama just another puppet? Maybe. Have to give him a chance.
Just remember that from Mussolini to Stalin to Hitler to Bush all the fascist dictators who used false flag incident;A Golf Of Tonkin or Reichstag scenario or 9/11 incident as an EXCUSE to pass laws that hurt the citizens more than the faceless enemies;Those of you who can not see how Americans have suffered more than the enemy are living in a dreamworld whose address I'd love to visit because things are getting uglier by the day here in the "greatest country in the world."

9/11 MUST be remembered, victims dead and living MUST be honored AND cared for (those famalies of victims without means of support, rescue/cleanup Ground Zero workers not receiving treatment as they were "supposed to."
And most insulting in the YEARS following 9/11 there has been NO serious memorial built at
Ground Zero, something promised yet never delivered like so many "patriotic" lies we were given.

Christ. Wouldn't take much (relative) to build a huge, beautiful tribute to the victims and heroes of 9/11;Something that would remind the world that we HAVE NOT forgotten instead of VERBALLY using 9/11 as an excuse to do anything and everything to achieve one's financial, territorial and control goals and make no mistake,
the last administration DID "cut and run" as in grabbing as much money as possible, awarding as many bloated contracts as possible while undegoing record deregulation.

But we have to MOVE ON from 9/11 to the future.
That is, unless some of you WANT to hear President Obama repeating the same crap as Bush for the next four to eight years (which is not in his character DUH).

and yet here we are with the largest government expansion in history.

We have too much government. Where do you draw this line?
Personally I think we have too much government all the way around.
Reagan believe it or not was a very fiscal conservative who recognized that.

He believed in self reliance,,, God how I wish he was president again

[BuffaloIce]

Move on, but don't forget.

[dgrzeb]

What the hell are you talking about?
From the Patriot Act to the suspension of Posse Commitatus(SP), the creation of The Department Of Homeland Security, FEMA, Blackwater's SS-like status to the 100% legal declaration of martial law (in a vaguely-defined crisis) and other oppressive S hanging over our heads for nearly 8 years-ALL were legally passed by Congress and singed into law by Bush Jr.
People had a very real/legit reason to be worried or afraid of "what if?"

Bush & Cheney using "mystical powers?"
Stop listening to Glenn Beck, O' Reilly, Hannity and the rest of your dumb AND crazy idols;The BAD kind of crazy, the dangerous kind of crazy that intelligent people believe after hearing their lies often enough.

"If you hear a lie enough times, it becomes the truth."


MY computer being monitored? Naw! I trust the NSA! Our government loves us!!

DF , I reason using my own mind , not some far left wing drivel................try it sometime...............Bush is out of office , he's not a dictator , he & Cheney did not suspend elections as MANY on this VERY message board claimed they would................But now Obama is softening his far left stance , is he going to be our messiah/dictator , or is that only reserved for the republican party ?

[Bringthetruth]

DF , I reason using my own mind , not some far left wing drivel................try it sometime...............Bush is out of office , he's not a dictator , he & Cheney did not suspend elections as MANY on this VERY message board claimed they would................But now Obama is softening his far left stance , is he going to be our messiah/dictator , or is that only reserved for the republican party ?

You don't believe in plan B do you ?

Crooked people always have backup plans when the other has been exposed.

[Bringthetruth]

And yet there have no new attacks on the US since then. I wonder how the Obamatrons will spin the news if we do get attacked under his watch. There must be some way to blame that on Bush too.

:rolleyes:


On September 29, 2001 – in a vital story that has gone unnoticed by the major media – the San Francisco Chronicle reported, <I>“Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11, terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and market data.


The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors – whose identities and nationalities have not been made public – had advance knowledge of the strikes.” They don’t dare show up now. The suspension of trading for four days after the attacks made it impossible to cash-out quickly and claim the prize before investigators started looking.

You wanna find out who was behind 911 follow the money trail.

Hard to believe no FBI followed up on the trading that took place the days before 911, unless it was a inside trade.

[mikenold]

Remember 9/11 planes were never identified as commercial Jet Airliners.

Once you come to terms with the fact that there were no commercial planes on 911...you will begin to understand the true crimes of the US political regimes.

Do you really still believe this conspiracy drivel?

:rolleyes: The terrorists are a fantasy, a missile hit the pentagon, there is no such thing as Jihad, the government caused 9/11 to start a war, all Muslims are peaceful, tax breaks never help the economy, drivel, drivel, drivel. :rolleyes:

More Koolaid!

[dgrzeb]

Do you really still believe this conspiracy drivel?

:rolleyes: The terrorists are a fantasy, a missile hit the pentagon, there is no such thing as Jihad, the government caused 9/11 to start a war, all Muslims are peaceful, tax breaks never help the economy, drivel, drivel, drivel. :rolleyes:

More Koolaid!

you're right Mike , order lots more Kool-Aid for the Bush conspiracy theory drinkers , the ones who still believe he's pushing the buttons (oh , Cheney also...) , the show is in Obama's hands now , will he suspend elections from now on & become the anti-christ ?

[mikenold]

you're right Mike , order lots more Kool-Aid for the Bush conspiracy theory drinkers , the ones who still believe he's pushing the buttons (oh , Cheney also...) , the show is in Obama's hands now , will he suspend elections from now on & become the anti-christ ?

Hopefully, he only enjoys two years of getting everything he wants. Although, even his buddies will turn on him if they see that they will not win their next election because of what he led them to do.
The down side is that he can actually cause a bit of damage in two years. Time will tell.
And, then again, as I have written in another thread (If Jesus was walking the earth today) it will be a wondrous day when the Lord descends from the clouds with a trump as the saints meet him in midair. ;)

[dgrzeb]

hopefully, he only enjoys two years of getting everything he wants. Although, even his buddies will turn on him if they see that they will not win their next election because of what he led them to do.
The down side is that he can actually cause a bit of damage in two years. Time will tell.
And, then again, as i have written in another thread (if jesus was walking the earth today) it will be a wondrous day when the lord descends from the clouds with a trump as the saints meet him in midair. ;)

:)amen !!:)

[Bringthetruth]

Do you really still believe this conspiracy drivel?

:rolleyes: The terrorists are a fantasy, a missile hit the pentagon, there is no such thing as Jihad, the government caused 9/11 to start a war, all Muslims are peaceful, tax breaks never help the economy, drivel, drivel, drivel. :rolleyes:

More Koolaid!

Bush has never pushed a button, bush never had the brains to mastermind this diabolical conspiracy.

He was a puupet who allowed it to happen on his watch as the leader of the free world.

We wanted to make war with Japan when the president allowed the japense to bomb pearl harbor knowing they were on their way.

We intercepted the messages and knew they were coming, I can't believe some of you still don't know that part of american history. WOW

aLL Muslims aren't peaceful, but all muslims aren't terrorist or Jihadest.

Our govt and military had to allow those things to happen. The united states is the most guarded country in the nation.

If you smart guys think terrorist really did the damage on 911, why then has our borders been open for illegals to continue to come in 24/7 ?

Americans are so gulliable it ain't funny :mad:

Bush knew it was going to happen and he knew foolish americans would get behind him want blood even if it meant going after a leader (saddam) who had nothing to do with 911.

[Bringthetruth]

you're right Mike , order lots more Kool-Aid for the Bush conspiracy theory drinkers , the ones who still believe he's pushing the buttons (oh , Cheney also...) , the show is in Obama's hands now , will he suspend elections from now on & become the anti-christ ?

Many have been decieved that guys hiding in the mountains masterminded a plot like 911 and outsmarted the most intelligent military in the world.

ROFL @ YOU BOTH

http://www.unknownnews.net/0331-1.html

Too many coincedenses that day to be luck

[300miles]

There's too much ignorance in these posts for me to even bother with a real comment.
Bring on the conspiracy nutjobs. This thread is dead.

[FMD]

not attacks on the US since 01?

USS Cole was an act of war. If we, sent a canoe to a Chinese destroyer, and blew it up in an attempt to sink a chinese navy vessel, China would cash in on our debt and bankrupt the USA with in minutes.

Then declare war and attempt to invade us.

The anthrax attacks on political figures and public announcers was not a terrorist attack? what do you call it? a dirty joke?

The in your face violation of constitutional rights of thousands of americans over Katrina, was not an attack?

wake up people.

oh, and this is what REALLY surprises me.... no one in this country really 'trusts' our govt, yet they trust the 911 report even though over half of it was classified.... uh huh.

[Bringthetruth]

Yes FMD see how hypocritcal people think. The problem is they DON'T THINK !

[yokes]

not attacks on the US since 01?

USS Cole was an act of war. If we, sent a canoe to a Chinese destroyer, and blew it up in an attempt to sink a chinese navy vessel, China would cash in on our debt and bankrupt the USA with in minutes.

Just to clarify the Cole attack was 12 October 2000